Equitable stroke control query

stevire

Could anyone explain the equitable stroke control in relation to GUI regulations?

I know its used in Stableford, but does the net double bogey come into play for stroke play? Will you find this clause in competitions?

PhilipMarlowe

For sure, you can have a disaster one one or two holes in strokeplay, even so far as to not finish the hole, but the rest of your card can be assessed for handicap purposes (only) and you are given a theoretical net double bogey on that hole.
In the competition you will be DQ'ed for the non-return...

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PhilipMarlowe

For example, last year in a strokeplay medal, I had a 7 on a par 4 (first ball OB, bogey with 2nd ball).
This was reduced to a 6 for handicap purposes and that extra .1 that I was reduced caused me to lose a full shot from 4 to 3 so it definitely comes into play

Mister Sifter

Licksy wrote: »

For example, last year in a strokeplay medal, I had a 7 on a par 4 (first ball OB, bogey with 2nd ball).
This was reduced to a 6 for handicap purposes and that extra .1 that I was reduced caused me to lose a full shot from 4 to 3 so it definitely comes into play

I wondered about this recently. Shot 3 over with a triple bogey a few weeks back but didn't get cut the 0.1 extra. Surely the computer should have did this automatically?

PhilipMarlowe

Was the triple on a hole you had a shot on?
In my case I didn't have a shot on the hole (index 8) so mine was reduced down to a net double bogey, hence the extra reduction.
If you had a shot on the hole, your triple is already a net double, so no change

Goodluck2me

this exact situation came up with my group today, and apparently Licksy is exactly correct.
Seems like a great rule, as for people wanting to get cut they can be, and for people willing to dodge their proper rating by finishing with a 20 or w/e can't do so.

stevire

With this rule, presuming its not a competition, does it mean that the max shots on the hole for the given player is his net double bogey?

i.e Par 4 (Index 1), player off a handicap of 9, his nett double bogey is 7 can he not do any worse in that given hole by losing further strokes?

Also, if in a competition what would be the outcome of the above hole at the end of the round?

Cheers for the replies...

Niall09

I think this comes over "Clause 19.8 Adjust"

PhilipMarlowe

For handicap purposes, the maximum is the net double bogey.... but not in terms of overall position in the competition.

Let's say you are a scratch golfer, 4 under for 17 holes and a 10 on the other hole...
In the competition you have a 74 so no prize but for handicap adjustment the 10 is reduced to a 6, so effectively 2 under for handicap purposes and cut by .2 (.1 per shot)
Taking more shots on the hole will affect your placing in the tournament but not your handicap.

I don't understand what you mean (stevire) when you say "presuming it's not a competition".... This adjustment is purely for handicapping purposes so it has to be a competition.

stevire

Sorry, in relation to "presuming its not a competition" I should've explained more... I was referring to society golf where GUI doesn't really come in to play. That clears it up though, cheers!