Anonymous use of mobiles

worried shooter

Hi

I am wondering is it possible to remain completly anonymous on an Irish network as a prepay customer. I don't want to register my details. Is it possible to deal with any network in this manner? I have found that shops won't sell with out ID. They want to register your details.

I am not interested in any offers or free credits etc.

drunkmonkey

You don't need to register with any of the networks pay as you go....just go into a shop and buy a new phone with a number off the shelf....nobody should be asking you for ID.....


I know with 02 & Meteor you need to register online to get all your free credit, no registration is required to get your free credit from 3....not sure about voda

dr.bollocko

U dont have to give your real details on their website either to register for credit.

drunkmonkey

I hope your not up to anything dodgy....?

Mimikyu

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drunkmonkey

Solitaryman666 wrote: »

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I never knew that, never bought a phone off them but I know where i'd tell them to go....that's harldy legal...no network demands you check Id when buying a pay as you go phone....
I'd say there doing it for marketing purposes....chancers...

Fresh Pots

why have you a problem giving your details?

AARRRGH

lonely_soldier wrote: »

why have you a problem giving your details?

It's Osama!!

worried shooter

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I hope your not up to anything dodgy....?

Nope, absolutely not.

lonely_soldier wrote: »

why have you a problem giving your details?

I dispise marketing policies. I don't want anyone calling me up trying to sell me stuff.

AARRRGH wrote: »

It's Osama!!

strecker

lonely_soldier wrote: »

why have you a problem giving your details?

or is the question, WHY DON'T you have a problem?!


anyway...couple of years, prepay without ID will be illegal, which will cause a whole new bunch of crime rather than solve crime...

drunkmonkey

strecker wrote: »

or is the question, WHY DON'T you have a problem?!


anyway...couple of years, prepay without ID will be illegal, which will cause a whole new bunch of crime rather than solve crime...

5 million + phone users, can really see the Garda making this a priority.....wonder what the punishment for being caught with a unregistered mobile will be....? 12mts on tesco?

this will never ever happen....when you need a licence to talk things have really gone too far...

Our man in Havana

I had found it awful difficult to deal with Meteor CS with an unregistered phone. Eventually it was easier to give them a name and address just to keep them sweet. Some agents were reluctant to deal with any query unless I registered first.

Davy

Solitaryman666 wrote: »

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Ofcourse you can, would be crazy if they wouldnt let you buy the phone though, can imagine anything more crazy.

I think the details they are taking are more for their own record of the purchase etc. But they probably passing them on to the network

Our man in Havana

CPW refuse to sell if you refuse to give them your details. Company policy.

Davy

Bond-007 wrote: »

CPW refuse to sell if you refuse to give them your details. Company policy.

Harsh

AlmightyCushion

It's probably for the warranty or something like that. If you have a problem with your phone and didn't keep your receipt then they would be able to search their system for your details.

Random

CPW are a bit stuck in the mud about it in my experience, but never had a problem in network shops.

I know I have an unregistered 3 SIM and all they wanted to do was me to add 2 passwords to the account to verify me. It's a realy shame the only thing they can do for me on the phone is confirm my 2 passwords though.

O2 have no problem with unregistered in my experience - ask them to add a password / PIN - they may also ask you to verify some recently dialled numbers but their attitude is very much "if it's not registered, we don't care about verifying anything".

As for Voda / Meteor - similar, they've asked me to confirm PINs / PUKs but not forced me to reg details.

The one thing to note is that if your SIMs not registered anyone can do stuff on your account in general because the networks have no data protection etc responsibilities. You may lose your number as a result of someone stealing it etc.

Davy

random wrote: »

The one thing to note is that if your SIMs not registered anyone can do stuff on your account in general because the networks have no data protection etc responsibilities. You may lose your number as a result of someone stealing it etc.

The guards should mess with it

Mimikyu

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Our man in Havana

I suspect it is marketing. I used to get spam from them about insurance etc so I assume that is the real reason for wanting your details.

I can't try the old fake name routine, I knows the local CPW store manager very well.

120_Minutes

CPW do not pass on details to the network, nor do they hit you with marketing unless you agree to it, they ask you for your details simply to have a record of the transaction for proof of purchase should any warranty issues arise. it is for thier own system and totally seperate from the networks.

as such, you can buy a phone in CPW, give them your real name (if you wish) but if the phone is not registered with the network, then the network is none the wiser.

that said, anyone who refuses to give any details to buy a phone seems dodgy to me..

Our man in Havana

Fake name ftw. :pac:

Sam Vimes

Bond-007 wrote: »

CPW refuse to sell if you refuse to give them your details. Company policy.

then i should have been sacked many times over

the details they take are so you don't have to keep the receipt. You can just come in and give your name and every phone you've bought pops up

they will sell a phone without giving details and i don't think it'd be legal to pass on the details to the networks. Would that not be against the data protection act?

jester77

I'm surprised you can still get a number in Ireland without registering it to a user. There are no good reasons to keep it anonymous, makes it easy for criminals, stalkers, etc

Our man in Havana

Sam Vimes wrote: »

then i should have been sacked many times over

the details they take are so you don't have to keep the receipt. You can just come in and give your name and every phone you've bought pops up

they will sell a phone without giving details and i don't think it'd be legal to pass on the details to the networks. Would that not be against the data protection act?

Must be the local store that is so anally retentive on that.

Our man in Havana

jester77 wrote: »

I'm surprised you can still get a number in Ireland without registering it to a user. There are no good reasons to keep it anonymous, makes it easy for criminals, stalkers, etc

I has stacks of various O2 and Tesco Sim cards here not registered.

jester77

Bond-007 wrote: »

I has stacks of various O2 and Tesco Sim cards here not registered.

So have I, every time I get into Ireland I purchase a SIM to use during the trip. Saves me a small fortune on roaming!

20 Times 20 Times

Bond-007 wrote: »

CPW refuse to sell if you refuse to give them your details. Company policy.

Is that fact ?

Our man in Havana

It is in my local CPW shop. No way will they sell without name and address. I was told that this was company policy.

miceal

Thats a strange one from CPW i bought a sim from there not so long ago where i live, handed over a tenner and was out the door! No details required.

Sure you can buy sims online on Voda and 02 website give them your details to deliver the sim, but it is then your choice whether or not you wish to register the sim.

20 Times 20 Times

Regarding buying a handset and taking details , is that anything to do with thrying to get people to sign up to the famous CPW insurance ?????

120_Minutes

Sarge wrote: »

Regarding buying a handset and taking details , is that anything to do with thrying to get people to sign up to the famous CPW insurance ?????

its a possibilty, but not really no. its moreso for keeping a record of transactions.

Victor

miceal wrote: »

Thats a strange one from CPW i bought a sim from there not so long ago where i live, handed over a tenner and was out the door! No details required.

Sim cheap. Handset less cheap.

Sam Vimes

Sarge wrote: »

Regarding buying a handset and taking details , is that anything to do with thrying to get people to sign up to the famous CPW insurance ?????

no it's not. Signing up to the insurance requires shining a separate form and either giving bank details or paying more on the spot

pippip

No matter how anonymous you would like to be the truth is that they will eventually find who you are...... once one of your mates texts you online the next question they are asked is "would you like to save this contact for future use....please enter first and last name". Then you are entered into there database. I don't think they act on this particular info but the big picture is that I wouldn't waste your time trying to avoid the system just cause you hate it.

My point is there are much tougher laws prohibiting them from contacting you if you don't want them to. I'd focus on ticking or unticking the right boxes.