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Beamish Red

  • 07-07-2008 10:39am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭


    Has 2 lovely pints of this over the weekend in Clontarf Castle. It has a nice creamy head, like Kilkenny, but is lighter than it, more like a Smithwicks.

    Anyone know anywhere in Dublin city centre which serves it on draught?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Peter's Pub and O'Neill's on Suffolk Street have it. Quite fond of it myself, now and again.

    Edit: and I just spotted that Nash's on the corner of Kevin and Patrick Streets have a sign in the window saying they sell it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭deaddonkey


    not city centre, but hedigans in phibsboro do it

    €3.80 i think. it's lovely stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    *takes notes of locations*

    This stuff seems almost impossible to find nowadays. Used to be everywhere in Cork (one of my main reasons for visiting the city, actually, but don't tell Warpcon, they'll cry), but last time I went i had to visit the pub opposite the Beamish brewery to find me some.

    Divine stuff, if Smithwicks and Kilkenny had a baby that was raised by God, it would be like Beamish Red.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Sarky wrote: »
    Divine stuff, if Smithwicks and Kilkenny had a baby that was raised by God, it would be like Beamish Red.
    Get that man some O'Hara's Red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    To continue the Red Ale rundown, I was in Messrs Maguires last night, had a few lovely pints of their Ruby Red Ale. Very nice. As creamy as a Kilkenny but not as heavy. I'd prefer it to the Portherhouse Red I think. And microbrews are 4 euros a pint in Messrs.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Rusty, not Ruby. Any sign of the Imperial, odyssey06? I understand a new batch has been brewed. Divine (award-winning) beer.

    I think it's kinda weird that the Porterhouse and MM still do nitro reds. They're very much products of the mid-1990s when the styles were in fashion. But the big-brewery nitro reds (Beamish, Murphy's, Kilkenny, Caffrey's) have really fallen out of favour since, and yet Rusty is MM's biggest seller. Novelty value, I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I stand corrected BeerNut, Rusty it is - I didn't see any Imperial but I was focusing on the Rusty... and the girls at the bar alas :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Ham'nd'egger


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Rusty, not Ruby. Any sign of the Imperial, odyssey06? I understand a new batch has been brewed. Divine (award-winning) beer.

    I think it's kinda weird that the Porterhouse and MM still do nitro reds. They're very much products of the mid-1990s when the styles were in fashion. But the big-brewery nitro reds (Beamish, Murphy's, Kilkenny, Caffrey's) have really fallen out of favour since, and yet Rusty is MM's biggest seller. Novelty value, I suppose.

    Beernut, I think a lot of people like the smooth a Nitro gives over a basic ale or even a lager. They do drink a little easier over regular ales (once they are not ultra chilled) and for those who can't deal with more bitter tasting stouts, they are a viable alternative especially to tourists who want the novelty of a headed beer, that novelty factor does a lot of good to them IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Peter's Pub and O'Neill's on Suffolk Street have it. Quite fond of it myself, now and again.

    Edit: and I just spotted that Nash's on the corner of Kevin and Patrick Streets have a sign in the window saying they sell it too.

    Went into O'Neills to try this stuff. The bartender had to run the tap a bit to get the proper flavour before serving the pint. (€4:10)
    He said he has maybe served maybe one pint of this stuff every week! :eek:

    Maybe i didn't get a decent pint because of the above as the flavour didnt stay more than halfway through it, but it could have potential as it's pretty distinctive flavour.
    Straight afterwards, i drank a pint of red in the Porterhouse and it was superior to the Beamish Red, not sure but that maybe because it's drank more from the keg to get a good flavour:)

    On second thoughts, where would this red ale be drank more often to get its real flavour? (that Nash's pub?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭lego


    In other countries you can buy it in cans or bottles, but apparently not in Ireland.

    AFAIK these are the pubs that sell Beamish Red it in Dublin (Corrections welcomed if I missed some):
    Elenora Pub (Drimnagh)
    Clontarf Castle Hotel
    O'Neill's (Suffolk Street)
    Nash's Pub (50 Patrick Street, D8)
    Hedigans (Phibsboro, D7)
    Peter's Pub (South William St, D2).

    You can get it in loads of pubs in Cork.

    If you're really into it, the best pint of Beamish Red can be got at An Spailpin Fanac (across from the Beamish Brewery on South Main Street in Cork).

    http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/europe/ireland/county-cork/cork/attraction-detail.html?vid=1154654660996


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Add KCR House (326 Lower Kimmage Road, D6W).

    Subtract Nash's on Patrick Street: like about half the pubs between Christchurch and Harold's Cross it is no more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭manc


    a little further out The Salmon Leap in Leixlip does Beamish Red for €3.70 also a great pint of Guinness €4.20 (i think)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I heard Peter's Pub served their last pint of it over Christmas. Heineken are pulling the plug, I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    BeerNut wrote: »
    I heard Peter's Pub served their last pint of it over Christmas. Heineken are pulling the plug, I reckon.

    Thats not good at all, it can only mean the Beamish stout will become a local beer at best if at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    god I love beamish red

    god Ill miss beamish when it changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭yknaa


    Blue Bar (Skerries) and Ollies Place (Skerries) also serve Beamish Red. Top beer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    yknaa wrote: »
    Blue Bar (Skerries) and Ollies Place (Skerries) also serve Beamish Red. Top beer

    Try and get a few pints in before it goes :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭shanel23


    Drank a few pints of beamish red in Madrid a few weeks ago and man was is nice - a far better cry that the usual muck they were serving over there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭chakotha


    I'd be afraid to order it as it moves so slowly there must be cobwebs in the keg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    chakotha wrote: »
    I'd be afraid to order it as it moves so slowly there must be cobwebs in the keg.

    Pasturised and filtered beer is very stable and is good for a long time, how long it is sitting in the lines and how ofter they get cleaned is another matter


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Just got word from someone who spoke to a publican who spoke to the brewery: production of Beamish Red has ceased, may the lord rest its nitrogenated soul.

    Macardle's will be next, IMO, then Smithwick's. We are living in the last days of mass-produced Irish ale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭lego


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Just got word from someone who spoke to a publican who spoke to the brewery: production of Beamish Red has ceased, may the lord rest its nitrogenated soul.

    Macardle's will be next, IMO, then Smithwick's. We are living in the last days of mass-produced Irish ale.


    Nooooooo!!!!


    Are any of these places still selling it of have they ran out too?:

    Clontarf Castle Hotel
    Elenora Pub (Drimnagh)
    Hedigans (Phibsboro, D7)
    KCR House (326 Lower Kimmage Road, D6W)
    O'Neill's (Suffolk Street)

    Blue Bar (Skerries)
    Ollies Place (Skerries)
    Salmon Leap (Leixlip)

    Who should we email to attempt to dissuade them from pulling the plug on Beamish Red production - Heineken or Beamish?

    http://www.heineken.com/ireland/

    http://www.beamish.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    lego wrote: »
    Nooooooo!!!!
    Who should we email to attempt to dissuade them from pulling the plug on Beamish Red production - Heineken or Beamish?

    I think the plug is already pulled, it worth are try but the probably have some data that fits what they want to do


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    lego wrote: »
    Are any of these places still selling it of have they ran out too?:
    I have other things to do with my time than auditing pubs for Beamish Red stock ;), but KCR House still had some last week.
    lego wrote: »
    Who should we email to attempt to dissuade them from pulling the plug on Beamish Red production - Heineken or Beamish?
    They're the same company. You can write to Heineken, but as oblivious says, it was a bit of a no-brainer, economically speaking. Irish red has become a niche product, a very small niche as far as the two industrial brewers are concerned. I suggest red fans switch to O'Hara's Red, Porterhouse Red, Rusty, Rebel Red (aka Castle Red/Writers' Red) or, dare I say, Galway Hooker. At least that way you're supporting Irish-owned breweries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭lego


    BeerNut wrote: »
    I suggest red fans switch to O'Hara's Red, Porterhouse Red, Rusty, Rebel Red (aka Castle Red/Writers' Red) or, dare I say, Galway Hooker. At least that way you're supporting Irish-owned breweries.

    Murphys Irish Red Ale, Wexford Irish Cream Ale and Messrs Maguire Rusty are the only ones that come close when comparing, and none are spot on like Beamish Red.

    Porterhouse Red, Bass and Kilkenny are drinkable, but not very good.

    O'Hara's Red, Rebel Red, Smithwicks and Macardles are undrinkable as far as I'm concerned.

    I've never tried Galway Hooker or Red Biddy so I don't know what they're like.

    If you add them all together you would probably have a reasonably-sized segment of the market. But the ale market in Ireland is much more fragmented than the stout, lager and cider markets (especially in terms of whats available in pubs).


    There seem to be loads of them at this URL:

    http://www.beerpal.com/Beer-Directory/Irish-Ale/

    but I don't know how many are actually Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    lego wrote: »
    There seem to be loads of them at this URL:

    http://www.beerpal.com/Beer-Directory/Irish-Ale/

    but I don't know how many are actually Irish.

    O'haras Irish Red is :), I think Caffreys Irish Ale is on the way out and Árainn Mhór RUA is not brewed in Ireland

    Irish red ales is fairly popular style with micros in the north america, but they are probably bigger beer that Smithwicks and beamish red


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    lego wrote: »
    Murphys Irish Red Ale
    No longer made (or sold, I think) in Ireland.
    lego wrote: »
    Wexford Irish Cream Ale
    Made in England by UK giant Greene King. Not generally available in Ireland.
    lego wrote: »
    Red Biddy
    Not brewed in several years. Brewery effectively out of business.
    oblivious wrote:
    Caffreys Irish Ale
    Made by Coors in England. Not generally available in the Republic of Ireland.
    lego wrote: »
    the ale market in Ireland is much more fragmented than the stout, lager and cider markets
    That's because it's on a much much smaller scale. When the Competition Authority considered the Beamish takeover they didn't even include ale in their analysis of the Irish beer market because it is practically non-existent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Made by Coors in England. Not generally available in the Republic of Ireland

    Sorry I mean I thought is as been discontinued or is it?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    No, I've seen it around recently in the UK. They redesigned the can with the Coors thermosensitive ink thingy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭ArmCandyBaby


    Absolutely gutted that I never got to try this. I love red ales and Beamish - this seems like the perfect drink! I got stupidly excited when I saw this thread's title come up on the main page but alas tis not meant to be. :(


    Ugh, boards can be such a roller coaster of emotions sometimes...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Absolutely gutted that I never got to try this.
    People not drinking it is the reason it's been withdrawn :)

    But there's probably a supply out there still if you look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭ArmCandyBaby


    I thought I had been doing my bit by gulping down regular Beamish recently to the disdain of my company. I think the moments past - there's not much fun drinking it alone through stale taps. Must keep my head on a swivel in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭yknaa


    There is an article in today's Examiner about the Oval Pub in Cork is selling the last few kegs of it. Shame.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    yknaa wrote: »
    There is an article in today's Examiner about the Oval Pub in Cork is selling the last few kegs of it. Shame.

    thats a right ****in pain in the hole, I've done my bit since I've moved to cork anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭noby


    I wasn't planning on being in Cork before easter; I assumed it might last that long. Obviously not.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    noby wrote: »
    I wasn't planning on being in Cork before easter; I assumed it might last that long. Obviously not.

    Well if you live in "fungarvan" you haven't got far to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭noby


    True. I've no excuse really. I must check my diary (says he, pretending he owns a diary).


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    If only I could pick up a stock of it - I like it - I don't even love it but it's just pissing me off no end that it's gone, done, finished.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Start stocking up on Macardle's, I'd say: it's next.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Silver Lining Alert:
    The end of Beamish Red has prompted several Cork city pubs to start stocking Rebel Red as a replacement. It's now on sale in Bru on MacCurtain Street, The Long Valley on Winthrop Street and An Spailpín Fánac on South Main Street.

    No more Dutch-owned red ale; have a proper Irish one instead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dats_right


    It is with a great sense of regret that I learn of the passing of Beamish Red. I was given a free sample by a barman in the Flowing Tide in Abbey Street about three years ago and quite often enjoyed a pint of it, instead of my usual Guinness, in any pub that I'd see it being served.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Great news BeerNut, this could be a nice little niche for Irish micro's to take advantage of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Wallacebiy


    Heineken are indeed pulling the plug on Beamish Red

    Very sad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Uncle Arthur


    really sickened to hear about beamish red, loved having it whenever i was in cork. could never seem to find it anywhere else on tap! i will have to try and keep beamish afloat now by having that as my stout of choice from now on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭manc


    lego wrote: »
    Nooooooo!!!!


    Are any of these places still selling it of have they ran out too?:

    Salmon Leap (Leixlip)

    served last one a couple of weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 medias


    I just see from wikipedia that Beamish Red is no longer being made. I have a friend over that has been looking forward to trying it!

    Anyone know anywhere that it might still be got (Cans/bottles or whatever!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    medias wrote: »
    I just see from wikipedia that Beamish Red is no longer being made. I have a friend over that has been looking forward to trying it!

    Anyone know anywhere that it might still be got (Cans/bottles or whatever!)
    You just answered your own question - it's no longer being produced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Philush


    We ve Murphys red in the place I work at the mo.last few barrels. Novelty as its normally only for export. Lovely creamy head and nice kick off it.


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