Disabled Parking Spaces

melbourne

I live on a small road with parking space for roughly 24 cars. Of these 24 spaces 3 are marked in yellow for disabled drivers. All residents need to have a parking disc, however many don't bother and seem to get away with it. The problem with the disabled spaces is that two of the car owners/drivers are not disabled in anyway, so I presume they get the disc on behalf of their spouse. The problem is parking is at a premium everynight, these two people are guaranteed their spaces, even though their 'disabled spouses' seldom leave the house. Is this fair?

The third space is used by a wheel chair user, however this person usually finishes work early and is home before the rush for parking so they take a normal on steet parking space and dispaly their disabled parking permit. This persons relation then returns later on and parks their car in the disabled parking place displaying no permit of any kind. I think this is bad form but am not quite sure what to do.

Sometimes I just count myself lucky that I do not need to avail of a disabled parking space and let it go but other nights I get so bloody annoyed.

The fact that standard permit parking is not enforced is also a problem, as I pay for my disk every year but for those who don't pay, nothing happens.

Any Ideas?

melbourne

melbourne wrote: »

I live on a small road with parking space for roughly 24 cars. Of these 24 spaces 3 are marked in yellow for disabled drivers. All residents need to have a parking disc, however many don't bother and seem to get away with it. The problem with the disabled spaces is that two of the car owners/drivers are not disabled in anyway, so I presume they get the disc on behalf of their spouse. The problem is parking is at a premium everynight, these two people are guaranteed their spaces, even though their 'disabled spouses' seldom leave the house. Is this fair?

The point of a disabled persons parking space is that it wider, to facilitate getting in and out of the car with whatever aids are neccessary.

Considering that this space is outside these peoples house, and they may need to transport their family member at anytime.

I don't see what the problem is.

Frankly I'd key the other persons car.

RobbieMc

Hi,

The parking permit for disabled drivers or passengers can be displayed on the vehicle allowing the car to be parked anywere and not pay for that parking space.
i.e in dublin or Kildare, on street parking is free for those who display a disabled permit.
If there are people parking in disabled spots without a permit, report it to your local authority or to the Garda.

RobbieMc

RobbieMc wrote: »

Hi,

The parking permit for disabled drivers or passengers can be displayed on the vehicle allowing the car to be parked anywere and not pay for that parking space.
i.e in dublin or Kildare, on street parking is free for those who display a disabled permit.
If there are people parking in disabled spots without a permit, report it to your local authority or to the Garda.

No, a permit only entitles you to free parking in a disabled persons spot.

Also I think this person is in Austrailia.

cyclopath2001

moonbaby wrote:

No, a permit only entitles you to free parking in a disabled persons spot.

From time to time, I drive a disabled relative and finding a suitable parking space with enough room to arrange the transfer to the wheelchair can be a problem. Being able to go shopping, is a great enhancement to the life of a mostly housebound person. From what we've seen, especially at supermarkets, we're sure there is abuse of the privilege. My relative is terrified the pass will be stolen and keeps it in her house when not in use.

Rules can vary from authority to authority and the rules for private parking are set by the owners of the car parks.

Here are the Dublin City Council rules:

Parking with a Disabled Person's Parking Permit:

If your vehicle displays a Disabled Person's Parking Permit you have special permissions for parking in Dublin City. This includes:

You can park in a disabled person's parking space
You can park in an ordinary parking space for free
You can park in any Pay & Display or Permit Parking space free of charge and you can stay there for an unlimited time.

Note: All vehicles displaying a Disabled Person's Parking Permit must follow normal road safety and parking guidelines.

melbourne

Thanks for the input guys, Cyclopath has helped put things in perspective:
Here are the Dublin City Council rules:
Quote:
Parking with a Disabled Person's Parking Permit:

If your vehicle displays a Disabled Person's Parking Permit you have special permissions for parking in Dublin City. This includes:

You can park in a disabled person's parking space
You can park in an ordinary parking space for free
You can park in any Pay & Display or Permit Parking space free of charge and you can stay there for an unlimited time.

Note: All vehicles displaying a Disabled Person's Parking Permit must follow normal road safety and parking guidelines.
__So a phonecall to parking enforcement should help with the problem of the joker who comes home late and has a disabled spot waiting for them even though they don't have a permit , particulary because they have a tendancy to move the permit from car to car to suit themselves. Whats also annoying is the cars/residents that won't purchase a regular parking permit are all the biggest and most expensive. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

biko

melbourne wrote: »

The fact that standard permit parking is not enforced is also a problem, as I pay for my disk every year but for those who don't pay, nothing happens.

It's €10 per year isn't it?

melbourne

I wish it was only €10.00...Its surprising how a seemingly trivial matter like parking becomes such an issue when you can't find any,

The standard fee for a resident’s parking permit is:

• €40 for 1 year and €70 for 2 years if you live in a house.
• €400 for 1 year or €750 for 2 years if your building contains more than 4 housing units, has off-road parking available to it and is located in a low demand zone (includes converted houses and apartment blocks).
• €400 for 1 year or €750 for 2 years if your building is a converted house, contains more than 4 housing units, has off-road parking available to it and is located in a heavy demand zone
• Source DCC.

Eoin

melbourne wrote: »

The problem with the disabled spaces is that two of the car owners/drivers are not disabled in anyway, so I presume they get the disc on behalf of their spouse. The problem is parking is at a premium everynight, these two people are guaranteed their spaces, even though their 'disabled spouses' seldom leave the house. Is this fair?

Do you know for a fact that their spouses are disabled, or are you assuming that because the two drivers who have the permits don't appear to have a disability?

melbourne

Yes both spouses are bona fide with their disability. I suppose the annoying thing is whenever they leave the house the driver pulls out of their space, turns around at the end of the road and then just stops in the middle of the road outside their house, which really defeats the purpose of the space being close to the house, maybe I should run with the fact that sure bugger it if its a bit of an annoyance and count myself lucky that I don't need use of one, however the other joker who holds the disabled spot open for their partner who comes home later (100% able bodied) is a different story.

Anan1

melbourne wrote: »

Yes both spouses are bona fide with their disability. I suppose the annoying thing is whenever they leave the house the driver pulls out of their space, turns around at the end of the road and then just stops in the middle of the road outside their house, which really defeats the purpose of the space being close to the house, maybe I should run with the fact that sure bugger it if its a bit of an annoyance and count myself lucky that I don't need use of one, however the other joker who holds the disabled spot open for their partner who comes home later (100% able bodied) is a different story.

Agreed. I'd report the illegally-parked one, and just accept the others.

biko

melbourne wrote: »

I wish it was only €10.00...

That's what I pay. Thought it was the same all over.

iq187

melbourne wrote: »

I live on a small road with parking space for roughly 24 cars. Of these 24 spaces 3 are marked in yellow for disabled drivers. All residents need to have a parking disc, however many don't bother and seem to get away with it. The problem with the disabled spaces is that two of the car owners/drivers are not disabled in anyway, so I presume they get the disc on behalf of their spouse. The problem is parking is at a premium everynight, these two people are guaranteed their spaces, even though their 'disabled spouses' seldom leave the house. Is this fair?

The third space is used by a wheel chair user, however this person usually finishes work early and is home before the rush for parking so they take a normal on steet parking space and dispaly their disabled parking permit. This persons relation then returns later on and parks their car in the disabled parking place displaying no permit of any kind. I think this is bad form but am not quite sure what to do.

Sometimes I just count myself lucky that I do not need to avail of a disabled parking space and let it go but other nights I get so bloody annoyed.

The fact that standard permit parking is not enforced is also a problem, as I pay for my disk every year but for those who don't pay, nothing happens.

Any Ideas?

No shortage of people who think they are more important than everyone else. I suggest you get up in the middle of the night and spray paint "asshole parking" on their vehicle.

corktina

My late Ma got a permit which I could use when carrying her (In the UK) and I could park ANYWHERE where there was loading permitted, largely on double yellows.I could also access pedestrian only areas and other restricted zones.

MarkoC

You can get the disk (disabilty one) with hepatite C in Ireland and you will not see either the driver has it or not.

-Chris-

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