Pinarello Prince

feelyd

Hi, looking at buying a Pinarello Prince abroad, I thinking I'm getting a good deal but just wondering how much this bicyle is worth.

Any ideas anyone.
Here is the spec !

Frame Pinarello Prince Carbon

Fork Pinarello Onda FPX
Brake Campagnolo Record-D Skeleton
BrakeShift Campagnolo Record QS Ergopower
Crank Campagnolo Record CT
BottomBracket Campagnolo Ultra-Torque
FrontDerailleur Campagnolo Record QS
Cassette Campagnolo Record
RearDerailleur Campagnolo Record
Chain Campagnolo Record Ultra
Pedal SpeedPlay X/1
Headset Pinarello Integrated
Stem Deda Elementi Newton
Handlebar FSA K-Wing
HandlebarTape Stella Azzurra Eleganza
Cable Campagnolo Stainless
Housing Campagnolo Campagnolo
Seatpost Pinarello Carbon
Saddle Fizik Arione
Tire Michelin Pro Race 3
Tube Butyl Presta
FrontWheel Zipp 303 Clincher
RearWheel Zipp 303 PowerTap 2.4 Wireless Clincher
Skewer Salsa Stainless flip-off
RimTape Velox Cloth Rim Tape
RimTape Velox Cloth Rim Tape

Total Weight: 15.34 lbs</p>

blorg

Nice bike and a nice spec. New, at a very rough guess, around €7,000-8,000 for the bike, €250 for the pedals and an extra €1,000 or so for the Power Tap. Are you buying second-hand? Where from?

Chips Lovell

Hmmm, Prince, Zipps, Record and PowerTap, you're not doing it by half are you? 6K+, maybe 7K.

jwwie

answer = an a$$load of money. the frameset alone is $5000USD. the zipps would be over $2000USD. competitive cyclist has this listed at $7500USD so anything under that is a 'deal'.

that said, im surprised you're looking for a deal on a bike of this caliber and price. there many bikes well under this price that offer the same or better performance. hell, you could buy a custom frame for less.

obviously, the choice is yours but a large portion of the price relates to its exotic italian appeal imo. best of luck!

niceonetom

'kin 'ell! :eek:

the only people riding that bike should be being paid to by sponsors. how many years have you been a pro?

what's the deal you're being offered on it? and more importantly, by who? my nigerian-credit-transfer alarm is going off big time. are you buying from abroad (i.e. online) or in person while you're abroad (i.e in person)?

feelyd

Have a look on Alibaba. I came across it for 1500 USD , I reckon absolute crazyness.

I was just having a look at a few things on the site and saw it,

Every other place i.e. States are selling this for over 5,000. I reckon the dollars are bound for some credit transfer dodgyness.

I thought this site was fairly respectable.

zzzzzzzz

are you sure that wasn't iwillrobyou.com ?

Chips Lovell

If it looks too good to be true, it usually is.

penexpers

feelyd wrote: »

Have a look on Alibaba. I came across it for 1500 USD , I reckon absolute crazyness.

I was just having a look at a few things on the site and saw it,

Every other place i.e. States are selling this for over 5,000. I reckon the dollars are bound for some credit transfer dodgyness.

I thought this site was fairly respectable.

Alibaba is just for business'. By the looks of things they don't sell to individuals.

blorg

Almost certainly a scam, you see a lot of this on Gumtree too, very expensive bikes posted for silly prices.

Hungrycol

Alibaba and the fourty... emmm

jefferson73

is it this?

AndyP

el tonto wrote: »

If it looks too good to be true, it usually is.

Exactly, it is IMPOSSIBLE to sell a bike like that at anywhere remotley like that price.

In the immortal words of Ted Crilly, "Careful now"!

Hungrycol

jefferson73 wrote: »

is it this?

They're the new folding bikes.... didn't you hear

AndyP

Forgive my ignorance, but is there a trade in counterfeit bicycles and parts. I know there is/was a big trade in rip-off golf stuff from the middle east and far-east and maybe this is the same?

Fatloss08

my old man sells the pinerello prince €3500 for frame alone , will get pics lovely new one

Chips Lovell

Fatloss08 wrote: »

my old man sells the pinerello prince €3500 for frame alone , will get pics lovely new one

Does your Da own the Cycle Superstore by any chance?

Fatloss08

nope he sells all his stuff to them tho

Chips Lovell

Have you gotten to ride one yet?

Caroline_ie

AndyP wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance, but is there a trade in counterfeit bicycles and parts. I know there is/was a big trade in rip-off golf stuff from the middle east and far-east and maybe this is the same?

They do everything from Callaway Golf clubs to car break pads made with organic stuff. And here: Counterfeit Zipp Bars. there is a market for everything ...

http://www.zipp.com/Support/CounterfeitHandlebars/tabid/176/Default.aspx

Fatloss08

yeah , he has alot of high end stuff

Campagnolo , Record , Chorus , Centeur etc
Dura - Ace
Ultegra etc

Latest Wheels , clothing , shoes , Sintesi frames , look , olmo etc

you name it he has it , one of ireland biggest wholesalers

And no im not desperate to sell his stuff

TinyExplosions

Fatloss08 wrote: »

yeah , he has alot of high end stuff

Campagnolo , Record , Chorus , Centeur etc
Dura - Ace
Ultegra etc

Latest Wheels , clothing , shoes , Sintesi frames , look , olmo etc

you name it he has it , one of ireland biggest wholesalers

And no im not desperate to sell his stuff

So, can we buy things off you for wholesale price... a cheap pair of Fulcrum zeros would be nice

blorg

Caroline_ie wrote: »

They do everything from Callaway Golf clubs to car break pads made with organic stuff. And here: Counterfeit Zipp Bars. there is a market for everything ...

http://www.zipp.com/Support/CounterfeitHandlebars/tabid/176/Default.aspx

Yeah I met someone on the weekend who had got Zipp 303s for a price that was just too good to be true.

Fatloss08

i dont know what the rules are of advertising on here , but if allowed id be happy to get you the best prices available

obviously he doesnt do every single thing on the market , i dont work for him , i work in an office with great internet access , so if i can assist in sales id be happy

Chips Lovell

I've seen rebadging rather than couterfeiting. Putting Zipp stickers on a pair of no-name carbon rims for example.

Caroline_ie

blorg wrote: »

Yeah I met someone on the weekend who had got Zipp 303s for a price that was just too good to be true.

They're real 303 ... Bought in RA cycles 2 years ago I just have very generous friends who give me nice 2nd hand gifts.... Am I a Fred too ?

TinyExplosions

Caroline_ie wrote: »

I just have very generous friends who give me nice 2nd hand gifts.... Am I a Fred too ?

Not a Fred, just a nice lady that uses every feminine trick known to get cheap (free!) stuff

Fatloss08

Zipp 303s €1600

Caroline_ie

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Not a Fred, just a nice lady that uses every feminine trick known to get cheap (free!) stuff

eeerrrrrrrr .... Never! I have dignity!!

TinyExplosions

Caroline_ie wrote: »

eeerrrrrrrr .... Never! I have dignity!!

Doesn't mean you don't use your being a lady to your advantage

I'd be happy to be dignified with cheap 303's

Fatloss -how much can you get Fulcrum Racing 3's for (as a matter of interest)

Fatloss08

Fatloss -how much can you get Fulcrum Racing 3's for (as a matter of interest)[/quote]

sorry doesnt do them

just the zipp 303s
mavic
kryseriums etc

TinyExplosions

Fatloss08 wrote: »

sorry doesnt do them

just the zipp 303s
mavic
kryseriums etc

How about Mavic Ksyrium SL's?

kenmc

el tonto wrote: »

I've seen rebadging rather than couterfeiting. Putting Zipp stickers on a pair of no-name carbon rims for example.

Is that not counterfeiting then? Unless it was done by Zipp outsourcing to another manufacturer, and applying the stickers themselves, then I'd say that it is counterfeiting.

penexpers

Fatloss08 wrote: »

yeah , he has alot of high end stuff

Campagnolo , Record , Chorus , Centeur etc
Dura - Ace
Ultegra etc

Latest Wheels , clothing , shoes , Sintesi frames , look , olmo etc

you name it he has it , one of ireland biggest wholesalers

And no im not desperate to sell his stuff

Do I smell grey imports?

Chips Lovell

kenmc wrote: »

Is that not counterfeiting then? Unless it was done by Zipp outsourcing to another manufacturer, and applying the stickers themselves, then I'd say that it is counterfeiting.

I'd tend to think of it more as impersonation. I always regarded counterfeiting as something manufactured to specifically look like someone else's product.

Fatloss08

TinyExplosions wrote: »

How about Mavic Ksyrium SL's?

yep he does them

and no there 100 % legal from a longtime dealer over 25 years

penexpers

Fatloss08 wrote: »

yep he does them

and no there 100 % legal from a longtime dealer over 25 years

It doesn't matter where they are coming from - if they're not following the official distribution channels then they should labelled as grey imports and may not be supported by the manufacturer.

What's interesting is Look only list Cycle Superstore as a pedal dealer and not a frame dealer. Surely they wouldn't be selling grey import frames?

Fatloss08

well straight from look

sorry to dissapoint you