Bank Holiday Work?

mumhaabu

OK, got a bit of a prediciment here which I can easily sort out by throwing my rank weight around but I prefer not to.

I have a niece who works in the retail industry in a company which is owned by my own firm. I was at my brothers house on Thursday and my niece was there and she was in a terrible state after been in a big row with a manager over working this bank holiday. The story is my niece always works bank holidays voluntarily and when she asked for this one off she was refused and had a row with her female manager. I was listening to the row and thought my niece was really attacked by this lady who seems to be on a power trip.

My question is what are the regulation for working bank holidays? I never work them myself as I don't have to. I'd prefer my niece to defeat her at her own game, so any help with this would be appreciated, I told my niece I'd sort it for her so I have till tomorrow evening to get this done.

I could easily step in through the company channels and get this woman fired to teach her a lesson as my niece is a hard worker and is only 18 so to treat her like this is terrible. I am tempted to nuke this manager over the whole incident but I generally try to keep neutral and have only fired two people ever for one for stealing and the second idiot for crashing a company car taken without permission while DUI.

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mumhaabu wrote: »

OK, got a bit of a prediciment here which I can easily sort out by throwing my rank weight around but I prefer not to.

I have a niece who works in the retail industry in a company which is owned by my own firm. I was at my brothers house on Thursday and my niece was there and she was in a terrible state after been in a big row with a manager over working this bank holiday. The story is my niece always works bank holidays voluntarily and when she asked for this one off she was refused and had a row with her female manager. I was listening to the row and thought my niece was really attacked by this lady who seems to be on a power trip.

My question is what are the regulation for working bank holidays? I never work them myself as I don't have to. I'd prefer my niece to defeat her at her own game, so any help with this would be appreciated, I told my niece I'd sort it for her so I have till tomorrow evening to get this done.

I could easily step in through the company channels and get this woman fired to teach her a lesson as my niece is a hard worker and is only 18 so to treat her like this is terrible. I am tempted to nuke this manager over the whole incident but I generally try to keep neutral and have only fired two people ever for one for stealing and the second idiot for crashing a company car taken without permission while DUI.

The only bit of regulations that might help, she had to have asked 21 days before hand and not have received a reply.

The Organisation of Working Time Act provides that you may ask your employer at least 21 days before a public holiday, which of the alternatives will apply. If your employer fails to respond at least 14 days before the public holiday, you are entitled to take the actual public holiday as a paid day off.

Apart from that there is no law to cover it and if she is rostered in she has to work.

You are the one on a power trip and you cannot just get someone fired, there are procedures to follow and the manager has done nothing wrong, the only thing you would be doing is nuking your own career

Sephiroth_dude

Your neice sounds spoilt......stay out of it,you cant get someone fired just because they said your neice could'nt have the weekend off,its illegal and wrong.

NinjaTruncs

if she always works bank holidays they would be considered part of her working week. The manager would have arranged the schedule around this fact. if your niece only asked for the day off yesterday or the day before the manager is correct to refuse as she was not given enough notice.

As for firing this lady becasue of this, i think you need to get a grip, take off the blinkers about this being your niece, would you feel so strongly if the employee wasn't your niece.

two other things i have learnt in my experience, kids always lean a story in their favour, if they get in a fight or into trouble their version of the story always favours their side of things so take her account of the story with a pinch of salt. The second is the female managers in retail are nearly always on a power trip, it's like they feel they have something to prove and the only want they can do it is by being a bitch.

basically Sephiroth_dude +1

mumhaabu

My niece had it specifically requested off for over a month, what aggrieved me was the manner in which she was spoken to and told in no uncertain terms "You better come the f*ck into work" and other expletives which were used reducing my niece to tears.

The fact is she normally works bank holidays because everytime she asks she is refused for over a year now. I have already made moves within my role to caution the said lady and have seen to it that her wages drop significantly over the issue and that she loses the fleet car.

The fact is I invested every penny I had into this alongside my business partner (whose other partner I since bought out). Basically in the words of Steve Staunton I'm the gaffer and if I want my family treated nicely I will have it this way.

And yes I am on my own power trip but only because people have f*cked with me, all I ask for is respect and honesty heck our company pays far more than our competitors and yet lower management treats my family like crap, if it was elsewhere she'd be sacked on the spot. Motto of the story don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Money + Power = Even more power. Capitalism FTW!

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mumhaabu wrote: »

My niece had it specifically requested off for over a month, what aggrieved me was the manner in which she was spoken to and told in no uncertain terms "You better come the f*ck into work" and other expletives which were used reducing my niece to tears.

The fact is she normally works bank holidays because everytime she asks she is refused for over a year now. I have already made moves within my role to caution the said lady and have seen to it that her wages drop significantly over the issue and that she loses the fleet car.

The fact is I invested every penny I had into this alongside my business partner (whose other partner I since bought out). Basically in the words of Steve Staunton I'm the gaffer and if I want my family treated nicely I will have it this way.

And yes I am on my own power trip but only because people have f*cked with me, all I ask for is respect and honesty heck our company pays far more than our competitors and yet lower management treats my family like crap, if it was elsewhere she'd be sacked on the spot. Motto of the story don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Money + Power = Even more power. Capitalism FTW!

You need to take a more professional attitude.
Your whinging because you don't like the way your niece is being treated and you are threatening to treat a member of staff in an even worse manner.

Note the above is just my opinion and advise on the matter, please don't use your fantastic power to get me.

nojunkmaill

You sound like a complete A*Hole!

It's your nieces word against her boss. If your niece knows your power she is probably playing on it.

Her boss has a job to do, a shop to run and she needs the staff in to acheive this.

If I was you I'd be telling my niece to look elsewhere for work - Spoilt little Bi*ch

Vokes

Also, what's in your niece's employment contract regarding working bank holidays?

eth0_

nojunkmaill wrote: »

You sound like a complete A*Hole!

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eth0_

mumhaabu wrote: »

I could easily step in through the company channels and get this woman fired to teach her a lesson as my niece is a hard worker and is only 18 so to treat her like this is terrible.

I am astounded that you own your own company with subsidiaries and A> don't know your contracts or local laws about working bank holidays B> Think you can try to ruin someone's life because they wouldn't give your precious niece a bank holiday off!

If it's a retail job it's probably in her contract that she will have to work bank holidays with double time if she is scheduled to work on that day anyway. The law states you either get a day off on the bank holiday, or a day in lieu or double pay for working it.

If you fired this woman I would hope she would take you to the cleaners at an employment tribunal.

I would suggest you brush up on employment law and that your niece grows up and maybe gets a job in the real world where she doesn't have the security of running to auntie/uncle when her manager inconveniences her by scheduling her to work a bank holiday.

nesf

The exact days someone gets off are at the discretion of the employer. Generally speaking if someone's chosen dates can be given to them without creating a lot of hassle for the employer they are given to them because it generates good will, is good for morale and not giving them can earn an employer a pissed off employee for a few weeks which is a pain to deal with. Your niece isn't entitled to a bank holiday off though. It doesn't matter how far in advance she asks for it, it's still down to her manager and the staffing needs of the day.

Retail, like restaurant work and pub work, can be very awkward in terms of not getting "normal" days off work. You just have to suck it up or go find a job in a standard 9-5 job if it's a real issue for you.