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  • 11-08-2008 10:38am
    #1
    ImmortalOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭


    When I first came here I was overwhelmed with the amount of topics available. Don't get me wrong but it there are a lot of categorys that could fit under one name. It just makes it so hard to keep track of eveything, there's boards within boards, does anyone else understand what I mean?

    For example, we've got:

    Biology & Medicine
    Dental Issues
    Eyeglasses & Contact Lens & Eyecare
    Long Term Illness
    Physics & Chemistry

    All under one board, couldn't they be under health care or health? There's tonnes of others like this, where subjects seem way out of place, and it just clutters up the boards.

    I hate to be ignornant, I can only think of one reason why this would be, and that's because there is simply too many people registered here, so they had to break it down even more. Anyway, thanks for reading.
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • #2
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Did we not just have this discussion the other week? I'm nearly sure we did. It probably got lost in amongst all those topics.


  • #3
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The reason for many "similar forums" is that a single forum would be cluttered with a lot of similar threads, creating a subforum makes things easier and neater. Also some forums are highly specialised, ie BGRH ;)


  • #4
    challengemaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    They're all there for a reason...


  • #5
    sei046
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭sei046


    What the hell would physics and chemistry be doing under health?


  • #6
    Ron DMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    sei046 wrote: »
    What the hell would physics and chemistry be doing under health?
    rofl :D


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  • #7
    ImmortalOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭ImmortalOne


    sei046 wrote: »
    What the hell would physics and chemistry be doing under health?

    Not exactly, what about dental issues, biology and medicine under health. That was just a preview at the top of my head.


  • #8
    ImmortalOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭ImmortalOne


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Did we not just have this discussion the other week? I'm nearly sure we did. It probably got lost in amongst all those topics.

    I wasn't registered last week.


  • #9
    Jonathan
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    I dont really see how physics / chemistry issues could go in to long term illness..


  • #10
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    ImmortalOne wrote: »
    I wasn't registered last week.

    There's this magic thing called 'search'....


  • #11
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    ImmortalOne wrote: »
    For example, we've got:

    Biology & Medicine
    Dental Issues
    Eyeglasses & Contact Lens & Eyecare
    Long Term Illness
    Physics & Chemistry

    All under one board, couldn't they be under health care or health?
    WTF have Physics and Chemistry got to do with Long Term Illness?
    Just because you don't have an interest in (or knowledge of) certain topics doesn't mean they should be lumped together for your aesthetic satisfaction.
    ImmortalOne wrote: »
    I hate to be ignornant, I can only think of one reason why this would be, and that's because there is simply too many people registered here, so they had to break it down even more
    Indeed - too many users! In the same way SKY have too many subscribers!


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  • #12
    6th
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    There's this magic thing called 'search'....

    Its not Magic ... seriously.


  • #13
    Mr Magnolia
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    OP, you can subscribe to threads or individual forums that interest you, just in case your having trouble keeping track of your posts or things that interest you. Maybe you're aware of this?


  • #14
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    6th wrote: »
    Its not Magic ... seriously.

    True, it's more real :pac:


  • #15
    Marcus.Aurelius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    Biology hardly belongs under health or medicine, what about the Biotech/molecular biology stuff?

    Seems fine as it is to me.


  • #16
    Epic Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Epic Tissue


    OP, make use of your user cp and subcription to threads. Much easier to follow then.


  • #17
    Gone West
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    challengemaster wrote: »
    They're all there for a reason...
    Because people request niche forums so that they are made moderator :pac:


  • #18
    monkeyfudge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    6th wrote: »
    Its not Magic ... seriously.

    One of Arthur C. Clarke's 3 laws of prediction states:

    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"


  • #19
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    monkeyfudge wrote: »
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
    Corollary: any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.


  • #20
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    There's this magic thing called 'search'....
    There is also this magic thing called "Manners".
    I suggest you brush up on yours.

    OP, there is place for everything because of pedantic people, but mostly because of the fact that some people specialise in certain fields and are better able to help users with their queries without having to go through a huge cluster**** of pointless thread that would be better suited elsewhere.


  • #21
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    The only thing I can think of is if forums like 'long term illness' & 'Dental issues' were moved from the science section to a health section, which would clear it up. Which is what CuLT had posted about before in his cleaning up the 'Rec' thread...

    Aside's from that, why not have all these forums? If people want to have discussion about these things give them a place to do it...


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  • #22
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Terry wrote: »
    cluster****

    \o/


  • #23
    HarryD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭HarryD


    Have to agree with the OP.
    Travel/holidays has now been split into 4 forums:

    Australia & New Zealand
    Independant & Youth Travel
    Travel & Holidays
    Travel reports

    Where do we stop ->
    Ireland
    England
    France
    Spain.
    ..etc..etc

    Personally I'd prefer to have it all under one forum.. I don't think cluttering is a problem in this instance..

    HD


  • #24
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Well considering how little it seems people are willing to make use of the search funtion, having more specific forums cuts down on ridiculous thread duplication.


  • #25
    keen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    There's this magic thing called 'search'....

    It's useless.


  • #26
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    keen wrote: »
    It's useless.
    No u.


  • #27
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I think are to many ' Naff ' threads which i imagine make it all the more harder for Mods to Moderate but i suppose one mans / womens Naffness is anothers topic of intrest .


  • #28
    keen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    Mordeth kthxbai! wrote: »
    No u.

    If the OP was to search instead of posting a new thread he wouldn't get many relevant results.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3054512

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3054525

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3054536


  • #29
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    keen wrote: »
    If the OP was to search instead of posting a new thread he wouldn't get many relevant results.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3054512

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3054525

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=3054536

    No point in posting searchid's - they expire after a few minutes.


  • #30
    HarryD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭HarryD


    Mordeth kthxbai! wrote: »
    Well considering how little it seems people are willing to make use of the search funtion, having more specific forums cuts down on ridiculous thread duplication.

    People like to browse categories, to see what's active.
    I'm interested in travel, which means I now have to browse 4 message boards,
    in order to encompass all.


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  • #31
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Never understood why Celeb and Showbiz is under Arts.


  • #32
    gogglebok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭gogglebok


    I think the OP makes a good point. Some of the organisation is a bit diffuse. The Television forum has a sub-forum for Television, which always puzzles me.


  • #33
    monkeyfudge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    gogglebok wrote: »
    I think the OP makes a good point. Some of the organisation is a bit diffuse. The Television forum has a sub-forum for Television, which always puzzles me.

    It's a television category containing numerous television related forums including a general television forum.


  • #34
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    ImmortalOne wrote: »
    When I first came here I was overwhelmed with the amount of topics available. Don't get me wrong but it there are a lot of categorys that could fit under one name. It just makes it so hard to keep track of eveything, there's boards within boards, does anyone else understand what I mean?

    For example, we've got:

    Biology & Medicine
    Dental Issues
    Eyeglasses & Contact Lens & Eyecare
    Long Term Illness
    Physics & Chemistry

    All under one board, couldn't they be under health care or health? There's tonnes of others like this, where subjects seem way out of place, and it just clutters up the boards.

    I hate to be ignornant, I can only think of one reason why this would be, and that's because there is simply too many people registered here, so they had to break it down even more. Anyway, thanks for reading.
    HarryD wrote: »
    Have to agree with the OP.
    Travel/holidays has now been split into 4 forums:

    Australia & New Zealand
    Independant & Youth Travel
    Travel & Holidays
    Travel reports

    Where do we stop ->
    Ireland
    England
    France
    Spain.
    ..etc..etc

    Personally I'd prefer to have it all under one forum.. I don't think cluttering is a problem in this instance..

    HD
    keen wrote: »
    It's useless.
    gogglebok wrote: »
    I think the OP makes a good point. Some of the organisation is a bit diffuse. The Television forum has a sub-forum for Television, which always puzzles me.

    And you're all very welcome to Boards.ie!

    It's all too often that people arrive, and with little to no real experience of the site try and change it for the "better". With all due respect, do you really think your ideas are visionary? The site has developed over 10 years and acquired more than 100,000 users. So why not try using it the way it is, and discover the reasons it became so popular and got to where/how it is now, rather than trying to tinker with something that has evolved through the years?


  • #35
    keen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    Mordeth kthxbai! wrote: »
    And you're all very welcome to Boards.ie!

    It's all too often that people arrive, and with little to no real experience of the site try and change it for the "better". With all due respect, do you really think your ideas are visionary? The site has developed over 10 years and acquired more than 100,000 users. So why not try using it the way it is, and discover the reasons it became so popular and got to where/how it is now, rather than trying to tinker with something that has evolved through the years?

    What has any of that got to do with me saying that the search function doesn't work?

    People were complaing that users don't use the search function, I was saying if the OP had of it would of made no difference.


  • #36
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Search works for me. What problem are you having with it?


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  • #37
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Search works for me. What problem are you having with it?
    +1

    Perhaps it is your inability to use the search function, through your lack of experience?


  • #38
    keen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Search works for me. What problem are you having with it?

    I posted links to searches I done yesterday not realising that they run out in a few seconds, I searched for "too many forums" "too many boards" etc and got nothing of relevance, I find this happens with a lot of searches I've done.


  • #39
    keen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    Mordeth kthxbai! wrote: »
    +1

    Perhaps it is your inability to use the search function, through your lack of experience?

    Perhaps, I didn't think you'd need experience to use it though seems like a pretty easy concept, type keywords search.


  • #40
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    keen wrote: »
    I posted links to searches I done yesterday not realising that they run out in a few seconds, I searched for "too many forums" "too many boards" etc and got nothing of relevance, I find this happens with a lot of searches I've done.
    Well I just did a sitewide search for "number of forums" with no other criteria, and found the 11th result to be the most recent thread on this "issue" before now. Less than two weeks ago.


  • #41
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    keen wrote: »
    Perhaps, I didn't think you'd need experience to use it though seems like a pretty easy concept, type keywords search.
    Yes but generally with any search engine that isn't as advanced as Google et al you need to use the correct/most appropriate keywords. And your use of the word "too" is not the best idea in any case.


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  • #42
    keen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    Mordeth kthxbai! wrote: »
    Yes but generally with any search engine that isn't as advanced as Google et al you need to use the correct/most appropriate keywords. And your use of the word "too" is not the best idea in any case.

    I also tried it without the word "too"


  • #43
    HarryD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭HarryD


    Search is good if you're after a specific topic/subject.
    The issue I have is browsing.
    I like to browse a shop or through a newspaper to see if there's anything of interest.
    The scope for this is limited on boards.ie in some cases.


  • #44
    Adam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Lads, for the most part, each of the fora exists because someone suggested it, and there were many other users that supported the idea. So say 5 years ago, someone suggested a Biology & Medicine forum. A whole bunch of users got behind the idea and said yay, let's us eat cake etc.

    Then a year later, someone suggested a long term illness forum, and the same thing happened, and so on. Who's right is it then to come along even years later and say "Hang on lads, we're lashing all these niche fora together!".

    And another argument, towards HarryD:

    You say it has limited scope for browsing, because you just want to browse through everything (presumably?). So everything in one place is easier for you to browse. But what happens when someone comes along and wants to read about long term illnesses? Well they might have to trawl through an awful lot of other stuff in the parent forum, because apparently the search function doesn't work. :rolleyes:

    At the end of the day, this site is only getting bigger, so it's not going to start moving backwards is it? Might as well get used to it.


  • #45
    Procasinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭Procasinator


    For more advanced searches, you can also use google. Just use the site modifier.

    For instance, to search for coconuts on boards.ie, use this as your search query.

    site:boards.ie coconuts
    http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aboards.ie+coconuts&btnG=Google+Search&meta=


  • #46
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    ImmortalOne wrote: »
    Not exactly, what about dental issues, biology and medicine under health. That was just a preview at the top of my head.

    I actually do not like the Biology being landed with Medicine

    Sure, they share common areas in places but biology also deals with a hell of a lot more than medicine.

    Biology in industry is a completely seperate field (GM foods, Brewing, Biodiversity, Biotech etc)
    I do not browse the B&M forum as I feel that it is cluttered in favour of the Medi side


  • #47
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    6th wrote: »
    Its not Magic ... seriously.

    An illusion then?


  • #48
    HarryD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭HarryD


    Mordeth kthxbai! wrote: »
    Lads, for the most part, each of the fora exists because someone suggested it, and there were many other users that supported the idea. So say 5 years ago, someone suggested a Biology & Medicine forum. A whole bunch of users got behind the idea and said yay, let's us eat cake etc.

    Then a year later, someone suggested a long term illness forum, and the same thing happened, and so on. Who's right is it then to come along even years later and say "Hang on lads, we're lashing all these niche fora together!".

    And another argument, towards HarryD:

    You say it has limited scope for browsing, because you just want to browse through everything (presumably?). So everything in one place is easier for you to browse. But what happens when someone comes along and wants to read about long term illnesses? Well they might have to trawl through an awful lot of other stuff in the parent forum, because apparently the search function doesn't work. :rolleyes:
    .

    I agree the fora in some cases need categorised further, and in most cases this has been done well (eg: Biolology vs long term illness)
    But in some cases I think more consideration should have been be given.
    I don't agree with splitting the low traffic forum, "Travel & Holidays" into 4 different forums.
    To me it seems the mods in some cases are split happy.

    HD


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