Dark Knight - 3rd best film of all time......

Linoge

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0111161

1. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 360,704
2. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 309,130
3. 9.1 The Dark Knight (2008) 225,161
4. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 175,499
5. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo., Il (1966)

Sweet Jesus, talk about a disgrace. How could it get so many votes? They're gonna have to remove it or the list loses all credibility IMO.

Jello

It was number 1 up until today. IMDb top 250 at the end of the day is meaningless really.

Dont be at yourself

LotR were really high up the list upon release, but thankfully common sense is slowly prevailing, and they're falling away.

IMDB rankings for newer films are always skewed.

tylerdurden94

HaHa gas too see so many people were annoyed by it that they decided to vote to get it knocked off.

johnny_ultimate

There should be a year long cooling off period on IMDB while the fanboys have a chance to cool down and the haters for the sake of it move on to hating the latest decent film. But as mentioned above, the imdb top 250 isn't really of much use.

steveone

in my own personal opinion i'd agree that it is up there in my top three movies...
the last time i left a cinema wanting to be the villain was in the strand cinema in fairview, star wars....
and here i am thirty years later.......

Sad Professor

I really liked TDK but all the hype and ridiculous praise it's been getting won't do it any favours in the long run. Fanboys are incredibly fickle. Just watch, there's going to be a massive backlash and come a few years from now everyone will deny ever really loving it.

I agree that IMDB should have a waiting period before films are eligible for the top 250.

Cokehead Mother

I think you should just stop caring about the imdb top 250.

MagicMarker

Next person who posts a TDK thread should be cast away from boards!!!!

Any list that has godfather as the second best movie of all time looses credibility with me straight away.

Linoge

MagicMarker wrote: »

Any list that has godfather as the second best movie of all time looses credibility with me straight away.

True, a bit rediculous alright. But the list overall is not too bad. I think they should have a waiting time of a few years before a film can be "entered", like Johnny was saying above.

But really, how can any self respecting movie fan give TDK 10.0, which I'm sure alot of were needed. if I was rating I would have given it 7.0.

Jesus Wept

Nonsense.

Deedsie

Well they got the number 1 movie right. Shawshank is just the perfect film.

Knightfall

TDK is a good film, maybe even a great one, if that's your bag. But a film can't be realistically considered one of the greatest of all time so close to its launch. Marketing in the film world is such to day that almost any film is hyped to being the best ever close to its launch. A moratorium is a good idea. Anyway, why does IMDB have to be the decider of all thats great?

The Chessplayer

Linoge wrote: »

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0111161

1. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 360,704
2. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 309,130
3. 9.1 The Dark Knight (2008) 225,161
4. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 175,499
5. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo., Il (1966)

Sweet Jesus, talk about a disgrace. How could it get so many votes? They're gonna have to remove it or the list loses all credibility IMO.

Have to agree with you, I thought the Dark Knight was really awful.

Dave147

The Godfather was epic. Best film of all time is Cinema Paradiso, I wouldn't have TDK in my top 10 but I thought it was still a great watch.

Parrish_Crooks

Dave147 wrote: »

Best film of all time is Cinema Paradiso, I quote]
Why is this gilm so rated? Really don't see the hype about it.

zAbbo

IMDB Fanboys

The ratings are a good indicator, personally I'd watch anything over 6.0

If you removed all the 10/10 and the 0/10 from TDK ratings, I think you'd get a truer reflection.

The guy

This happened with Wall-e a few weeks ago on imdb and that's even still at 26.

rgiller

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

LotR were really high up the list upon release, but thankfully common sense is slowly prevailing, and they're falling away.

IMDB rankings for newer films are always skewed.

What's wrong with LotR? Great films

Pepe LeFrits

Sad Professor wrote: »

Just watch, there's going to be a massive backlash

I'd say that's already happening. A quick browse of this thread would suggest that you have to be a fanboy or have no self-respect to dare to give the film 10/10.

Which I did. It's pretty rare for me to enjoy a film as much (and following repeat viewings) as I did with TDK.

Nolanger

You mean best movie as voted by teenagers?
"Superhero movie" and "best of all time" don't belong in the same sentence.
No-one will remember The Dark Knight a decade from now.

Galvasean

Nolanger wrote: »

No-one will remember The Dark Knight a decade from now.

I will.

Anywhoo, I don't see why people get so obsessed by the IMDb top 250 list. It's just an opinion poll.

Killme00

This film should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, Once upon a time in the west.

Lists such as the IMDB 250 are only populated by balllickers anyway. Instead of calling it the IMDB 250 it should be titled, "You are all the ball lickers".

:pac:

Parrish_Crooks

Killme00 wrote: »

This film should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, Once upon a time in the west.

Lists such as the IMDB 250 are only populated by balllickers anyway. Instead of calling it the IMDB 250 it should be titled, "You are all the ball lickers".

:pac:

+1. Although I prefer "Ballbags click here"

bill_ashmount

Deedsie wrote: »

Well they got the number 1 movie right. Shawshank is just the perfect film.

Except for the fact he was digging a hole in the wall for donkeys years which was never discovered....

Stabshauptmann

TDK isnt perfect, but it is one of few films Ive gone to see twice in the cinema and really is a fantastic film. Obviously emotions are running high as its so close to the launch, but it will go down in cinematic history imo.

Linoge

bill_ashmount wrote: »

Except for the fact he was digging a hole in the wall for donkeys years which was never discovered....

Come on now. In fairness, it was covered by a poster (that was never ripped down in all the cell searches and all the times that he pissed the wardens and guards off in the space of 20 years while also not having a cellmate or moving cells.)

I watched SSR just again last night. Good film, but not as spectacular as made out. Its not even in the same league as The Godfather(s), (well, maybe Godfather 3 :pac:)

ziedth

off topic maybe but for those who love the godfather......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avddxEad7u8

Back on topic i agree with galvasean who the hell cares about an opinion poll, theres 1000 others on the internet

randy lug

Shawshank is waaaaaaaay over rated, a good film but not the best ever. like how could a film that is that long set in a american prison in the 40s/50s not have 1 bit of racism and i hate the way tim robbins is just so perfect :mad::mad::mad:

CtrlSource

randy lug wrote: »

Shawshank is waaaaaaaay over rated, a good film but not the best ever. like how could a film that is that long set in a american prison in the 40s/50s not have 1 bit of racism and i hate the way tim robbins is just so perfect :mad::mad::mad:

It's one of my favourite films and i don't think it's overrated at all, they made Tim Robbin's character a little too squeaky clean. It was left to the other cast members to provide most of the drama. Also, the script had a few dud lines in it, but overall it was a superb film

robby^5

If it really and truly annoys you that The Dark Knight is in the top 3 on IMDB then you're an IMDB fanboy yourself, get over it.

Linoge

randy lug wrote: »

Shawshank is waaaaaaaay over rated, a good film but not the best ever. like how could a film that is that long set in a american prison in the 40s/50s not have 1 bit of racism and i hate the way tim robbins is just so perfect :mad::mad::mad:

Completely agree, thats down to the director and script writer though, King worte Red as an Irish man. They should have addressed the racism part at some point in the film.

robby^5 wrote: »

If it really and truly annoys you that The Dark Knight is in the top 3 on IMDB then you're an IMDB fanboy yourself, get over it.

Oh yes, it keeps me awake at night. I'm crying right now it annoys me so much. If you really and truly cannot add something of substance to a light hearted message board disccusion you should really and truly get over yourself.

Guy:Incognito

I enjoyed it more than Shawshank and I dotn care much for any of the Godfather movies.

But then, I dotn over analise movies like they are my children and give out to anyone who dares have a bad word about somethign thats on the sacred list. I just watch and enjoy movies.

irish_bob

i can think of 3 movies off the top of my head i perfer than the dark knight

pulp fiction
die hard
once upon a time in america

Red Sleeping Beauty

Linoge wrote: »

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?tt0111161

1. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 360,704
2. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 309,130
3. 9.1 The Dark Knight (2008) 225,161
4. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 175,499
5. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo., Il (1966)

Sweet Jesus, talk about a disgrace. How could it get so many votes? They're gonna have to remove it or the list loses all credibility IMO.

Jello wrote: »

It was number 1 up until today. IMDb top 250 at the end of the day is meaningless really.

IMDB and other such internet polls don't have much credibility in the first place as far as I'm concerned.

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

There should be a year long cooling off period on IMDB while the fanboys have a chance to cool down and the haters for the sake of it move on to hating the latest decent film. But as mentioned above, the imdb top 250 isn't really of much use.

Leslie Halliwell thought that films needed years before they could be properly appreciated or critisized

Basq

Sorry.. but Shawshank is still one of my favourite films so as great as TDK was, Shawshank still trumps it in my mind.

irish_bob

basquille wrote: »

Sorry.. but Shawshank is still one of my favourite films so as great as TDK was, Shawshank still trumps it in my mind.

i enjoy watching shawshank repeatedly but i think its a very overrated film in that its classed as an all time stone cold classic all the time

Basq

irish_bob wrote: »

i enjoy watching shawshank repeatedly but i think its a very overrated film in that its classed as an all time stone cold classic all the time

But, although I may get absolutely thrased for this, neither will 'The Dark Knight'.

It's a great film... best superhero movie to date but wait til the hype dies down.

Don't get me wrong.. it'll still remain a fantastic film but I don't think 'The Dark Knight' will go down as a "stone-cold classic" by any means either.

MisterAnarchy

To be honest there is no such thing as the best film of all time just as there is no such thing as the best song of all time.
To even argue about it is futile.
There are good films and there are bad films.
But a small percentage of films are great films ,perhaps 50 films.
I'd rate The Dark Knight and The Shawshank Redemption as great films.
Shawshank probably has some of the best dialogue of any film I have ever seen.

irish_bob

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

To be honest there is no such thing as the best film of all time just as there is no such thing as the best song of all time.
To even argue about it is futile.
There are good films and there are bad films.
But a small percentage of films are great films ,perhaps 50 films.
I'd rate The Dark Knight and The Shawshank Redemption as great films.
Shawshank probably has some of the best dialogue of any film I have ever seen.

i see nothing particulary special in the dialogue in shawshank
its a very sentimental flim , most of the prisoners are thoroughly unrealistically nice guys , at least you dont also have ultra nice guards like in the green mile but there still a little bit too sweet

Parrish_Crooks

irish_bob wrote: »

i see nothing particulary special in the dialogue in shawshank
its a very sentimental flim , most of the prisoners are thoroughly unrealistically nice guys , at least you dont also have ultra nice guards like in the green mile but there still a little bit too sweet

I'd have to agree with that. What's that old man with the bird in his pocket in there for? Being too nice?!

Parrish_Crooks

basquille wrote: »

But, although I may get absolutely thrased for this, neither will 'The Dark Knight'.

It's a great film... best superhero movie to date but wait til the hype dies down.

Don't get me wrong.. it'll still remain a fantastic film but I don't think 'The Dark Knight' will go down as a "stone-cold classic" by any means either.

Agreed. Good film, very good film. But threw on Batman (1989) the other day though and still think it's much better that TDK.

johnny_ultimate

irish_bob wrote: »

i see nothing particulary special in the dialogue in shawshank
its a very sentimental flim , most of the prisoners are thoroughly unrealistically nice guys , at least you dont also have ultra nice guards like in the green mile but there still a little bit too sweet

Yeah I'd agree too. Not like Shawshank is a bad film - it is a very entertaining one - but the whole film is very contrived, conservative and a bit overly sentimental at the end of the day. I do enjoy rewatching it every now and again as it is a great at what it does, but definitely wouldn't consider it one of my favourites.

But I do agree with Basquille on the Dark Knight - it is a fantastic superhero film, and may be a while before its topped, but once the hyperbole dies down it should be applauded as simply an A grade blockbuster rather than the second coming. TDK has passed the stage of simply being a film - it has kind of bypassed that and become more of a cultural event, with the hype a different entity to the film itself.

And again though, I really think the IMDB top list is a glorified popularity contest at the end of the day, and not worth getting annoyed over.

Linoge

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Shawshank probably has some of the best dialogue of any film I have ever seen.

Like irishbob, i would not rate the dialogue at any level. have you ever seen Pulp Fiction?! I dont think there is even one quotable line from the SSR. maybe i'm wrong?

robby^5

Linoge wrote: »

Oh yes, it keeps me awake at night. I'm crying right now it annoys me so much. If you really and truly cannot add something of substance to a light hearted message board disccusion you should really and truly get over yourself.

If it's light hearted, then why so serious? (oh lol)

I'm just of the opinion people need to take these polls with a pinch of salt, IMDB isnt the be all and end all, it's not definitive... there are people who really exagerate it's importance.

MisterAnarchy

Linoge wrote: »

Like irishbob, i would not rate the dialogue at any level. have you ever seen Pulp Fiction?! I dont think there is even one quotable line from the SSR. maybe i'm wrong?

I suggest you watch it again.
Here are just a few

Red: Get busy living… or get busy dying. That’s god damn right.
Red: They send you here for life… and that’s exactly what they take.
Andy Dufresne: Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Warden Samuel Norton (Bob Gunton): Lord it’s a miracle! Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind!
Red: I’d like to think that the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him.
Red: I find I’m so excited I can barely sit still, or hold a thought in my head. I think it’s the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey who’s conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.

BTW I've seen Pulp Fiction about 20 times ,it is a great film .

DirkVoodoo

Do any of us really care?

An internet poll doesnt make it official, everyone has their own personal top 10 list. Some will have TDK at the top, others will have batman and robin (im looking at you Joel!).

All that matters is what you consider a good movie, feck IMDB and the fanboys who bow down before it and accept it as the truth. I think TDK was class, I couldnt give a rat's bony behind what some 14 year old dork who has to post "first!!!!!!" on superherohype thinks.

Bah, I'm getting old, bring me another pillow.

Also, thanks for that Mister Anarchy, havent seen that movie in ages, Freeman's little voiceover at the end is pure class, the man could make penguins marching in the snow sound interesting....

Linoge

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I suggest you watch it again.
Here are just a few

Red: Get busy living… or get busy dying. That’s god damn right.
Red: They send you here for life… and that’s exactly what they take.
Andy Dufresne: Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Warden Samuel Norton (Bob Gunton): Lord it’s a miracle! Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind!
Red: I’d like to think that the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him.
Red: I find I’m so excited I can barely sit still, or hold a thought in my head. I think it’s the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey who’s conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.

BTW I've seen Pulp Fiction about 20 times ,it is a great film .

Not being pedantic (who am i kidding, yes I am...), but most of that is narration, not dialogue...

eagle eye

If we were all to agree how boring would the world be and how would anyone come up with a great movie when we all were looking for the same thing.

Shawshank is in my top five as well but so is TDK now, the Godfather, The Third Man but my numero uno is the The Big Lebowski.

irish_bob

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I suggest you watch it again.
Here are just a few

Red: Get busy living… or get busy dying. That’s god damn right.
Red: They send you here for life… and that’s exactly what they take.
Andy Dufresne: Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Warden Samuel Norton (Bob Gunton): Lord it’s a miracle! Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind!
Red: I’d like to think that the last thing that went through his head, other than that bullet, was how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him.
Red: I find I’m so excited I can barely sit still, or hold a thought in my head. I think it’s the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at the start of a long journey who’s conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.

BTW I've seen Pulp Fiction about 20 times ,it is a great film .

morgan freeman is a great narrator , listen to him narrate where hillary swanks charechter in million dollar baby comes from , same deal as in shawshank , he can make any ol tosh sound deep and meaningful

Stabshauptmann

Linoge wrote: »

Like irishbob, i would not rate the dialogue at any level. have you ever seen Pulp Fiction?! I dont think there is even one quotable line from the SSR. maybe i'm wrong?

Andy Dufresne - who crawled through a river of **** and came out clean on the other side.