Civil Service Job

thefires

hi,
i am 28 this year and am think of going for a civil servent job,im told you need to have passed your leaving cert or have a leaving cert number,but i never did the Leaving cert

Is there anyway around this?

Gareth

Rolo Tomasi

thefires wrote: »

hi,
i am 28 this year and am think of going for a civil servent job,im told you need to have passed your leaving cert or have a leaving cert number,but i never did the Leaving cert

Is there anyway around this?

Gareth

Hi Gareth,

I believe the minimal level of education required to sit a C.O. exam is the leaving cert(I may to be corrected later). I think it would be very difficult to claim an exception to this requirement.

Jet Black

Yeah Rolo is right. All the civil servant jobs require a leaving cert minium. I have been checking out public jobs for the past number if years and its always stated. Im not sure if you could get around this be having some type of college qualification.

TheNog

Do the jobs not say "leaving cert or equivalent"?

OP did you go to school in another country?

joeblogg

I know you didnt need your leaving cert last time it was advertised, that might change again, if that type of job wud suit you, good money,great time off and nice pension

Kimbot

Sometimes when they are finding it hard to get staff they let the Junior Cert be the equivilant. I got into the service that way and know they have run a few comps since then with the same Junior Cert minimum.

Bluetonic

jonny24ie wrote: »

Sometimes when they are finding it hard to get staff they let the Junior Cert be the equivilant. I got into the service that way and know they have run a few comps since then with the same Junior Cert minimum.

Is it any wonder people have the impression they do of the civil service.

Climate Expert

And yet they still get paid as much as most people who've went to college and are working in the private sector with no job security. Disgraceful.

chris85

Climate Expert wrote: »

And yet they still get paid as much as most people who've went to college and are working in the private sector with no job security. Disgraceful.

not really sure bout that. If i went to work in Civil Service straght after the leaving i would have started at about 20000-22000 per annum and moderate raise every year. I finished college and have a job for next year starting on close to 35000 per annum and in a few years will have experience to go for jobs with much more money than that (approx 45000-55000)

Starting earning might be similar to graduate of accounting or marketing but these people get greater prospects in terms of their salary being increased. They are only on relatively low money for few years to gain experience.

joeblogg

starting pay 41k, rising to 75k after 8 yrs service

buckrodgers

Most of the civil service doesnt get the type of pay that prision officers get so it is not a good comparison. Not to mention the fact that I imagine working in a prision is a pretty tough job and they probably deserve a higher wage.
You dont need your leaving certificate for a clerical officer position but you do for anything higher. This means you can never go for promotion unless you go and do your leaving by night. Why shouldnt people who may not have had the best opportunities in life be given a chance to work as a clerical officer? It is a pretty boring job and the pay isnt fantastic so doesnt usually appeal to college graduates.

BC

If you did an equivalent exam then you can sit an irish test and get in that way if you pass.

passinginterest

buckrodgers wrote: »

Most of the civil service doesnt get the type of pay that prision officers get so it is not a good comparison. Not to mention the fact that I imagine working in a prision is a pretty tough job and they probably deserve a higher wage.
You dont need your leaving certificate for a clerical officer position but you do for anything higher. This means you can never go for promotion unless you go and do your leaving by night. Why shouldnt people who may not have had the best opportunities in life be given a chance to work as a clerical officer? It is a pretty boring job and the pay isnt fantastic so doesnt usually appeal to college graduates.

I don't think it's true that you can't go for promotion without a leaving cert. I'm nearly sure that for the EO competition two years satisfactory work as a CO made you eligible without having completed a leaving cert. As far as I know experience at a lower grade eventually makes you eligible to apply for the promotion.

buckrodgers

passinginterest wrote: »

I don't think it's true that you can't go for promotion without a leaving cert. I'm nearly sure that for the EO competition two years satisfactory work as a CO made you eligible without having completed a leaving cert. As far as I know experience at a lower grade eventually makes you eligible to apply for the promotion.

In the department I am in you have to have your leaving cert to go for EO. I would be surprised if it was different elsewhere.

pow wow

For some comps the presence of a college qualification negates the need for LC.

Euro_Kraut

Climate Expert wrote: »

And yet they still get paid as much as most people who've went to college and are working in the private sector with no job security. Disgraceful.

Sigh, not every one in the Civil Serivce gets paid the same. A clecical officer (which would be the grade the OP would be applying for) starts off on e23,000. Hardly stellar. After many many years and if they showed a great deal of ability they could rise to an EO position - starting 31,000.