Different File Counts

Malice

This is quite odd, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on it. I have my MP3s stored on an external drive and out of curiousity I wanted to see how many songs were actually there. Here's where it gets strange. Winamp reports that I have 21,676 according to it's playlist window. Windows search tells me I have 21,462, a command line search tells me I have 21,462 and lastly, Agent Ransack tells me I have 21,291.

Has anyone seen something like this before? The only thing I can think of is that I have some Polish, Russian and Ukranian music on there which might be confusing the applications with their exotic character sets.

Anti

Could be something to do with winamp and ransack accociating the folders as files or something like that. Or even thumbnail files. Strange one though.

Adam

Flush your Winamp library and import the tracks fresh, you may have duplicates, also if you play media once only it will somtimes store it in the library.

Malice

Anti wrote: »

Could be something to do with winamp and ransack accociating the folders as files or something like that. Or even thumbnail files. Strange one though.

I don't have any folders labelled as ".MP3" so it's not that. I did find a couple of .M3U files but having deleted them they made no difference to the Winamp file count.

Mirror wrote: »

Flush your Winamp library and import the tracks fresh, you may have duplicates, also if you play media once only it will somtimes store it in the library.

I don't use the Winamp Media Library. I'm too old-school for that . I just import files into the Playlist and away I go. There are duplicates in there but since they are individual files, they should be counted separately.

I did a test import into the Media Library just there and it reported 21,676 MP3s as well so at least Winamp is consistent with itself .

Standard Toaster

You 100% sure they're all mp3s?
Might have some wmas or m4a in the mix too?

Malice

The_Edge wrote: »

You 100% sure they're all mp3s?
Might have some wmas or m4a in the mix too?

There are .wma, .wav and .ogg files in there which probably explains the discrepancy between Winamp and the others but the searchs I ran were all for *.mp3. If I get around to it later I will remove some of the Cyrillic filenames and see if that affects the numbers returned.

These were the results from earlier:

Agent Ransack


Command Prompt


Windows Search

Malice

In case anyone is interested I finally got around to doing some tests on this. I copied a Russian album, a Ukrainian album and an American album to a folder and ran a search for all MP3s. In this case there are 30 MP3s which both Winamp and Windows report correctly. Agent Ransack on the other hand appears to have problems identifing the Ukranian MP3s at all and doesn't manage to display the filenames correctly for the Russian ones.



That in itself is odd because I thought Ukraine and Russia both shared the same Cyrillic alphabet. I have e-mailed the Agent Ransack developers with my findings so maybe they will be able to do something.

I guess the next exercise is to hunt down some Chinese, Korean and Arabian music and see what happens .

Cuddlesworth

malice_ wrote: »

I guess the next exercise is to hunt down some Chinese, Korean and Arabian music and see what happens .

1 year in flight school, a beard and a sudden hatred of "The West"?

ethernet

malice_ wrote: »

In case anyone is interested I finally got around to doing some tests on this. I copied a Russian album, a Ukrainian album and an American album to a folder and ran a search for all MP3s. In this case there are 30 MP3s which both Winamp and Windows report correctly. Agent Ransack on the other hand appears to have problems identifing the Ukranian MP3s at all and doesn't manage to display the filenames correctly for the Russian ones.



That in itself is odd because I thought Ukraine and Russia both shared the same Cyrillic alphabet. I have e-mailed the Agent Ransack developers with my findings so maybe they will be able to do something.

I guess the next exercise is to hunt down some Chinese, Korean and Arabian music and see what happens .

Ukrainian has a few different characters but they're both from Cyrllic. That's odd -- I'd expect to see that if you had those tracks on a Samba share but not on a local drive.

Malice

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

1 year in flight school, a beard and a sudden hatred of "The West"?

ethernet wrote: »

That's odd -- I'd expect to see that if you had those tracks on a Samba share but not on a local drive.

Originally I was running the search on an external drive connected through USB but yesterday's test was done on an internal drive as I had just created a temporary folder on my desktop. The computer is running Windows XP SP 2 for what it's worth.

It looks as if other applications also have trouble with Cyrillic as this is what WinRAR made of "01-Кибер поколение.mp3" when I added it to a RAR archive.



I suppose that's a topic for another thread however .

ethernet

I don't risk it any more -- just use English transliterations of the titles. The meta tags are usually read properly though, even on some super-cheap DVD players.