Help me pick a new car

maclad

Okay here's the story, a couple of months ago I wrote off my first car it was a '08 seat ibiza 1.4 sport. Anyway the insurance claim took forever so I bought myself a '96 civic to keep me goin'. So i'm picking up my new car on saturday but its the 5dr model instead of the 3dr that I had. I argued with the insurance company as I didn't want a 5 door(ugly) but the there's a 4 month waiting list for a 3 door sport and they won't order one. So i asked for a settlement instead, that way i'd be free to shop around but they refused to pay more than 12000 and considering it cost me nearly 17000 two months previously that wasn't an option.
So now I'm planning to sell the new car straight away or trade it in. I was hoping for some advice on what to look at. Year doesn't bother me, I was thinking maybe a 04 leon or golf or maybe a 98-00 civic coupe. But i'm only 17 so insurance is a huge factor(emphasis on HUGE!) so i'm looking for ideally a 1.4-1.6 definitely nothing less than a 1.4 as i'm used to the 100 ponies in the ibiza:D Also it has to be petrol.

Cheers:)

gary the great

How the hell can you afford a 17k car when your 17????

Anyway, I got myself an Alfa 147 recently and have never looked back, much better than out any Golf or Ibiza. There a 1.6 petrol so insurance isnt to mental, though it you may be looking at a 1litre if you wrote off your last car.

But there an amazing drive is the 147, the noise out of the Tspark and also that "soul" or whatever the lads on Top Gear go on about (its so true, there is something about them).

Other than that, a 01model 1.4 Civic Sport would be nice...

maclad

gary the great wrote: »

How the hell can you afford a 17k car when your 17????

..at the risk of sounding like a prat my parents helped me(alot!) It caused me alot of abuse from friends but went well with the ladies:)

Yeah the alfa looks lyk a nice car. Saw that whole alfa passion thing earlier on top gear too! Are they reliable?

I know the insurance will be high but i'd rather not get a 1 litre just wouldn't feel safe.

maclad

forgot.... the civic sport is also a good option. I was looking at this one earlier: http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Honda/Civic/1.4S-STUNNER/1112277/
Just I know most fellas drive civics very hard so it could be rough

Tony Broke

Focus Zetec

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Ford/Focus/IMMACULATE-ZETEC/1119848/

maclad

Thanks Tony but i don't really like focus's, well except for the ST but....insurance:rolleyes: Can't fault them but just not for me.
Anyone have any opinions on an audi a3? look tempting but kinda expensive

E92

Anyone see tonight's Top Gear? There was plenty about Alfa's legendary reliability there tonight in the Alfa challenge.

Focus 1.6 ftw though:D!

Late 90s Civic coupé is a girls car if ever I saw one. I'm sorry but no matter how good it may be underneath it just looks so feminine. The chicks will think you're gay if you drive one of those, and worse, your friends will too.

Kimbot

New Mazda 2 1.5 Sport??

maclad

E92 wrote: »

Anyone see tonight's Top Gear? There was plenty about Alfa's legendary reliability there tonight in the Alfa challenge.

Focus 1.6 ftw though:D!

Late 90s Civic coupé is a girls car if ever I saw one. I'm sorry but no matter how good it may be underneath it just looks so feminine. The chicks will think you're gay if you drive one of those, and worse, your friends will too.

Have to say i've never seen a woman driving a civic coupe but then again...
But I did used to drive an ibiza though so there were quite a few gay jokes from the lads.....well until they saw it could outrun anything they had:D

maclad

jonny24ie wrote: »

New Mazda 2 1.5 Sport??

Not bad, but is it me or does the mazda 2 look like the new mk5 ibiza

Bluefoam

17... wrote off first car...

I think a 5 year old 1L Nissan Micra, until you learn roadskills. Nice to see you are so flush with cash that you can just buy and sell cars on a whim.

BTW, you will have difficulty selling a nearly new Ibiza in the current climate. Nearly new cars don't seem to be selling as people would prefer to buy new with all the advantages of buying new from a main dealer. Otherwise older cars are selling better than newer ones - you would want to advertise it at a rediculously low price IMO.

maclad

Bluefoam wrote: »

17... wrote off first car...

I think a 5 year old 1L Nissan Micra, until you learn roadskills. Nice to see you are so flush with cash that you can just buy and sell cars on a whim.

BTW, you will have difficulty selling a nearly new Ibiza in the current climate. Nearly new cars don't seem to be selling as people would prefer to buy new with all the advantages of buying new from a main dealer. Otherwise older cars are selling better than newer ones - you would want to advertise it at a rediculously low price IMO.

To be fair it was caused by a blow out and Yep, I know it'll be difficult but i'm patient;) also the dealer is my cousin and he's trying to help me shift it before its even registered.

vectra

maclad wrote: »

a 1 litre just wouldn't feel safe.

Says the fella that wrote off a 1.4

maclad

vectra wrote: »

Says the fella that wrote off a 1.4

Errrr...not really sure what you mean by that but if this is what happens to a solid car then I definitely wouldn't have walked out of an old 1litre micra for example.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/killowry/SHFeaYO71OI/AAAAAAAAAEY/WoFoQ3plh-s/13052008%28001%29.jpg?imgmax=512

Also please i'm only looking for advice on buying a car so there's no need for comments like that. Thanks:)

JHMEG

Had a Civic Coupe myself many moons ago. 1997 LSi, one of only a handful in the country at the time. Black, looked stunning when it was clean. The Ek Coupe is probably the best looking Civic *ever*. :cool:

If your insurance would stretch to it (doubt it), a Civic Coupe VTI would be very nice.

EDIT: As for it's gayness, yes, I remember that pantheon of gayness, the Fast and the Furious, and how all the fairies like Vin Diesel, Paul Weller and Michelle Rodriguez were driving Civic Coupes whilst robbing other, burly fairies driving artics and carrying shotguns:D

maclad

JHMEG wrote: »

Had a Civic Coupe myself many moons ago. 1997 LSi, one of only a handful in the country at the time. Black, looked stunning when it was clean. The Ek Coupe is probably the best looking Civic *ever*. :cool:

If your insurance would stretch to it (doubt it), a Civic Coupe VTI would be very nice.

Have to agree with you there the ek coupe is my fav of civics too. I must get some insurance quotes tomorrow(and try not to cry:o)

Bobo78

How about this :):p;)

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=868161&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Daewoo%20Matiz%2C%20Year%3A%202004%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=30383991&CFTOKEN=68092312

barler

maclad wrote: »

forgot.... the civic sport is also a good option. I was looking at this one earlier: http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Honda/Civic/1.4S-STUNNER/1112277/
Just I know most fellas drive civics very hard so it could be rough

i know of the lad sellin that car if u want more info on it pm me

itarumaa

Bobo78 wrote: »

How about this :):p;)

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=868161&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Daewoo%20Matiz%2C%20Year%3A%202004%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=30383991&CFTOKEN=68092312

based on 22 000 miles of driving experience about that car, ANY car in the marked is better than that one!

And for the topic starter, how did you manage to write off your car, quite much of damage.

vectra

What about the new SEAT Ibiza ?

mthd

+1 for the 147, insurance should be cheaper than most other 1.6s in the class

Bluefoam

mthd wrote: »

+1 for the 147, insurance should be cheaper than most other 1.6s in the class

I thought Alfa's attracted higher premiums due to their sporting heritage?

There is a less powerful 105bhp version for less experienced drivers which might suit the OP.

maclad

barler wrote: »

i know of the lad sellin that car if u want more info on it pm me

That would be great. Thanks!

Bobo: Think that could be too much of a lightweight:rolleyes:

maclad

itarumaa wrote: »

based on 22 000 miles of driving experience about that car, ANY car in the marked is better than that one!

And for the topic starter, how did you manage to write off your car, quite much of damage.

Well it started with a blow out on a dual carriage way then the car drifted off the tarmac and i guess it hit something as it started to spin then it rolled over(x3) eventually hitting the crash barrier on the opposite side.

maclad

vectra wrote: »

What about the new SEAT Ibiza ?

It's only readily available in 1.2 and having had experience with the 1.2 engine I can say it is the worst engine I have ever come across, very under powered and whiny. It actually sounds like a diesel

Alfa 147 is definitely appealing. I'll try and get a quote for one today and see how it goes.

Thanks guys:)

Bluefoam

Were the tyres damaged previously? You must have been travelling at some speed.

Henry Ford III

mthd wrote: »

+1 for the 147, insurance should be cheaper than most other 1.6s in the class

Why? Engine is relatively powerful for a 1.6 and parts are expensive.

mthd

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Why? Engine is relatively powerful for a 1.6 and parts are expensive.

I guess its because not many young guys drive them, but i consistently cheaper
quotes than similar lagunas, civics, golfs etc

Bluefoam

mthd wrote: »

I guess its because not many young guys drive them, but i consistently cheaper
quotes than similar lagunas, civics, golfs etc

I have to question this. We have had Alfas in the family going back years, and it was always difficult to get insurance on them for young drivers. There was a stage when insurance companies would not even quote young drivers on an Alfa, no matter what model.

maclad

Bluefoam wrote: »

Were the tyres damaged previously? You must have been travelling at some speed.

I don't think they were but the accessor ruled it as low tyre pressure which was absolute bull sh*t as I checked them a few days before and besides there was no air left in any of tyres and the culprit tyre was completely ripped off so it would be impossible to know for sure. As for speed, only 60-65 mph so there must have been a fault with the tyre or the rim

Bluefoam

I reckon a 17 year old in Limerick with a full license will pay about €2500-€3000pa on a 147. I don't know how this compares with other cars for that age group.

dubman25

maclad wrote: »

Okay here's the story, a couple of months ago I wrote off my first car it was a '08 seat ibiza 1.4 sport. Anyway the insurance claim took forever so I bought myself a '96 civic to keep me goin'. So i'm picking up my new car on saturday but its the 5dr model instead of the 3dr that I had. I argued with the insurance company as I didn't want a 5 door(ugly) but the there's a 4 month waiting list for a 3 door sport and they won't order one. So i asked for a settlement instead, that way i'd be free to shop around but they refused to pay more than 12000 and considering it cost me nearly 17000 two months previously that wasn't an option.
So now I'm planning to sell the new car straight away or trade it in. I was hoping for some advice on what to look at. Year doesn't bother me, I was thinking maybe a 04 leon or golf or maybe a 98-00 civic coupe. But i'm only 17 so insurance is a huge factor(emphasis on HUGE!) so i'm looking for ideally a 1.4-1.6 definitely nothing less than a 1.4 as i'm used to the 100 ponies in the ibiza:D Also it has to be petrol.

Cheers:)

you sound like a type of buy racer as you dont want a decent good car but instead a audi or a civic...maybe buy a bottle of cop on because you are only 17:)

maclad

dubman25 wrote: »

you sound like a type of buy racer as you dont want a decent good car but instead a audi or a civic...maybe buy a bottle of cop on because you are only 17:)

Well...you are clearly misinformed. How many boy racers do you see driving a 1.6 audi A3? as for the civic, its a decent car, wouldn't be touching bodykits or loud exhausts. If I was a boy racer then I would be looking for something completely different like a glanza/gsr/type r/levin/altezza. I'm looking for a decent car that won't draw too much attention from the law:D

vectra

maclad wrote: »

Well...you are clearly misinformed. How many boy racers do you see driving a 1.6 audi A3?

Plenty of Boy Racers around here in Audi A3's

maclad wrote: »

. I'm looking for a decent car that won't draw too much attention from the law:D

You will get plenty of attention from the law by putting cars on their roof @ 17

maclad wrote: »

I don't think they were but the accessor ruled it as low tyre pressure which was absolute bull sh*t as I checked them a few days before and besides there was no air left in any of tyres and the culprit tyre was completely ripped off so it would be impossible to know for sure. As for speed, only 60-65 mph so there must have been a fault with the tyre or the rim

Maybe Flipped it at 60/65 and ripped the tyre of in the process :rolleyes:

td2008

Hey maclad, i'm selling a 03 leon, pm me if you're interested.
A3 is a lovely car, bit expensive i reckon though, plenty of golf 1.4's on carzone at the moment and a few bargains could be had

maclad

td: I'll probably have to buy from a dealer and trade in my own. But if my manage to sell mine then i'll drop you a pm ,is it a 1.4?

mthd

Bluefoam wrote: »

I have to question this. We have had Alfas in the family going back years, and it was always difficult to get insurance on them for young drivers. There was a stage when insurance companies would not even quote young drivers on an Alfa, no matter what model.

I'm just speaking from my own experience with my 147, €1800 fully comp or €1500 tpft with quinn

td2008

Yeah probably makes more sense to trade in at the moment. Yep 1.4, insurance was around 1000, 2 years ncb, and on provisional. Going to oz in September, thinking about getting a cupra r when i get back! (if i get my driving test by then! :mad:)

maclad

mthd wrote: »

I'm just speaking from my own experience with my 147, €1800 fully comp or €1500 tpft with quinn

Hibernian qouted me €2400 fully comp on a 147, which is fairly expensive considering my insurance used to be €1400:(

maclad

td2008 wrote: »

Yeah probably makes more sense to trade in at the moment. Yep 1.4, insurance was around 1000, 2 years ncb, and on provisional. Going to oz in September, thinking about getting a cupra r when i get back! (if i get my driving test by then! :mad:)

Only 1k? what age are ya? Would love a cupra meself.....bloody insurance:rolleyes:

td2008

24, thats with quinn direct, 3rd party. Comprehensive was about 1400.

Henry Ford III

Sorry maclad but it's difficult not to be a bit suspicious of a 17 y.o. involved in a high speed writeoff talking about clueless assessors, and quickish cars.

It sounds very like you are a serial speeder to me at least.

maclad

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Sorry maclad but it's difficult not to be a bit suspicious of a 17 y.o. involved in a high speed writeoff talking about clueless assessors, and quickish cars.

It sounds very like you are a serial speeder to me at least.

This is my f*cking problem no one believes that i wasn't going very fast. For god sake the only people who believed me were the gardai as there were witnesses who stated that I was not going excessively fast and that I was in the slow lane.
I know i'm 17 but i'm not an idiot. So many people just assume oh he's 17 and crashed a car...therefore he's a boy racer. I mean it was a seat ibiza like that doesn't exactly scream fast car;)

delly

Lads, there's a lot of presumption about maclad being a bad driver or speeding just because of his age and having a new motor. Seriously, I would have expected more bitchiness in the Ladies Lounge rather then the motors forum.

Cionád

maclad wrote: »

For god sake the only people who believed me were the gardai as there were witnesses who stated that I was not going excessively fast and that I was in the slow lane.

Were they chasing you? :pac: I jest, I jest.


2,400 is not at all bad for insurance for a 17yr old, I dunno how you got 1,400 first time around!

147 would be nice. Why not keep the new car though?, is it just the looks that put you off?

maclad

Cionád wrote: »

Were they chasing you? :pac: I jest, I jest.


2,400 is not at all bad for insurance for a 17yr old, I dunno how you got 1,400 first time around!

147 would be nice. Why not keep the new car though?, is it just the looks that put you off?

Well, the looks but also with the 3dr sport is very rare whereas the 5drs are everywhere mostly 1.2 base models driven by old women:rolleyes: Ideally i'd love something like this: http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI+A3/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-110-210-240-4294966334-4294966997/advert.action?R=200827313777909&distance=8&postcode=E98+1NW&channel=CARS&make=AUDI&model=A3&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=
the vrt is a little over 3k so it would be cheaper than one here.

NinjaTruncs

maclad wrote: »

Hibernian qouted me €2400 fully comp on a 147, which is fairly expensive considering my insurance used to be €1400:(

How can you say that, you've just made a claim for around 18K after one year.

maclad

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

How can you say that, you've just made a claim for around 18K after one year.

I suppose you have a point:o

Bluefoam

Your insurance has agreed to pay out on the claim. I would insist on getting like for like - you have a car to do you while waiting for the new one.

maclad

Bluefoam wrote: »

Your insurance has agreed to pay out on the claim. I would insist on getting like for like - you have a car to do you while waiting for the new one.

I've been through that with them several times but in their eyes they're replacing a black 1.4 ibiza with a black 1.4 ibiza. Tbh i'm sick of arguing,it took nearly two months for them to offer a replacement. The number of doors isn't on their agenda:( But I know other people who have come out worse from insurance claims like a friend who got a replacement car with more than double the mileage of her own

pburns

delly wrote: »

Lads, there's a lot of presumption about maclad being a bad driver or speeding just because of his age and having a new motor. Seriously, I would have expected more bitchiness in the Ladies Lounge rather then the motors forum.

What do you expect? :rolleyes:

I don't want to tempt fate but how the hell do you roll 3 times from a motorway accident at a sensible speed (as he states)???? At best a tyre blew out and he didn't have the experience or skill to gather it all up safely.

We really need better training/regulation of young drivers when we have parents who seem intent on spoiling their pampered offspring by plonking them in new motors as soon as they leave the kindergarden.