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Meath WTF

  • 19-07-2008 8:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭


    What on earth happened in Limerick. Has anyone seen the game. That is pretty atrocious by their standards. Although I am a Dub I want to see a strong Meath as it is good for Leinster football. Going from an AI Semi-Final to that is a massive drop. Thoughts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Have to say I was astounded when I heard that result. After getting to the AI semi-final last year I though they would be contenders to go all the way this year. Buy maybe we are not giving Limerick enough credit.
    They ran Cork close remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    lukin wrote: »
    Have to say I was astounded when I heard that result. After getting to the AI semi-final last year I though they would be contenders to go all the way this year. Buy maybe we are not giving Limerick enough credit.
    They ran Cork close remember.

    You might be right there, Limerick could be stronger than we all think. Munster needs a third team for the future as well.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    I thought it must have been a mistake when I saw the score.
    Ouch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭robo


    I was watching the scores on teletext and they were 3 points for ages when Limerick had a few goals under their belt and a lot of points...would be interested in reading more about the match!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭tommy249


    Just in the door from the match. Limerick played some excellent football and have been the most underestimated team in the country in my opinion. They should have beaten Cork in the Munster Semi. Leading by 3 points in injury time and they let in 2 goals in the last minute to lose. Cork went on to win Munster!! Limerick were leading by 20 POINTS at one stage tonight and took the foot off the pedal in the last 10 min to allow Meath get 4 quick goals. Ian Ryan for Limerick is a player to watch out for. Scored 3-7 tonight. John Galvin in Mid field has to be one of the top, if not thr top mid fielders in the country. Saying that Meath were shocking tonight. Gearathy came on at half time and barely touched the ball.
    Well done Limerick. Hopefully now ye will get the credit ye deserve


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    tommy249 wrote: »
    Just in the door from the match. Limerick played some excellent football and have been the most underestimated team in the country in my opinion. They should have beaten Cork in the Munster Semi. Leading by 3 points in injury time and they let in 2 goals in the last minute to lose. Cork went on to win Munster!! Limerick were leading by 20 POINTS at one stage tonight and took the foot off the pedal in the last 10 min to allow Meath get 4 quick goals. Ian Ryan for Limerick is a player to watch out for. Scored 3-7 tonight. John Galvin in Mid field has to be one of the top, if not thr top mid fielders in the country. Saying that Meath were shocking tonight. Gearathy came on at half time and barely touched the ball.
    Well done Limerick. Hopefully now ye will get the credit ye deserve

    Thanks for the report. It must be worrying conceding 6 goals in the last ten minutes in 2 games though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    In fairness, Meath were badly exposed by a poor Cork team in the Semi Final Last year. Plus the draw was kind to them. Meath are ordinary, however, to be 20 points in arrears against any team is a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Het-Field wrote: »
    In fairness, Meath were badly exposed by a poor Cork team in the Semi Final Last year. Plus the draw was kind to them. Meath are ordinary, however, to be 20 points in arrears against any team is a joke.

    Had a bet on Limerick. I thought Meath where over rated last year, Tyrone should have taken them but how and ever, this year was their chance to prove themselves.

    Thought it was going to be a 3/4 point game at most. When was the last time Limerick scored 4 goals in football? And yes, Limerick together with Fermanagh must be the 2 most under rated teams in Ireland. Both very rarely lose by much.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭tommy249


    And yes, Limerick together with Fermanagh must be the 2 most under rated teams in Ireland. Both very rarely lose by much.[/quote]

    Quote of the night. And Andy Lee just won the boxing in UL. Great night for Limerick Sport!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭tommy249


    Thanks for the report. It must be worrying conceding 6 goals in the last ten minutes in 2 games though.

    While that is a valid point, Limerick lead by 20 points for about 15mins before Meath got 4 goals. When you lead by 20 points for in any game for 15 mins its only inevitable that you take your foot off the pedal. In fairness, the Limerick defence played a stormer tonight - with the exception of the goals!!!! Its rare that you can say a defence played a stormer after letting in 4 goals!!

    An interesting point to note aswell is that Limerick lost Stephen kelly and Padraic Browne within the first 20 mins of the first half and they are 2 of Limerick top players


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Limerick really are one of the most underrated teams in the country.Limerick dominated everywhere at midfield with Galvin and Donovan, at the backs with Mc Carthy ,as usual playing a blinder, and Ryan was just sensational!

    Limerick deserved to win the match against Cork and honestly that team I saw playing tonight would have had no problem beating Kerry in a Munster final,we almost got them a few years back! Meath were exceptionally poor but Limerick played some excellent football.
    The final score line really doesnt show just how much Limerick dominated. Id say It was a good 20 mins into the second half before Meath scored after it being 2-06 to 0-3 at half time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    What on earth happened in Limerick. Has anyone seen the game. That is pretty atrocious by their standards
    Pretty atrocious?? It wasn't London they were playing!! A team will only play as well as the opposition lets it. I'm sick and tired of Limerick not getting the credit they deserve. When we play well, its not that we played well, its that the opposition played bad. Give me a break will you!
    lukin wrote: »
    Have to say I was astounded when I heard that result. After getting to the AI semi-final last year I though they would be contenders to go all the way this year. Buy maybe we are not giving Limerick enough credit. They ran Cork close remember.
    With all due respect, if you were ''astounded'' by tonights result, then you obviously have had your head buried in the sand for the last few years.

    A good few of this Limerick side were part of the team in '03 and '04 when they were a kick of a ball away from winning the Munster championship. They've lost a lot of valuable players in the meantime either through retirement (Muiris Gavin, John Quane, Damien Reidy) or to the hurlers (Stephen Lucey, Conor Fitzgerald, Mike O'Brien, Mark O'Riordan). The last couple of years has been a slow rebuilding process, they have brought a whole posse of youngsters onto the panel (Ian Ryan, Ger Collins, etc) and have blended them with the older rearguard of Stephen Kelly, Stephen Lavin, etc. It was going to take time, but finally they are really beginning to gel, and Mickey Ned's ethos and work ethic is shining through. I am really glad that the county board kept him on this year, becos the team under him has always tried to play an entertaining open brand of football.

    The Limerick performance tonight was scintilating, and I do not say that likely. This is no bad Meath side. But they were made to look bad tonight because Limerick were simply too good for them. The nine point winning margin flattered the Royals in the end, because in truth it should have been a good deal more. And remember, Limerick lost two of their best players to injury before half time, Stephen Kelly and Padraig Browne.

    Every single Limerick player vied for man of the match, Johnny McCarthy, as good a full back as you will see, was awesome. Shane Gallagher superglued himself to Cian Ward. Stephen Lavin lorded it at centre back, i lost count how many attacks he started, he must have been involved in 8 or 9 scores. John Galvin and Jim Donovan dominated midfield, the former had been a class act for several years now, surely one of the top ten midfielders in the country? his basketball skills always come in handy. And his goal, something like 20 passes leading up to it? If Kerry scored a goal like it, Spillane would crowing from the rooftops!! :cool:

    Seanie Buckley is hugely underrated at half forward, and James Ryan kept the ball superbly well at centre forward. The Limerick full line, although wasteful at time, was a constant threat, messrs Crowley and Collins worked hard and chipped in with vital points. But star of the show had to be Ian Ryan - will another player score 3-7 again this year? Every time he got the ball you sensed something would happen, either he would score himself or set someone else up, he is such an intelliegent player, in terms of his movement. And his kicking is superb. I'm slightly biased since he is a relation of mine, but i don't care, he was different class tonight. Different class. Also credit the subs, O'Dwyer, Cooke and Murphy, they all played their part, and Limerick's flow was uninterruped despite the injuries to key players.

    As for Meath, they were just not at the races. Farrell and Ward worked hard but they weren't helped by some very static team mates. Joe Sheridan took his two goals very well, and you have to give credit to them for not throwing in the towell. It shows they had some pride at least, although i think the Limerick backs were on their knees for the last 10 minutes - it takes a lot of toil and effort to restrict a team of Meaths calibre to just 3 points inside 60 minutes.

    I think that Meath have both the media and themselves to blame for tonights loss. I had to laugh at the 1/7 odds for a Meath win, i thought they were ludricrious, considering they were away from home against a team who outplayed Cork only a month previously at the same venue. 4/1 for a home win was overly generous and i gleefully stuck a few quid on Limerick :D And from talking to a few Meath fans, i gathered that they didn't seriously think Limerick could beat them, they were thinking a tough game maybe but a five or six point victory all the same. I feel that they treated Limerick with the same arrogance that Limerick treated Offaly last weekend. And just like Limerick hurlers were left on their arses last weekend, Meath footballers were left likewise this weekend. They did not anticipate the intensity with which Limerick would play. But us in Limerick did.

    Finally, i would love to meet that clown of a reporter who penned the match report on rte.ie. He described Limerick as ''the Shannonside no-hopers''. Where do RTE get these idiots from? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ddddd


    fantastic performance by Limerick last night.. Can't believe how well James Ryan played after playing the under 21 hurling match against tipp on thursday last!! Ian Ryan well scoring 3-07 says it all!! Lets hope they buid from this! Will be interesting to see the draw later tonight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Beached


    well done to Limerick, absolutly delighted for them and I dont think they are finished yet. Mickey Ned promised an All Ireland 1/4 final this year. Their build up has been so low key, and with very little TV coverage of any of their games sofar, future opponents dont know what to expect when they meet them. I really want to see Ian Ryan in action. Will RTE show more than a 2 min clip tonight????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭mm.ie


    simple as that. he was a good player but he lacks answers as a manager.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭curraghyid


    well done limerick will be the dark horse in this years qualifiers me thinks,Meath what can i say i have to be honest the scoreline surprised me it was going to be hard to come away with a result but that was a mauling. its all change for the royals i suspect they will take a long time to recover.the biggest downside is even less credible opposition in leinster for dublins training games for the all ireland series:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭sickpuppy32


    its on the news coyle has resigned
    bring back sean boylan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    grenache wrote: »

    With all due respect, if you were ''astounded'' by tonights result, then you obviously have had your head buried in the sand for the last few years.

    I didn't mean no disrespect as they say in The Sopranos, I was just surprised at the margin of victory. I thought Meath would win but not by much. I'm actually happy for Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Beached wrote: »
    I really want to see Ian Ryan in action. Will RTE show more than a 2 min clip tonight????

    Unfortunately they probably won't. Bizarre result though, and that's no disrespect to Limerick. I really didn't expect alot from Limerick this year, but this result will have everyone taking notice. They won't be treated lightly the next day that's for sure.

    Hard to know what to make of Meath. After showing alot of promise last year they're right back to square one after this result, and the likes of Fay, Geraghty and Crawford probably won't be seen in a Meath jersey again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,602 ✭✭✭patmac


    grenache wrote: »
    Pretty atrocious?? It wasn't London they were playing!! A team will only play as well as the opposition lets it. I'm sick and tired of Limerick not getting the credit they deserve. When we play well, its not that we played well, its that the opposition played bad. Give me a break will you!


    I hear you, anytime Westmeath win a game the opposition are rubbish. Delighted for Limerick I thought I heard on the radio that the Limerick manager was saying that they were aiming for an AI quarter Final. GL in the next round unless you draw Westmeath.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    while i thought meath would beat limerick , i was thinking they wouldnt come to much this year
    they were over rated last year , they were hammered by a very average cork team in the semi final and if you look at there team sheet on a player by player basis , there not that hot

    btw , im from meath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    patmac wrote: »
    I hear you, anytime Westmeath win a game the opposition are rubbish. Delighted for Limerick I thought I heard on the radio that the Limerick manager was saying that they were aiming for an AI quarter Final. GL in the next round unless you draw Westmeath.
    Thanks for that pat. Westmeath are a serious side too, i didn't fancy playing ye as our record against you is atrocious. There is never much between the sides but you lot always seem to pip us by a point or two! We are aiming to go as far as possible, and after tonights home draw against Kildare i believe we can at least make round 4 of the qualifiers. That said, the Lillywhites are waiting for us in the longrass, they've had a low key build up and we will have to put in another sterling performance to beat them.

    As for Westmeath, you've got the short straw in drawing Tyrone in Omagh. But anything can happen, Tyrone are not the same team they were a couple of years ago, and they are certainly beatable, as Louth showed in 2006. Had Glennon and co been a bit more accurate against Dublin in the semi, it would be Westmeath who would be Leinster Champions today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭lanod2407


    Jeckyll & Hyde ................ how can Limerick produce such diversely motivalted teams over 2 weekends - hurlers who cannot stay out of the pubs ....... it's official according to Richie Bennis on the front of the Limerick Leader last weekend ......... and footballers who are on a great roll ....... if only they could lose their recently adopted penchant for conceding several goals in the last 5 minutes of games!!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    Meath were played off the field in every position, they never looked up for it at all. I've never seen a team being given so much space on the ball. The Meath bench for the second half (manager, selectors etc) were right in front of us and they never moved off it once not even when the 4 goals were scored. They just sat there with their heads in their hands. Back to the drawing board me thinks. Will O'Rourke go for it this time does anyone think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    Why would O Rourke go for it, he would have to get out of his arm chair to do that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭robo


    Does anyone else not think that 4 managers resigning from this weekends games is as an utter shame???
    Perhaps this needs it's own thread.

    But what was there, 20 counties played this weekend and 20% of them lost their manager, that is a bit mad! One team is bound to lose, as one wins, so why is it that the losing team manager must either step down or perhaps be asked to step down?

    Are these 4 managers now going to shuffle between the teams that lost a manager, or are there good managers out there to fill these positions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭The Chessplayer


    Meath should appoint Geraghty as player manager. A born leader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭sickpuppy32


    yeah that would piss the dubs off big time, they hate GG, call him mr stella (or as its known in dublin stella artois - wife beater!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭AndyP


    mm.ie wrote: »
    simple as that. he was a good player but he lacks answers as a manager.....

    He was filthy, one of the nastiest I ever had the displeasure to watch. Still couldn't put a mark on Jayo though!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 tracto


    Het-Field wrote: »
    In fairness, Meath were badly exposed by a poor Cork team in the Semi Final Last year. Plus the draw was kind to them. Meath are ordinary, however, to be 20 points in arrears against any team is a joke.

    The draw was hardly kind to Meath last year in fairness. They had to beat Down, Galway and Tyrone to get to the semis. They also drew (and had it not been for some poor refereeing would have beaten) Dublin who were only just edged out by Kerry. Against Cork they just didnt get going, Cork got a lucky deflected goal and it was game over. That same "poor" Cork team beat Kerry a couple of weeks ago lest we forget.

    Meath have some real class in the forward line, farrell, sheridan, byrne, O'Rourke, Ward and Bray are as talented a bunch of players as there is around. Crawford in midfield is one of the most experienced players in the game, Murphy in goal should have been an all star last year, Reilly and King all have talent to burn as well. And as for Fay, the man is a legend. Fact is they didnt show up whatsoever. The one thing Meath used to have was guts and determination and thats the one thing Coyle was expected to bring back but there was none of it on show on Saturday. It was a complete embarassment. Even in the county amongst the supporters the hunger has disappeared, the attendances at all the matches for the last few years has been very poor. An All Ireland semi final and we couldnt even muster up more than 30k people. Not a good sign :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Arion Online


    It's a pity Meath are so poor at the moment because there is nothing like a Dublin V Meath match. No matter how poor either county is on any given year this match is always a belter. Coyle has done very little for Meath over the last few years but you have to blame the players. There forward line is briliant on paper but possibly are too full of themselves after beating Tyrone last year.

    I'm a Dublin supporter and honestly feel that it's a pity meath are so poor at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭The Chessplayer


    yeah that would piss the dubs off big time, they hate GG, call him mr stella (or as its known in dublin stella artois - wife beater!)

    To be honest, I think GG is well respected by Dubs fans. They just don't like him scoring against them which is understandable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭mousey007


    GG is pure class


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