5000 fail Maths......

SRFC90

will be tomorrows headlines on Irish papers....

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

King Ludvig

That means the other 60,000 of us pass. Yay!!

MattD

How many people actually do Honours Maths?

in general?

Plus, they cant really give a headline like that. Cuz the amount of fails is usually the same every year, roundabouts. Results have got to to fit into that Bell curve deeley.

So, who cares if 5000 fail this year. It was the same last year, and will probably be the same next year :P

Cokehead Mother

MattD wrote: »

How many people actually do Honours Maths?

in general?

8388 last year. It's generally under 20% of the total afaik.

MattD

Bollocks... Thats a lot of people i have to do better than to get an honour... Hmmmmm

lovechem

honours or pass?

maths blowsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

me AWAY

nah.

PurpleFistMixer

Tomorrow's headline will probably be something like, "Minister Nobody Knows Present at Opening of New Bakery in Place That Doesn't Exist."

No need to be sensationalist about it.

spillit67

Woah i think i failed, i really do. I did honours but didnt really need it for points so discounted it-P1 was a disaster for me. I'm so bloody nervous, and worse still i shouldnt be in this stupid bloody mess.

MIM-104

If i fail accounting Thursdays headline will be

Christy Tyrell beaten to death with his own accounting book

blue-army

MIM-104 wrote: »

If i fail accounting Thursdays headline will be

Christy Tyrell beaten to death with his own accounting book

same here.........Accounting is the only subject I'm worrying about tbh..

spillit67

blue-army wrote: »

same here.........Accounting is the only subject I'm worrying about tbh..

Ye but at least if you fail accounting you can still go to college.

blue-army

spillit67 wrote: »

Ye but at least if you fail accounting you can still go to college.

It would be a hugh setback points-wise though.....I'll probably repeat if I fail. I did 7 subjects, 3 at Ordinary Level (one of which I wasnt relying on for points..Tech Drawing)...so it wouldn't be good..:(

blue-army

SRFC90 wrote: »

will be tomorrows headlines on Irish papers....

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Well the Irish Times paper for Today (Wednesday) has been published online....Nothing at all on it about the Leaving Cert results! I was expecting a few stats at least..

spillit67

blue-army wrote: »

It would be a hugh setback points-wise though.....I'll probably repeat if I fail. I did 7 subjects, 3 at Ordinary Level (one of which I wasnt relying on for points..Tech Drawing)...so it wouldn't be good..:(

Ye i guess but you still would have far more options for college than the person who fails maths.

EI787

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/0813/1218477455135.html

PurpleFistMixer

27% got an A in Applied Maths? But that paper wasn't even nice...

blue-army

can't believe nothing has been said about Accounting in that article....It was an absolutley awful paper and I'd expect the fail rate to be quite high.

Cokehead Mother

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

27% got an A in Applied Maths? But that paper wasn't even nice...

Thought it was nicer than last year anyway, and it was 29% then.

lovechem

omggggggggggggg :eek: im act scared now

PurpleFistMixer

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

Thought it was nicer than last year anyway, and it was 29% then.

I thought 2007 was grand. I was just burnt out by the time app maths came around this year, I think. Ugh. Don't want to tell my teacher. He spent the whole 2 years thinking I was some kind of genius, and now... bleh. Find out tomorrow anyway.

andrew

If many fail than that means the paper was difficult. Which means that they'll mark it easier. Woo Hoo! Also, **** yeah lots of chem A's!

PurpleFistMixer

If they marked it easier, why did so many fail? : p

rainbow kirby

I'm just really hoping that my little cousin got a decent grade, because he needs it to get into his college course...

/me crosses fingers

IMYOURSWEET666

i really hope i didnt fail maths cause i really need it to get into college.
i did o.l maths... did anyone else find it hard or was it just me??


in the irish times it said music and languages were good!!!! i hope i did well in french and music

Yuugib

I had a horrible night mare today... it felt so real... I went to get my results and they were in two envelopes for some reason..
I've got 45% in chemistry 0_o it was so devistating...

KeyLimePie

half my math's class is in that figure guaranteed !

and Yuugib...my nightmares are worse, they usually go with me finding out i fail a subject but my friend(enemy) cathal gets 550........!:)

Yuugib

I can imagine how you feel Glad I'm not alone

Gone West

Don't worry about it.
It's only bits of graphite on thin sheets of carbon.
Life goes on, and theres much cooler stuff to do and see than passing maths.

irish_boy90

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

Don't worry about it.
It's only bits of graphite on thin sheets of carbon.
Life goes on, and theres much cooler stuff to do and see than passing maths.

like going to collage?
I kinda need to pass maths.

O well another 40 min before i know :eek:

LadyMayBelle

The kid brother just rang to say he passed maths and I'm delighted. Best of luck to all of ye getting results.

fated2pretend

Anyone see that our esteemed Minister for Education was urging those who did well in Maths and Science subjects to choose Maths and Science courses? Someone should probably tell him that that decision would have to have been made weeks ago ... :rolleyes:

TransititionMan

Poor diluded young sole...
Well he should learn for next year,
If hes here next year... >=]

shoegirl

Folks, you get NOTHING extra for doing well in higher level Maths, even in courses where its supposed to be SOOOO important, no company goes out looking for people with good Maths skills (Irish Permanent used to in the 1980s, I doubt they do now), and there is no perceivable benefit to anybody beyond the few extra bonus points that might possibly exist in a few courses. Until somebody does actually start offering real benefits that last for more than the CAO points process, and significantly later into life, then there will be no incentive for people to push harder. Students, quite realistically, do the lowest level course they can and concentrate on other courses.

Mind you if anybody does want to start offering more for a good Maths result, I did get an A in the higher level course in 1990, that is of course, if you can see past the fact that I have a Music degree which is tantamount in Ireland to having the bubonic plague :eek:

Students are far more foresighted than we give them credit for, and I suspect a large percentage of those who failed Maths will have failed other subjects also - so best to treat as part of a bigger problem of overall poor achievement than simply isolating one subject.

raah!

hee hee, right as i was getting a lift to my results there was a radio show on which the guy said "already 5000 have failed maths". Also saw a wet dog and wondered why kind of ill omen this bared for my leaving cert. But it was also white, with a kind of happy expression on his/her face...didn't know what to make of that.

Yup.

rgt320q

Got an A2 in ordinary level. Quite happy with that.

blue-army

B1 in ordinary level for me.....Happy with that!

andrew

raah! wrote: »

hee hee, right as i was getting a lift to my results there was a radio show on which the guy said "already 5000 have failed maths". Also saw a wet dog and wondered why kind of ill omen this beard for my leaving cert. But it was also white, with a kind of happy expression on his/her face...didn't know what to make of that.

Yup.

Are wet dogs bad omens?

TransititionMan

Apparently, but their effect is negated if it is white and smiling... Possibly.
I think the person who made up these omens was very sad, possibly racist and more than likely had no life whatsoever... Possibly.
:rolleyes:

eoin2nc

yup A in HL. Nice one!!!

4Xcut

shoegirl wrote: »

Folks, you get NOTHING extra for doing well in higher level Maths, even in courses where its supposed to be SOOOO important, no company goes out looking for people with good Maths skills (Irish Permanent used to in the 1980s, I doubt they do now), and there is no perceivable benefit to anybody beyond the few extra bonus points that might possibly exist in a few courses. Until somebody does actually start offering real benefits that last for more than the CAO points process, and significantly later into life, then there will be no incentive for people to push harder. Students, quite realistically, do the lowest level course they can and concentrate on other courses.

Mind you if anybody does want to start offering more for a good Maths result, I did get an A in the higher level course in 1990, that is of course, if you can see past the fact that I have a Music degree which is tantamount in Ireland to having the bubonic plague :eek:

Students are far more foresighted than we give them credit for, and I suspect a large percentage of those who failed Maths will have failed other subjects also - so best to treat as part of a bigger problem of overall poor achievement than simply isolating one subject.

Maths may be irrelavent to someone doing a music degree but it is very relevant in a lot of courses/careers. You can forget about anything in science without a decent level of maths, economics and business courses also require the student to have a reasonable understanding of maths, not to mention that with a maths degree you are extemely employable.

However, if you want to continue your logic, Languages are usless if you don't want to live in a non-english speaking country, histiry is useless if you don't care about it, english is useless if you want to do engineering, etc.

Maths is only useless if you do not need it. Granted that school level maths is very basic and abstract compared to some of the stuff out there but it gives a foundation or 3rd level maths which cna bear heavily on someone's future depending on career choice.

Oh, and I would hire someone with a maths degree before someone with a music degree for pretty much most jobs all other things being equal. There are more applicable skills with maths.

EmmetF

shoegirl wrote: »

Folks, you get NOTHING extra for doing well in higher level Maths, even in courses where its supposed to be SOOOO important, no company goes out looking for people with good Maths skills (Irish Permanent used to in the 1980s, I doubt they do now), and there is no perceivable benefit to anybody beyond the few extra bonus points that might possibly exist in a few courses. Until somebody does actually start offering real benefits that last for more than the CAO points process, and significantly later into life, then there will be no incentive for people to push harder. Students, quite realistically, do the lowest level course they can and concentrate on other courses.

Mind you if anybody does want to start offering more for a good Maths result, I did get an A in the higher level course in 1990, that is of course, if you can see past the fact that I have a Music degree which is tantamount in Ireland to having the bubonic plague :eek:

Students are far more foresighted than we give them credit for, and I suspect a large percentage of those who failed Maths will have failed other subjects also - so best to treat as part of a bigger problem of overall poor achievement than simply isolating one subject.

University of Limerick offer bonus points for HL Maths, my B2 is worth 105 points :P
Suck on those apples.

PrivateEye

I got a C, in OL :rolleyes:

I was never counting Maths. I didbn't study for it, knowing it was subject no.7. Delighted with the results, not failing maths was merely the cherry on the cake!

raah!

andrew wrote: »

Are wet dogs bad omens?

Not for me they're not :pac:.

eyresquare

i got an E in OL maths

i don't know what to do really

i did well enough in everything else

shoegirl

EmmetF wrote: »

University of Limerick offer bonus points for HL Maths, my B2 is worth 105 points :P
Suck on those apples.

Which, if you don't otherwise get the points, will count for what exactly in 6 months time?

What if UL isn't your chosen educational institution?
What, indeed, if you feel college is not for you?

What use then is your HC Maths?
I am just pointing out that having an A in higher level Maths never did an iota for me, not a single thing. 18 years later, no benefit ever accured from it. In an environment such as this, why should it matter? Lots of people fail other subjects, yet not so much fuss.

What I am arguing about is the rarified position of one subject, much of which most people will never use again.

Interestingly enough it was worsened in my day by the fact that the only potentially useful bit (Statistics) was optional (which as most of you will know "teacher chooses").

shoegirl

4Xcut wrote: »

Maths may be irrelavent to someone doing a music degree but it is very relevant in a lot of courses/careers. You can forget about anything in science without a decent level of maths, economics and business courses also require the student to have a reasonable understanding of maths, not to mention that with a maths degree you are extemely employable.

However, if you want to continue your logic, Languages are usless if you don't want to live in a non-english speaking country, histiry is useless if you don't care about it, english is useless if you want to do engineering, etc.

Maths is only useless if you do not need it. Granted that school level maths is very basic and abstract compared to some of the stuff out there but it gives a foundation or 3rd level maths which cna bear heavily on someone's future depending on career choice.

Oh, and I would hire someone with a maths degree before someone with a music degree for pretty much most jobs all other things being equal. There are more applicable skills with maths.

Well actually, the vast majority of degrees don't actually qualify you to do anything. Many of the skills taught in the maths curriculum don't go on to ever be used again.

Nice to see the prejudice against the Music degree is alive and well. Actually there are some very good non-vocational degrees out there, and I have had occasion to have working for me very talented employees with irrelevant or no qualifications, who way outshone people who had supposedly relevant ones.

I wouldn't like to name and shame institutions but some of what is taught in some 3rd level degrees, despite having the right course title, is not worth any more than Ethnomusicology or Shenkerian analysis. I've come across folks with Biology degrees with programming skills and an approach to project work that would put people who actually studied such subjects to shame.

All I am saying is........we don't reward those who do very well in Maths.....and we don't really punish those who do fail, many of whom have otherwise done quite well, as much as the media might lead you to believe.

blue-army

eyresquare wrote: »

i got an E in OL maths

i don't know what to do really

i did well enough in everything else

Appeal your result....whats there to lose?

SRFC90

blue-army wrote: »

Appeal your result....whats there to lose?

Exactly, appeal!

eyresquare

ya i am going to do that,thanks


one more question...could anyone tell me the marks you get for OL subjects
because it does not say on the examinations website and i would like to know to be sure.thanks again

Cateym

Hons maths is a complete waste of time unless you are naturally talented in that way. Every year I see friends and relations slogging away at HL maths to get what a C3/D1 when they DON'T need it for points or entry requirements.

Case in point. My sis in law might miss her course by a handful of points because she insisted on doing HL maths when her time would have been far far better employed putting in the extra time HL maths swallowed up to her other subjects. She would have definitely gotten higher grades in her other subjects and be home and dry right now instead of quite a high probability that she may not get in.

SRFC90

eyresquare wrote: »

ya i am going to do that,thanks


one more question...could anyone tell me the marks you get for OL subjects
because it does not say on the examinations website and i would like to know to be sure.thanks again

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