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Channel 4 rapped over 'great Global Warming Swindle'

  • 22-07-2008 1:34am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭


    Loads of people including eminent scientists brought a complanit against the programme which was, thankfully, not upheld.



    I have studied weather and climate for a long time. It is a hobby of mine. C02 (that you always hear about) has never, and will never be a driver of climate. You are all being fed a pup. The world has cooled since 2001. You wont hear about that though! You also wont hear that Artic ice is well advanced on last year. You wont hear anything against 'Global Warming' in the mainstream media. You are being fed an excuse for tax increases and something that is driven fundamentaly by hard core environmentalists. I am very happy this facist attempt to censor the other factual side of this argument has failed. Every 'scientist' that believes in 'Global Warming' is compromised......they are paid to believe it. If they dont they lose their job. This is a massive con job these people are engaged in and I hope you all realise that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    Your ma is a massive con job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Joe Cool


    There is a direct correlation between a no vote for the Lisbon and melting ice caps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    oh right it is a stupid time back home.

    but I do unfortunately agree with the sentiments of the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    But Ofcom did rule against them. They were found not to live up to their obligations of impartiality

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7517101.stm

    Some of the scientists who brought the complaints were actually in the 'documentary' and felt they were misrepresented.

    Anyone who thinks that trying to break our dependence on fossil fuels is a bad idea is clearly a short sighted fool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    i thought the debate these days was on climate change, and not global warming.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    longshanks wrote: »
    i thought the debate these days was on climate change, and not global warming.


    Good point - why do you think that is? - I will tell you why - they talked bullsh*t for the last 10 years - now temperature trends go against them - its no longer 'warming' its 'climate change'. The Earth has always naturally changed its climate. They want you to believe you are responsible. They intentionally ignore the force of nature at your expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Good point - why do you think that is? - I will tell you why - They want you to believe you are responsible.

    ok fair enough, i'll take the blame. global warming\cooling and the **** summer are all my fault

    darkman2 wrote: »
    They intentionally ignore the force of nature at your expense.

    well now they're just a big bunch of meanies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    darkman2 wrote: »
    They intentionally ignore the force of nature at your expense.

    this is contrary to everything I read as wide eyed youngster on it. they do acknowledge the normal fluctuations, but what most have pointed to was the apparent rate of acceleration in change.

    this is pointless anyway. fossil fuels are running out. people's health is deteriorating, partly due to pollution in cities. doesn't matter what line you to, the same thing's going to happen either way.

    just as long as we don't become dependent on bio-fuels. now THERE's the information problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    this is contrary to everything I read as wide eyed youngster on it. they do acknowledge the normal fluctuations, but what most have pointed to was the apparent rate of acceleration in change.

    this is pointless anyway. fossil fuels are running out. people's health is deteriorating, partly due to pollution in cities. doesn't matter what line you to, the same thing's going to happen either way.

    just as long as we don't become dependent on bio-fuels. now THERE's the information problem.



    CO2 CANNOT DRIVE CLIMATE - FACT. Yet this is what these media freindly mugs constantly come out with. Look it up and you will quickly find out why!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Weidii


    Yeah, I study Earth and Ocean science and I was a wee bit shocked to hear one of the lecturers say that global warming was a load of bull.


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    just as long as we don't become dependent on bio-fuels. now THERE's the information problem.
    We can already thank them for much of the rising prices of food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    darkman2 wrote: »
    CO2 CANNOT DRIVE CLIMATE - FACT. Yet this is what these media freindly mugs constantly come out with. Look it up and you will quickly find out why!

    what prevents you from linking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    what prevents you from linking?
    asphyxiation from concentrated levels of C02 apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭anthony4335


    All I know is that I haven't seen a desent summer in 11 years, Global warming is a load of bull, at least the name is, as it gives the impression that things will get hotter. Where it appears that the weather has just become more unstable, and what ever the region does not need more of it gets, sun in the arid regions and rain in the milder climates and so on. Global warming really sucks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    I agree with monkeyfudge. Whether climate change is due to CO2 or not it is a good idea to become less dependent on fossil fuels and more aware of what we're putting out in the world.

    They will run out you know and where will be then? Living in a jungle with monkeyfudge ruling as king of the monkeys and then we'll know all about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Global warming my hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    watna wrote: »
    I agree with monkeyfudge. Whether climate change is due to CO2 or not it is a good idea to become less dependent on fossil fuels and more aware of what we're putting out in the world.

    They will run out you know and where will be then? Living in a jungle with monkeyfudge ruling as king of the monkeys and then we'll know all about it!
    He won't be king of the jungle.
    He be my bitch and will be sucking on my lion sized loins.

    David Attenborough said global warming is a load of crap. I believe him because he was always interesting in 6 channel land when I was a kid.

    That and the fact that climate change is a naturally occurring thing.
    10,000 years ago this little Island of ours was covered in ice. Now it's one of the most pleasant places on the planet to live. Never too hot or too cold. But I can't get a tan. STFU nancy boy.
    2,000 years ago the sea of Galilea regularly froze over (which is where the whole Jesus walking on water story comes from). Now it's a really hot place and Peter Griffin was right when he said that you can't tell the difference between and Israeli and a Palestinian.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Look OP, Al Gore was right about ManBearPig so we HAVE to take his word on global warming. We have to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Tbh, I like how I said it better Terry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    people's health is deteriorating, partly due to pollution in cities. doesn't matter what line you to, the same thing's going to happen either way.
    Globally, people are living longer, healthier, happier lives than they have ever done in the history of our species.

    It's in the media's interests to tell us that we're all in imminent danger of death and chaos, when nothing could be further from the truth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Loads of people including eminent scientists brought a complanit against the programme which was, thankfully, not upheld.
    Pighead just googled "eminent scientists" and this fella just popped up.
    http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/03/14/petercullen_wideweb__470x372,0.jpg

    If thats what an eminent scientist looks like then Pigheads gonna be ignoring everything those fat fcukers say from now on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    lolz.

    This lad isn't any better.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Loads of people including eminent scientists brought a complanit against the programme which was, thankfully, not upheld.

    Linky?
    Or are you just on another ill founded rant... again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    darkman2 wrote: »
    This is a massive con job these people are engaged in and I hope you all realise that.
    That's an inconvenient truth.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    They wouldnt do the same in terms of implicating Gore's nonsense.
    Completely right Darkman. An absolute load of total and absolute nonsense driven by scientific misrepresentation and no amount of green crustys on bikes protesting at a petrol station is going to change that.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    darkman2 wrote: »
    I have studied weather and climate for a long time. It is a hobby of mine.

    Well in that case I'll be sure to take your word over people who have actually studied it professionally. I mean - you're posting on an internet forum and providing valid links to back up all your 'facts'. How could an actual scientist compete with the mighty power of an internet amateur hobbyist like yourself?

    I sir am convinced. Well done.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Well in that case I'll be sure to take your word over people who have actually studied it professionally. I mean - you're posting on an internet forum and providing valid links to back up all your 'facts'. How could an actual scientist compete with the mighty power of an internet amateur hobbyist like yourself?

    I sir am convinced. Well done.

    Wow. Thank god for PROFESSIONAL SCIENTISTS. Never gotten anything wrong have they? Or accepted lies and touted them on harming others. Or participated in studies where funding is shady. Or skewed metrics to get the desired results.
    Science be praised!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,306 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Why would Al Gore lie to us??? WHY??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Well in that case I'll be sure to take your word over people who have actually studied it professionally. I mean - you're posting on an internet forum and providing valid links to back up all your 'facts'. How could an actual scientist compete with the mighty power of an internet amateur hobbyist like yourself?
    One of the cornerstones of the whole climate change movement - the idea that temperatures have been increasing for the last 30 years - was completely collapsed by an amateur hobbyist.
    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070815/nasa_blogger_070815/20070815?hub=SciTech

    One big problem that science always struggles with is in the grey areas such as climate change, scientists can be so eager to find evidence which supports their claim, that they forget to look for alternative theories which explain their evidence or explain any "changes".
    This has been especially true where Governments have poured billions of euro into research into "why" our climate is changing, despite the fact that is has yet to be proven that our climate is changing in any historically significant way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    oh right it is a stupid time back home.

    but I do unfortunately agree with the sentiments of the OP.
    ditto
    even still oil wont last forever so we will need somthing to replace that oil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    I reckon one of Brian Cowens farts could melt an ice cap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Heathen


    I Knew it!!!! i knew it was the government!!! SCUMBAGS!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

    its always them!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Climate Expert


    Its great to see more and more people who aren't buying this global warming bull****.

    Heres a nice article on these dangerous enviromentalists. Drop the enviro and what do you get?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/15/climatechange?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    nmental?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Climate Expert


    nmental?
    No you get mentalists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    seamus wrote: »
    Globally, people are living longer, healthier, happier lives than they have ever done in the history of our species.

    It's in the media's interests to tell us that we're all in imminent danger of death and chaos, when nothing could be further from the truth.

    maybe. but in general it's difficult to say this with certainty, as we obviously don't know when the current generations are going to kick the bucket. but i've seen it suggested in more than one place that the current crop of toddlers may be the first to lead shorter lives than their parents generation.


    secondly, on the 'happier' bit, i thought the evidence pointed to lesser developed countries actually being happier.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    No you get mentalists.

    A climate expert should know that when you take enviro away from environmental you get nmental!
    :P:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Climate Expert


    A climate expert should know that when you take enviro away from environmental you get nmental!
    :P:D:D
    I do, but did I say to take it away from environmental? No I said take it away from enviromentalist. Use your head slowcoach.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Wow. Thank god for PROFESSIONAL SCIENTISTS. Never gotten anything wrong have they? Or accepted lies and touted them on harming others. Or participated in studies where funding is shady. Or skewed metrics to get the desired results.
    Science be praised!!!!

    Exactly.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    enviromentalists.
    QED buddy.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Climate Expert


    QED buddy.:D
    Game set and match, me.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Look again.....
    Think about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Climate Expert


    Look again.....
    Think about it.
    The typo? Yes, I'm well aware of it.
    Please don't bother correcting the spelling/typos in my future posts. You're not my editor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    A climate expert should know that when you take enviro away from environmental you get nmental!
    :P:D:D
    Well played. :)

    I'm off to go to work in my usual enviros.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Drop the enviro and what do you get?


    No need to get tetchy. You did ask me to.
    :D:p:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    The typo? Yes, I'm well aware of it.
    Please don't bother correcting the spelling/typos in my future posts. You're not my editor.
    Listen pal, it's time to suck it up and admit the good doctor outfoxed and outsmarted you. You engaged in a battle with bollocko and came out 2nd best. No shame in that but what there is shame in is your refusal to admit defeat.

    You're like a bold dog who shits out his dinner on the carpet in front of his owner and then denies it was him. Which is apt seeing as your username is an anagram of Excrete Rectal Pet Mix.

    Now apologise to the doctor and be on your way. Shoo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Good one Dr. Bollocko :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    An absolute load of total and absolute nonsense driven by scientific misrepresentation ....
    The Great Global Warming Swindle? Absolutely.
    Or participated in studies where funding is shady. Or skewed metrics to get the desired results.
    Examples?
    darkman2 wrote: »
    Loads of people including eminent scientists brought a complanit against the programme which was, thankfully, not upheld.
    Yes it was. Ofcom ruled that the “documentary” breached rules on impartiality and fairness:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jul/22/channel4.ofcom1?gusrc=rss&feed=media
    darkman2 wrote: »
    The world has cooled since 2001.
    Prove it.
    darkman2 wrote: »
    You also wont hear that Artic ice is well advanced on last year.
    You obviously haven’t looked very hard:
    http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/02/15/arctic-ice.html

    However, there is little cause for optimism. Much of the “expanded” ice is very thin, “young” ice, which may well melt again this summer:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Arctic_Sea_Ice_Age2008.png

    To suggest that the trend of arctic ice melting is reversing is utter nonsense.
    darkman2 wrote: »
    Every 'scientist' that believes in 'Global Warming' is compromised......they are paid to believe it. If they dont they lose their job.
    Prove it.
    darkman2 wrote: »
    CO2 CANNOT DRIVE CLIMATE - FACT.
    Prove it.

    This post may also be of interest:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=53683760&postcount=38


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