Replacing apartment intercom phone

Gibbs

Hi

I am removing my old apartment intercom phone and want to put it in a different location. I have wires set up and ready to go, but I want to connect the cable coming out of the wall to a phone socket rather than directly to phone, and then connect phone to socket via jack. My problem is that the wiring going to the phone do not have standard colours (or maybe there aren't standard colours as this is not a landline). I was wondering if I could use the 6 wire phone jack box anyway.

The cable coming into the phone had six wires, a green one going into connection "9", a blue one going into "6", a white one coming into the door open button which was internally connected to connection "10", a yellow one connecting to "2" and a black one going to "1".

As i say, what I would like to do is to connect these to a six-connector wall mounted phone jack, so I could connect the phone to this. The old phone model/make is Urmet.

Any help much appreciated. I could post a picture if that would help.

Stoner

is the Urmet phone part of a big intercom system, because generally these units are not brand interchangeable, it is not the same a changing a house phone. There are many different methods used by these manufactures to get the information around, even within makes the methods are different. The Urmet phone you have maybe programmed into a Urmet panel. It is not in the interests of these manufactures to design interchangeable units

it could be part of a small simple system too, have other people changed them over too?

DublinDilbert

Gibbs wrote: »

Hi

I am removing my old apartment intercom phone and want to put it in a different location. I have wires set up and ready to go, but I want to connect the cable coming out of the wall to a phone socket rather than directly to phone, and then connect phone to socket via jack. My problem is that the wiring going to the phone do not have standard colours (or maybe there aren't standard colours as this is not a landline). I was wondering if I could use the 6 wire phone jack box anyway.

The cable coming into the phone had six wires, a green one going into connection "9", a blue one going into "6", a white one coming into the door open button which was internally connected to connection "10", a yellow one connecting to "2" and a black one going to "1".

As i say, what I would like to do is to connect these to a six-connector wall mounted phone jack, so I could connect the phone to this. The old phone model/make is Urmet.

Any help much appreciated. I could post a picture if that would help.

If i understand you correctly your moving an existing intercom phone to a new location... As stoner said there's all different types of systems, and they can be configured in different ways.

What i would do would be to run some CAT5 Ethernet cable from the old point to the new point, this is 8 cores, you'll only need 6.

-> At the new location you could fit an RJ45 wall plate, and punch the cable into it. Then at the intercom phone, cut up an ethernet patch cable, connect the wires onto the phone (in the correct spots) and plug in to the wall plate...

-> At the old location you'll need to connect on 6 of the wires, you should be able to use a block connector or a small alarm/phone style junction box to do this.

Before i would make the final connections at the old location i would get a multi meter and "bell" each of the wires, to make sure i was going to connect it to the correct place, do be doubly sure..

CombatCow

Sorry to drag up this old post, but I need to connect a intercom phone in my new apt, the wires are there so I just need to hook up a handset.

It seems like a standard old'ish voice only intercom system, is their any risk of me electrocuting myself if I try to wire it up myself ? .....is their any dangerous voltages in these systems generally ?

Thanks for any info.

CC

fred funk }{

No, it's all low voltage. Somewhere between 12 to 18 normally. Do you know how to connect it or are you guessing? open a neighbours phone and copy the wiring from there if you're not sure.

CombatCow

yeah im kinda guessing, im going by these details and diagram, but I don't seem to be getting a tone when i have it wired up....

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3074611&postcount=3

fred funk }{

That's a diagram for telephone wiring, not intercom.
Depending on the initial installer, the colours would be completely different for every intercom system. You will not get a colour coded wiring diagram for your intercom on the net. You might get a diagram showing wiring instructions but it will be probably be in numbers eg. #2 from the doorstation goes to #2 on the phone but unless you know what colour that is in the doorstation you can't wire the phone.
As I already said, your best bet is to open a neighbours phone and copy it on yours.

CombatCow

yeah I just thought it may be similar, obviously not tho

I'll try ask a neighbor, dunno if they would be happy with me attacking their phone with a screwdriver

Thanks a lot for your help, much appreciated.