the killers new music

xbox36016

thare new cd is out soon and what are you hopeing from it than

lordgoat

Th\t none of the songs will be played on the radio. Ever.

JaneyMc

Well I'm hoping Brandon Flowers gets his head out from up his own arse and gets back to the style of the first album. But that's not going to happen, and he stills believes his own hype so its probably going to be crap tbh.

I do like that tranqilize song though.

lordgoat

JaneyMc wrote: »

Well I'm hoping Brandon Flowers gets his head out from up his own arse and gets back to the style of the first album. But that's not going to happen, and he stills believes his own hype so its probably going to be crap tbh.

I do like that tranqilize song though.

?

Do explain. What is his own hype? I seem to have missed it.

xbox36016

look up on youtube nean tiger its a very good song

insinkerator

I really liked both albums, hoever Hot Fuss is easily ten times better! One of the best albums i have ever listened to in fact. I really hope they go back to the style of their first album..

Anyone have any links to tasters or whatever??

Stompbox

Sams Town ftw

Dancor

Sweet wrote: »

Sams Town ftw

+1

Neo#

Nah Sam's town is muck bar a few good singles. Theyre also terrible live. Has anyone noticed that Flowers cant sing?

xbox36016

thare one off the bast bands live fall out boy are so so so bad live

gustavo

I enjoyed Sams Town over all more than Hot Fuss , even though Hot Fuss probably had the best 4-5 songs , it tailed off badly towards the end, looking forward to hearing the new stuff anyway , I think it will be more in the style of the Hot Fuss album

ronanoc

There a few musical opinions that really really rile me. One of them being the perception being that Hot Fuss is a better album than Sam's Town.

Hot Fuss had 4-5 very very good radio-friendly singles that got hugely overplayed. I was in college at the time the album and every single day, some apartment in the college res was pumping out Mr. Brightside. Infuriating. 2-Dimensional is a good word to describe Hot Fuss, and to be honest it's hardly suprising it appealled to the mass. Its success being the fact that it was 2-dimensional rather than being in spite of that.

Sam's Town, on the other hand, is a huge leap forward musically and really is a superb album offering fresh delights on every listen. I listened to Sam's Town constantly for a couple of months because I simply could not get enough. The music is better, the lyrics are better and the songs are better. Simple as. The opening trio of Sam's Town, Enterlude and When You Were Young is as good as you'll get. The album keeps up it's rhythm right through and ends beautifully on Exitlude and Where The White Boys Dance (although not technically part of the album, it's still a great song).

lordgoat

ronanoc wrote: »

There a few musical opinions that really really rile me. One of them being the perception being that Hot Fuss is a better album than Sam's Town.

Hot Fuss had 4-5 very very good radio-friendly singles that got hugely overplayed. I was in college at the time the album and every single day, some apartment in the college res was pumping out Mr. Brightside. Infuriating. 2-Dimensional is a good word to describe Hot Fuss, and to be honest it's hardly suprising it appealled to the mass. Its success being the fact that it was 2-dimensional rather than being in spite of that.

Sam's Town, on the other hand, is a huge leap forward musically and really is a superb album offering fresh delights on every listen. I listened to Sam's Town constantly for a couple of months because I simply could not get enough. The music is better, the lyrics are better and the songs are better. Simple as. The opening trio of Sam's Town, Enterlude and When You Were Young is as good as you'll get. The album keeps up it's rhythm right through and ends beautifully on Exitlude and Where The White Boys Dance (although not technically part of the album, it's still a great song).

I love the authority in this little speech/rant. It screams: I'm right about this and i know it. I'm worried what would happen if you stumbled across a really good album!

Creamy Goodness

i was never a huge killers fan, although i like them. i would think sam's town is a better record than the debut, but the debut was good. i think it just gels better.

should be interesting to see what they come out with next.

The Batman

Lordgoat its his opinion....get over it!!!

I have to say im a huge killers fan..I feel every album released so far has great music on it that leaves you with endless listening!!! Hot fuss was undoubtedly a great album....with all these things that i've done and mr bightside being great songs to get the crowd going live!!

I think Sams town was equally as good....Read my mind is such a good song!!Also i love uncle johnny,the river is wild and my list....and honestly i would play exitlude at my funerel!!!!!!!Even sawdust is a great album...with good covers of dire straits romeo and juliet and joy divisions shadowplay!!!

I eagerly await this album!!! The killers are great live and their lyrics are outstanding!!

Creamy Goodness

The Batman wrote: »

Lordgoat its his opinion....get over it!!!

i agree with him tbh, there's a stink of "my opinion is the only one that counts" about his post.

fair enough if other people's opinions rile him but they are just as valid as his own and he has no right to belittle their opinions.

ronanoc

Cremo wrote: »

i agree with him tbh, there's a stink of "my opinion is the only one that counts" about his post.

I have to say I agree with you Cremo, and Lordgoat. I get a bit carried away sometimes but no sense in watering down my opinions.

And Lordgoat, I don't great albums don't have to be one in a million. Sam's Town was probably in my top 3 of 2006 but wouldn't get near my top 50. Not that I have a top 50. I'm not quite at a High-Fidelity state of obsession.

Kold

I hope they all die? Or at least rendered incapable of making music?

Dudess

I only know singles by The Killers but they're far better than a lot of other "indie" out at the moment.

The only Killers single I hate is Somebody Told Me.

Mr Bright Side and When You Were Young are ace songs.

Kold

Smile like you mean it is probably the worst song ever. Everytime I hear it I want to put a shotgun to my head.

"Smiiiiiiile like ya main itttt dooo dooo dooooooo" x infinity in the worlds most despicable voice. God I hate The Killers.

Earthhorse

Dudess wrote: »

The only Killers single I hate is Somebody Told Me.

Yes, yes, God yes!

"Somebody told me
That you had a boyfriend
And she was your girlfriend
And that was your friend's friend
A friend of a friend friend
This song doesn't end end..."

Have to say Read My Mind really changed my opinion of this band. Haven't been convinced enough to invest in an album but it, Mr. Brightside and Smile Like You Mean It are pretty kick ass songs. They can really kick out a tune when they want to.

Creature

Kold wrote: »

Smile like you mean it is probably the worst song ever. Everytime I hear it I want to put a shotgun to my head.

"Smiiiiiiile like ya main itttt dooo dooo dooooooo" x infinity in the worlds most despicable voice. God I hate The Killers.

Yeah that song is dreadful. Really really awful.

Earthhorse wrote: »

Yes, yes, God yes!

"Somebody told me
That you had a boyfriend
And she was your girlfriend
And that was your friend's friend
A friend of a friend friend
This song doesn't end end..."

Lol rhyming "friend" with "friend" - brilliant!



Yeah The Killers are pretty poor. That song they did with Lou Reed was really very good though.

JaneyMc

lordgoat wrote: »

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Do explain. What is his own hype? I seem to have missed it.

He said somewhere something like "There are only two poets left in the world, myself and Bob Dylan". I''ve been searching for it but I can't find it, which is really annoying me because I remember reading it somewhere. Afair it was maybe just after Hot Fuss he said this. Only an idiot who is totally up themselves would have the nerve to say something like that so early in their career.

grumpytrousers

i think Hot Fuss is a better 'pop' Album, and i don't mean that in a bad way. It's more immediate. It's front loaded, first up. The opening double whammy of Jenny and Brightside are just brilliant. Even if Hot Fuss isn't in your top x albums, Jenny as an opener should be in your top x opening tracks. Assuming that this kind of music is your kind of thing...

The problem is that it trails off. If they'd kept the momentum of side one (says the man who listens to it on mp3) all the way through, it'd be an alltime classic album. They didn't. There's too much fluff on the last few tracks and they're just too ordinary when trying to compete with the stuff that's already gone.

Sams town just tried to be more epic. If Hot Fuss was the musical equivalent of Ashes to Ashes on BBC1 then Sams Town wanted to be 'Once Upon a Time in the West'. On IMAX. I'm not sure it worked, but as an attempt to move forward, from first album to second album, it pisses all over anything a hell of a lot of more respected bands ever tried.

I still prefer the immediacy of Hot Fuss, even though I know Sams Town is the better album. I'll be interested to see what Album #3 is like!

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Bubs101

Sam's town is great and showed alot of maturity and development from a band in it's infancy. Compared to Hot Fuss, which was 5 or so great song tied around 6 really boring fillers, Sam's Town was an attempt to make a complete album, that was designed to listen to from start to finish that didn't have any immediate singles off it.It was the first time a popular band with little credentials tried it since Hybrid Theory .It was a commercial risk and fair enough if you don't like the music, no-one's forcing you to listen.

In all fairness Lordgoat, you need to get off your high horse. Just because they're popular doesn't make them crap, Sam's Town got a critical lauding when it came out and personally, I'd mirror virtually everything Ronanoc says in his last paragraph.

Dudess

Bubs101 wrote: »

Just because they're popular doesn't make them crap

I had a feeling that would come up on this thread

Yep. Unless an increase in a band's popularity directly affects the quality of their output, then to start disliking them purely on the basis that they're getting a lot of airplay and selling a lot of singles/albums is being wanky.

I'm starting to hear murmurs of "I'm going off Arcade Fire now, they've become too commercial". I find that rather strange cuz in my opinion, Neon Bible is a better album than Funeral.

Kold

Bubs101 wrote: »

In all fairness Lordgoat, you need to get off your high horse. Just because they're popular doesn't make them crap, Sam's Town got a critical lauding when it came out and personally, I'd mirror virtually everything Ronanoc says in his last paragraph.

He never said anywhere that they're crap because they're popular. They're crap because they're crap. The fact that they're popular makes them all the more irritating though due to their sh*tty f*cking songs being played all the time.

JerryHandbag

The first 2 tracks on Hot Fuss were really good, but the rest is just filler material....Sams Town has its moments too, Read My Mind is class, kinda got me back listening to them having got bored of the first album....I dont know what to make of them though, they can come up with some great tracks but also some very lame ones. They are just....meh

Much rather listen to The Arcade Fire

Creamy Goodness

Dudess wrote: »

I'm starting to hear murmurs of "I'm going off Arcade Fire now, they've become too commercial". I find that rather strange cuz in my opinion, Neon Bible is a better album than Funeral.

Only hearing that now? i was hearing that before neon bible even came out.

Must take a long time for things to travel to Cork .

and I agree with neon bible being a better album than funeral.

lordgoat

The Batman wrote: »

The killers are great live and their lyrics are outstanding!!

I'm not being smart but do you know who the killers are? Have you them perhaps mixed up with someone else?

Outstanding lyrics? Good live? I've heard all their songs and seen them live twice and they write crappy pop lyrics and are non-existent on stage, it's just like the cd and very very average. I know alot of people that love the killers but none of them would agree with them being outstanding lyricists or being good live.

lordgoat

JaneyMc wrote: »

He said somewhere something like "There are only two poets left in the world, myself and Bob Dylan". I''ve been searching for it but I can't find it, which is really annoying me because I remember reading it somewhere. Afair it was maybe just after Hot Fuss he said this. Only an idiot who is totally up themselves would have the nerve to say something like that so early in their career.

If you find that quote fair enough, but i'm pretty if he said that it would have done the rounds. Any one else hear that? I don't think anyone in music would be as foolish to say this. I'm not calling you a liar just saying i've never heard this before.

lordgoat

Bubs101 wrote: »

In all fairness Lordgoat, you need to get off your high horse. Just because they're popular doesn't make them crap, Sam's Town got a critical lauding when it came out and personally, I'd mirror virtually everything Ronanoc says in his last paragraph.

Eh Bubsy where did i say i don't like them because they're popular? I don't like them as i think they are a very average band. Great singles for their time def, but i found both their album leave no lasting impression. They have the balance that most 'indie' bands today strife for. The non-offensive tripe with catchy hook that radio loves. And fair play they've found a formula that works, i would love if their new album was a complete departure from this but i sense more of the same.

Oh and Arcade Fire are a millions times better than them. In every way, musically, lyrically, live. Well maybe not commercially!

Bubs101

lordgoat wrote: »

Eh Bubsy where did i say i don't like them because they're popular? I don't like them as i think they are a very average band. Great singles for their time def, but i found both their album leave no lasting impression. They have the balance that most 'indie' bands today strife for. The non-offensive tripe with catchy hook that radio loves.

OK, fair enough, you didn't actually say it but I was getting that vibe from both you and Kold. As for "non-offensive tripe" however, Uncle Jonny is about a family member hooked on cocaine while Jenny was a Friend of Mine is about someone defending themselves from a murder charge, hardly "She Moves in her own way now is it"

lordgoat wrote: »

And fair play they've found a formula that works, i would love if their new album was a complete departure from this but i sense more of the same.

I don't understand this statement at all though, one of the best things about the Killers is their ambition. They had a formula which sold millions on Hot Fuss, through it out the window and created a second one which did just as well creatively while lifting the quality of their overall sound. Did you love the way Sam's Town was a "complete departure" because you seem dissapointed again.You really aren't giving them credit for their change in sound.

Also, just out of interest, if you find them so bland why do you own their two albums and why have you seen them twice?

lordgoat wrote: »

Oh and Arcade Fire are a millions times better than them. In every way, musically, lyrically, live. Well maybe not commercially!

I'm certainly going to get abuse for this but I much prefered Sam's Town to Neon Bible

The Batman

If they are so bad live Lordgoat....why did you see them live twice!!??? I have seen them live and thought they put on some show....got the whole crowd going!!! I wouldnt compare them to muse or arcade fire live...but i certainly would go see them again!!!

As for people going off arcade fire....wot a load of crap!!! Their the people who always hear of the next new thing a few months before everyone else and dont like it cos its on the radio!! Neon bible is a great album....nobody can deny that!!! Unless of course that genre of music is not your type!!

Kold

Bubs101 wrote: »

I'm certainly going to get abuse for this but I much prefered Sam's Town to Neon Bible

You also think Radiohead haven't made a good album since OK Computer, don't worry, I can't be surprised by you anymore :pac:

JimmyJay

I'm afraid i have to agree that sams town is much better, they moved on from synth pop and were much better for the move, in my opinion anyway!

lordgoat

Bubs101 wrote: »

OK, fair enough, you didn't actually say it but I was getting that vibe from both you and Kold. As for "non-offensive tripe" however, Uncle Jonny is about a family member hooked on cocaine while Jenny was a Friend of Mine is about someone defending themselves from a murder charge, hardly "She Moves in her own way now is it"

I don't understand this statement at all though, one of the best things about the Killers is their ambition. They had a formula which sold millions on Hot Fuss, through it out the window and created a second one which did just as well creatively while lifting the quality of their overall sound. Did you love the way Sam's Town was a "complete departure" because you seem dissapointed again.You really aren't giving them credit for their change in sound.

Also, just out of interest, if you find them so bland why do you own their two albums and why have you seen them twice?

I'm certainly going to get abuse for this but I much prefered Sam's Town to Neon Bible

To start with i got their first album thought it was ok, gave it to my little brother, who got the second album and i've heard it through him. He thinks it's great. I've seen them twice at festivals, both times they were poor.

While Sams Town may be a departure from Hot Fuss the one thing they have in common is the production. Both are radio-single heavy with filler in my opinion. I'm not saying theres anything wrong with it. Hell U2 have done it for a couple of decades. But again in my opinion i don't think there is anything lasting to them. Are they one of the best bands of our time, definitiey not. Do they write a good pop song - certainly.

I'm not a Neon Bible kind of guy and i actually think ST and it are very similar. But i'd rather listen to Darkness on the Edge of Town over either of them anyday of the week.

youcancallmeal

They toured for two years on Hot Fuss. By the end of it I was so sick of them, it seemed everywhere I went there they were playing Mr. Brightside, Indie Rock'n'Roll etc. I remember they headlined Friday night at Glastonbury 2007 and it was probably the poorest headliner I've ever seen at a festival anywhere. They were playing to nearly 100,000 people and they looked so disinterested, Brandon Flowers' eyes said it all "I'm so sick of playing these songs!". Now most people I know wouldn't give them the time of day after two years of that crap. However I did listen to Sam's town when it was released and I actually enjoyed it. I will also check out their new album too. Absence makes the heart grow fond I suppose

callaway92

xbox36016 wrote: »

thare one off the bast bands live fall out boy are so so so bad live

You never saw Falloutboy live you dope,,Stop telling lies to everyone please and will someone ban this account he has had multiple permabans and keeps coming back for more:p

raemie21

New material is v.similar to Sam's Town - they've started to play Neon Tiger & Spaceman, sounds great so far.

Dudess

callaway92 wrote: »

You never saw Falloutboy live you dope,,Stop telling lies to everyone please and will someone ban this account he has had multiple permabans and keeps coming back for more:p

What are you on about? I don't know whether you're being serious or whether this is a private joke between you and him.