why is there not mental health forum on this site

LegacyUser

i dont udnerstand why there is not a mental health forum here where people and families affected by mental illness can relate and help each other out. even for anyone at least one time in their lives they will be depressed and its very scary if you dont have real people who went through it or are dealing with it to just talk to about the issues. i think in this country more than any other country in western europe people are more inclined to have mental illness and depressions

Steve

I don't know why this was moved to feedback, perhaps you should re-phrase your question and try again. If you have a specific issue then make it clear rather than sounding like you are requesting a mental health forum.

*sorry if I got this wrong PI mods

Wibbs

I'd say because PI is enough of a minefield with regard to medical advice and already vulnerable people getting sidetracked. Especially if they start to doubt sound medical advise.

I've also noticed depression threads in PI of late have a tendency to become very polarised over treatments. The ones I remember from before not so much. One in particular I remember was pretty good and stayed on topic and avoided that.

The long term illness forum has had some good threads as well.

Bard

Erm... the answer to the question posed in the subject of this thread is more than likely "because nobody ever requested one", to be honest.

I'm not certain if these will help the OP but there are already forums for Psychology, Disability (albeit physical disability, specifically) and Long Term Illness.

Overheal

I have to agree with the OP somewhat, there might be precedent for a forum regarding the general discussion of mental health and not just when it becomes a PI? Granted though I dont visit the Long Term Illness forum (or psychology) so I may be chewing my foot here.

Talliesin

stevec wrote: »

I don't know why this was moved to feedback

Because it's feedback about the site.

And the answer is that the place to suggest, and discuss the merit of, new forums is the Forums forum.

orestes

I thought boards is a mental health forum?

I just kinda take it for granted that everyone on here is mentally unstable in one way or another and relating to each other on here is our way of dealing with it.

Thunderdome for the anger management cases, Cuckoos nest for those with chronic dementia, Feedback for the people strangely obsessed with pictures of cats, and After Hours for the downright incurably bloody mental

jaffa20

Overheal wrote: »

I have to agree with the OP somewhat, there might be precedent for a forum regarding the general discussion of mental health and not just when it becomes a PI? Granted though I dont visit the Long Term Illness forum (or psychology) so I may be chewing my foot here.

+1

It's time a mental health forum is added. Not where medical advice is given but to allow for discussion where people can relate to each other. The other forums are too specific to deal with this subject.

Steve

Talliesin wrote: »

Because it's feedback about the site.

And the answer is that the place to suggest, and discuss the merit of, new forums is the Forums forum.

Such is the way of things.
IMO the OP was maybe asking for some help and didnt know how - or - was asking for a forum in a highly unlikely way by posting anon in PI..

What would I know though..

nesf

A lot of us hang out in Long Term Illness because mental illnesses can very much be for life and unsurprisingly other people who have to take meds or do therapy for long periods of time or in recurring episodes tend to have similar concerns sometimes. Biology/Medicine handles all the medication queries and PI with what's left over. It's not a perfect solution but it does work.

That said, properly moderated the forum could work.

GuanYin

There is no mental health forum because the cons to such a forum far outweigh the pros.

There is a Biology/Medicine and a Long Term Illness Forum that can take such topics on a very shallow scale, after which professional help is what is required, not a lot of people on the internet with opinions taken from the back of a breakfast cereal box.

I wouldn't want anyone but trained professionals modding that forum and as we're unlikely to get them, I can say that as far as I'm concerned, there won't be one in the Science and Medicine forums.

Orion

orestes wrote: »

Thunderdome for the anger management cases, Cuckoos nest for those with chronic dementia, Feedback for the people strangely obsessed with pictures of cats, and After Hours for the downright incurably bloody mental

Considering you're the Baron I'm shocked you forget the Nocturnal forum for those with insomnia.

And then there's the entire Games category for those with allergies to fresh air. And don't forget the Unix forum for those with overeating issues and razor aversion disorder.

Overheal

GuanYin wrote: »

I wouldn't want anyone but trained professionals modding that forum and as we're unlikely to get them, I can say that as far as I'm concerned, there won't be one in the Science and Medicine forums.

how do you even find professionals for forums? I know think emergency services is actually modded by a garda officer for instance but how can you be really sure? Do they just go and have tea with DeVore or something and flash their credentials?

38141

...because.they..don't..want..people..talking..about..that..bad..bad..word

SUICIDE

Overheal

no... that happens a lot in PI. cmon youve been around long enough i thought you knew that?

though I observe the number of suicidal posts in PI has dropped of significantly since the good weather came about :rolleyes:

Black Swan

orestes wrote: »

Cuckoos nest for those with chronic dementia,

Indeed! And we all miss you over there orestes since your escape.

GuanYin

Overheal wrote: »

how do you even find professionals for forums? I know think emergency services is actually modded by a garda officer for instance but how can you be really sure? Do they just go and have tea with DeVore or something and flash their credentials?

I think that is my point.

nesf

GuanYin wrote: »

There is no mental health forum because the cons to such a forum far outweigh the pros.

There is a Biology/Medicine and a Long Term Illness Forum that can take such topics on a very shallow scale, after which professional help is what is required, not a lot of people on the internet with opinions taken from the back of a breakfast cereal box.

I wouldn't want anyone but trained professionals modding that forum and as we're unlikely to get them, I can say that as far as I'm concerned, there won't be one in the Science and Medicine forums.

There's a human element to mental illness that can be discussed quite easily without causing any problems or straying into the realms best left to the professionals. Aware groups do a lot of people a lot of good and there's no professionals at those meetings and they follow a few simple rules, i.e. no discussing particular medication, particular psychiatrists/hospitals etc. There's more to mental illness than just the medical side and even relatives of patients being able to congregate and chat can do them the world of good even when what they are discussing is mundane. Being able to share experiences, worries and anger with others can be therapeutic and it is not something that needs a psychiatrist or psychologist overseeing so long as reasonable limits placed on discussion.

The professionals would only be needed if there was some kind of therapy and/or medical advice going on, both should be avoided and discussions on medication could simply be kept to Biology/Medicine where they seem to happen without any major problems.

38141

GuanYin wrote: »

I wouldn't want anyone but trained professionals modding that forum and as we're unlikely to get them, I can say that as far as I'm concerned, there won't be one in the Science and Medicine forums.

The whole point is that trained professionals really do nothing more than any layperson does - they listen.

What suicidal people want, and need also, is someone to listen to them.

tbh

I can tinker with an engine with the best of them, but if you car breaks down, are you going to bring it to me, or a mechanic?

nesf

38141 wrote: »

The whole point is that trained professionals really do nothing more than any layperson does - they listen.

What suicidal people want, and need also, is someone to listen to them.

I completely and utterly disagree with that. Someone who is genuinely suicidal needs professional help, simply because if they are suicidal because of a mental illness they need to be confined and treated until they are in a state where they won't attempt to damage themselves. A lay person is a very poor substitute in these situations. The Samaritans do good work in this area but an internet forum with open-access posting is the last place a suicidal person should be getting help from.

The whole point is that there is a whole lot more to mental illness than suicidal tendencies and many of the more chronic problems are something that are worth chatting about with other sufferers. Acute situations, like suicidal urges, are not something that should be dealt with by anyone who isn't a professional.

GuanYin

nesf wrote: »

There's a human element to mental illness that can be discussed quite easily without causing any problems or straying into the realms best left to the professionals. Aware groups do a lot of people a lot of good and there's no professionals at those meetings and they follow a few simple rules, i.e. no discussing particular medication, particular psychiatrists/hospitals etc. There's more to mental illness than just the medical side and even relatives of patients being able to congregate and chat can do them the world of good even when what they are discussing is mundane. Being able to share experiences, worries and anger with others can be therapeutic and it is not something that needs a psychiatrist or psychologist overseeing so long as reasonable limits placed on discussion.

The professionals would only be needed if there was some kind of therapy and/or medical advice going on, both should be avoided and discussions on medication could simply be kept to Biology/Medicine where they seem to happen without any major problems.

That is all very well to say and alot harder to put into practice. Boards.ie is a site full of people who like to throw their opinion in. They tend not to care if it does good, is worthwhile, is wanted or is on topic. That can cause problems if you have someone come along with emotional investment. Look at PI threads where people are upset by the responses they get.

If we could assure an understanding and nuturing environment, I would support this. But we can't. I think we all know this. A mental health forum would be difficult to moderate and require mods on the same page with alot of empathy and an ability to read the situation. I wouldn't know where to begin to look for those mods - there are people like that on boards.ie, but would they want the position?

Would the PI mods take on such a forum?

We could have a mental health forum that may do alot of good. IMHO it would only take one wrong post to send someone over the edge for it to be a disaster. That is not a risk I want to be involved in, do you?

tbh

a lot of what you are saying is required is already happening (and has been for a while) without fuss in the LTI forum. I've not problems with separating those threads out to their own forum, but I don't think that the creation of a new forum would give license to go further than we already have - i.e. giving medical advice etc.

GuanYin

tbh wrote: »

a lot of what you are saying is required is already happening (and has been for a while) without fuss in the LTI forum. I've not problems with separating those threads out to their own forum, but I don't think that the creation of a new forum would give license to go further than we already have - i.e. giving medical advice etc.

Again, I think the scope is slightly different. I agree 100% with nesf

nesf wrote:

the whole point is that there is a whole lot more to mental illness than suicidal tendencies and many of the more chronic problems are something that are worth chatting about with other sufferers.

but a forum specifically for such issues is one where many people who should be seeking professional health will go. That is just human nature. I get e-mails or messages on MSN from friends all the time who ask about something they looked up on WebMD or read on a forum when what they needed to do was seek professional advice straight out. What we don't want is desperate people looking for solace in an internet forum. Sure that can happen with LTI, but usually these people are already under medical treatment.

Again, I believe, like LTI, such a forum *could* do good. I also think there is far more scope for things to go drastically wrong.

tbh

oh i gotcha - what's being asked for is a more in-depth discussion group, and the type of discussion in LTI is probably as far as we could go, is that right?

GuanYin

tbh wrote: »

oh i gotcha - what's being asked for is a more in-depth discussion group, and the type of discussion in LTI is probably as far as we could go, is that right?

That seems to be my take on it (assuming I understand you correctly). I think between PI and LTI boards.ie already covers a large proportion of what should be discussed in the area and the mods in both fora (ie. you ) do a fantastic job and have done it longer and better than any other mod could.

There are logistical issues too. We would most likely require anonymous posting as PI has. That requires mods with time.

6th

Mental Health Forum .... hhmmmmm .... would needs mods with losts of spare time ..... hhmmmm ........ even I wouldnt touch that!

nesf

GuanYin wrote: »

That seems to be my take on it (assuming I understand you correctly). I think between PI and LTI boards.ie already covers a large proportion of what should be discussed in the area and the mods in both fora (ie. you ) do a fantastic job and have done it longer and better than any other mod could.

There are logistical issues too. We would most likely require anonymous posting as PI has. That requires mods with time.

On the flip side, LTI isn't an obvious place to go and PI isn't ideal because of the mixed nature. I think a mental health forum run along the same lines as LTI already is could be useful, if only because more people will be able to find it because of the name and because if a regular group of responsible posters form, then the discussions might be worthwhile. I agree with you about the potential problems, but we haven't had huge problems in LTI or Bio/Med with mental health discussion, even medication discussion particularly about side effects has been useful and the synthesis of medical and lay opinion is actually a good one from what I've seen.

People with acute problems shouldn't even be allowed post on such a forum. The threads should be instantly locked and the poster directed to either the Samaritans and/or a medical practitioner. If the forum is limited to the discussion chronic problems, the effects of mental illnesses on family life and similar topics then you're a) far further away from the "one post setting someone off" risk that's inherent in threads about acute mental health problems, suicide being the primary one and b) discussing topics that are something that sufferers can help themselves with.

If the forum seemed to be turning into what you fear might happen, where the wrong kind of chatter is going on, then it could simply be closed and the idea put back on the shelf until a better way of implementing it could be realised, if ever.

DeVore

This terrifies me. We've had a few instances of "near misses" here. A couple of cases of people threatening suicide for a few reasons or holding their own welfare to ransom etc. I'm not going to go into identifying details because in some cases it would feed the cause of the problem.
You wouldnt have heard about it at the times, but seriously unfunny and scary sh*t. These people werent "hardcore" or seeking attention for the most part and at least one was well on the way to an "on air" exit.

Mental health is a massive MASSIVE hidden problem in Ireland with suicide being its shocking public face. The system isnt just broke its f*cked beyond belief and places like Boards gets the spill over and try to deal with it as best we can.

I very much doubt there will ever be a Mental Illness board on Boards because of these extremes. While 99% of people here are really helpful and kind, there's the 1% of dicks who would post "gowan, do it like I did yore ma" etc to push them over the edge and then lol about it afterwards.

I've been in email contact with a site being set up specifically to give on-net support for mental illness and suicidal people and I've dumped as much as I could of my experience to them in a mail but I have told them I think they are biting off a lot and need to be careful. Rather them then me but I wish them well. I'll publish the link when its live.

DeV.

Wibbs

DeVore wrote: »

You wouldnt have heard about it at the times, but seriously unfunny and scary sh*t. These people werent "hardcore" or seeking attention for the most part and at least one was well on the way to an "on air" exit.

It's actually happened on or around a couple of american sites already.

Mental health is a massive MASSIVE hidden problem in Ireland with suicide being its shocking public face. The system isnt just broke its f*cked beyond belief and places like Boards gets the spill over and try to deal with it as best we can.

In my own life I've known 4 people who've committed suicide. Knew them quite well too. In only one case was a suicide verdict returned. I've no clue how they got around that tbh. So I suspect on that admittedly small sample that the problem is even bigger. I know people in the system too and they use the same description as you.

While 99% of people here are really helpful and kind, there's the 1% of dicks who would post "gowan, do it like I did yore ma" etc to push them over the edge and then lol about it afterwards.

That's the problem. Any PI mod will tell you the number of muppets that you have to scrape off is high. Very high at times. I didn't get the extent of that as a user. I don't mean the usual stuff that's a misunderstanding or they didn't read the charter or I've had a bad day . I mean right so and sos. I dread the day a suicide thread comes up and there isnt a mod to intercept it. PI also seems to have a lot of traffic and passers by(I could be wrong here), whereas I suspect other fora don't, so the chance of sheer muppetry is less as a consequence.

I think in an ideal world a mental illness forum would be a bloody great outlet for those who just wanted to share their experiences, just like any other illness. The LTI forum has had some good threads on the subject very informative and well modded too. I've personally learned a lot from nesf alone.

Sadly I think it could only work if it was a private forum and anon posting was allowed, which isn't really doable. Even in my own limited modding experience the other forum I'm a mod in, Sex & sexuality, where you would think the chances of muppetry would be high, is an absolute walk in the park by comparison to PI.

I think a mental illness forum would be as hard.

The Black Oil

The cons outweigh the pros.

Some people can post suicide threats, intent, plans, that they've overdosed etc. As well as that some people lie and can be incredibly manipulative. Some very awkward relationships and dynamics can develop if you're not careful.

A venting space is fine but a specific forum would have to be tightly monitored and have very clear guidelines.

nesf

Wibbs wrote: »

I've no clue how they got around that tbh. So I suspect on that admittedly small sample that the problem is even bigger.

It's very easy and simply done if there's no insurance involved. Similar to how many doctors will quite happily lie on a medical cert for you because telling your boss you needed time off due to a mental health problem can be a quick way of arranging your own constructive dismissal. Doctors and the Gardaí can be very co-operative so that a family doesn't have to list their son's/daughter's/father's/mother's death as a suicide in my experience.



Dev, your site, your call. Thanks for giving an answer.

DeVore

The funny thing is that on two occasions I didnt clue in fast enough (because, like, I dont spend enough time here :rolleyes:) and the mods on PI caught it and literally in one case save someones life when they managed (somehow, dont ask me how) to contact the partner of the person and get them to phone and talk to the person (in another country). They and other key members of the forum managed to keep things on track until family and partner made contact. I've zero doubt that it would have ended much worse were it not for them and I spent the whole day like this..... :eek:
They literally saved someone's life and frankly this is a job for professionals but ... we do what we can. F*ck but it was scary even reading it "backwards". I dont think anyone will ever really appreciate the job the PI mods do and I thank them publically from the bottom of my heart.

Suicide is a national disgrace that no one wants to talk about and male suicide even worse because our society castigates men who show emotion. Its a disgrace and we need to do something about it but like everyone else, I dont know what.

DeV.

nesf

DeVore wrote: »

Its a disgrace and we need to do something about it but like everyone else, I dont know what.

Simply educating the public would be a start. The stigma against mental illness in this country is still very strong, strong enough to encourage people to hide their diagnosis and for doctors to lie on medical certs about it. It's bad enough having to swallow four different types of drugs every day indefinitely for your mind to be "normal" without having to somehow hide this when inevitably you have an off day and have a minor mood swing or psychosis. It would be lovely and simple to be able to explain to someone that the conversation you had with them last week should not taken to be indicative of your actual beliefs or opinions because you were slightly manic because you were mood cycling due to being ill the previous few days similar to how you could explain being abrupt or uncommunicative because you had a bad headache at the time but no, you can't because you've no idea of whether that person will be understanding or whether that person will try to avoid all future contact with you, or simply try to screw you over because some people are just like that. Mental illnesses are "hidden" because they can't be observed with the naked eye normally and many people seem to want to keep them that way.

GuanYin

DeVore wrote: »

The funny thing is that on two occasions I didnt clue in fast enough (because, like, I dont spend enough time here :rolleyes:) and the mods on PI caught it and literally in one case save someones life when they managed (somehow, dont ask me how) to contact the partner of the person and get them to phone and talk to the person (in another country). They and other key members of the forum managed to keep things on track until family and partner made contact. I've zero doubt that it would have ended much worse were it not for them and I spent the whole day like this..... :eek:
They literally saved someone's life and frankly this is a job for professionals but ... we do what we can. F*ck but it was scary even reading it "backwards". I dont think anyone will ever really appreciate the job the PI mods do and I thank them publically from the bottom of my heart.

Suicide is a national disgrace that no one wants to talk about and male suicide even worse because our society castigates men who show emotion. Its a disgrace and we need to do something about it but like everyone else, I dont know what.

DeV.

If this is the incident I'm thinking of, it is a recent enough one?

It does highlight the benefits of the forum, but with all due respect to the great jobs done by those involved, and I'm not belittling in any way, it was a fluke (if that is the right word) that it turned out well.

Also, while these are rare occurances in PI, my short time on boards has taught me that if you build it, they will come. As I said, we could have 20 positive cases where we benefit somebody at some stage of mental health but the 1 where we don't help, or even do more harm than good, is the one outcome that has to sit with the moderator of the forum forever. As the guys in Biology and Medicine will tell you, even after a few years in medicine, you never truely become detached when you're involved in the process of healing and lose a patient, it is something no forum moderator, even if it is a hypothetical worst case scenario, needs to be exposed to.

DeVore

Absolutely GuanYin (aside: are you someone renamed or did I completely miss someone get 11k posts and mod some of our most important forums? )

I couldnt agree more and its something that scares the willies out of me.

It was a total fluke caught because our mods were on the ball. We will certainly not be that lucky even 20 times.


DeV.

Sully

DeVore wrote: »

Absolutely GuanYin (aside: are you someone renamed or did I completely miss someone get 11k posts and mod some of our most important forums? )

That is PSI

I remember the incident in question but its a risk we take is PI or even in the Mental Health Forum if it was ever given the okay. I suppose PI and MH would have two different risk barriers, which is why I agree that having a MH forum would need to be though very carefully. Probably not a good idea, as voiced by PSI who I couldnt agree more with. I think the nail has well and truely been hit on the thead by the comments passed about the pros and cons of such a forum. My question is though, can we have any type of MH forum with a level of discussion but not support maybe?

DeVore

I think these things really are best left to the professionals.... I dont think a raggle-taggle of internet weirdos (yes, thats us I'm talking about) are equiped to deal with these things.

DeV.

Sully

DeVore wrote: »

I think these things really are best left to the professionals.... I dont think a raggle-taggle of internet weirdos (yes, thats us I'm talking about) are equiped to deal with these things.

DeV.

I agree, but at the same time - should we close the door completely on discussion also? Its a scary area, but do we really need to add to the list of people afraid to discuss it? Im not in favour of support, I think PI is stretching it (while a great and very useful resource, it can get risky and has done in the past) but discussion of any form related to it even?

Looby_Loo

I am a mental health professional.
I think developing a mental health forum could be a very valuable informative, supportive resource. I have seen it work very well in another Irish message board.
However on the other hand, it may well be equivalent to opening Pandoras box

Wibbs

Sully wrote: »

I remember the incident in question but its a risk we take is PI or even in the Mental Health Forum if it was ever given the okay.

It could even happen in AH or another forum here entirely completely out of left field. Stranger things have happened.

OK it's less likely in other forums, but I suppose it's the risk you take in any community this big, even or maybe especially online. When society at large makes you feel ashamed or simply too rushed to listen, a largely anonymous arena may be very attractive to someone at the end of their tether.

Maybe I'm wrong, but as well as considering the mental health forum as an idea, IMHO I do think we need to have in place some sort of protocol for if and when this kinda thing crops up again.

Nevyn

Looby_Loo wrote: »

I am a mental health professional.
I think developing a mental health forum could be a very valuable informative, supportive resource. I have seen it work very well in another Irish message board.
However on the other hand, it may well be equivalent to opening Pandoras box

With how big and varied boards.ie is it would be opening pandoras' box.
Other sites which are professsional and dedicated to health or that are solely about that issue can work but I can't see such a thing working here not when
you have the likes of cs kiddes ect posting things for the lulz.

If the parenting forum gets hit with pictures about abortion in a thread about pregnancy that is bad enough with out what that level of crassness and callousness directed at those who are not in a good place to start with.

The last suicidal thread in PI I locked it after referring the poster to the aware forums and to the samaritans site, the PI mods in their role of mods are not trained to be dealing with people like that no matter what our personal experience have been over the years, never mind who ever happens to be reading PI at any given time.

Looby_Loo

The other site is not a health specialist message board. It is a good bit smaller with about two hundred active members (mostly female) and only one mod :eek:
It does get trolled but obviously not to the same extent as boards.ie
Maybe a sticky with contact information for mental health support services and agencies would be of help

The Black Oil

Winzelberg et al (2003). Evaluation of an Internet Support Group for Women
with Primary Breast Cancer.

Not the same as mental health, but a few points:

Seventy-two women with primary breast carcinoma were assigned randomly to a 12-week, web-based, social support group (Bosom Buddies). The group was semistructured, moderated by a health care professional, and delivered in an asynchronous newsgroup format.

Eligibility for the current study was determined by meeting all of the following criteria: being female, receiving a primary breast carcinoma diagnosis within the last 32 months, having no suicidal ideation, living in California, and being able to communicate in written English. Because there is still ambiguity regarding the legal responsibilities of moderators of online support groups, we made a conservative decision to restrict eligibility to participants who resided in California — the state in which the moderators were licensed to practice psychology.

Although a mental health professional moderated the group, participants were informed that the group was not meant to serve as a form of psychotherapy or as an alternative to psychotherapy. Participants were told that they could contact the researchers for a psychiatric referral for evaluation and treatment in the event of a psychiatric emergency.

Wibbs

Well there are stickies in PI with info and links pertaining to that. Maybe there should be a sticky along the lines of. "Read this if it's getting too much for you" that kinda thing. With links to the obvious places for obtaining help and a trained ear. With a codicil maybe saying, "this forum and this site is not equipped to deal with these areas, please take the right step and contact the above". Maybe I'm just rambling here. Apologies.

Looby_Loo

Wibbs wrote: »

Well there are stickies in PI with info and links pertaining to that. Maybe there should be a sticky along the lines of. "Read this if it's getting too much for you" that kinda thing. With links to the obvious places for obtaining help and a trained ear. With a codicil maybe saying, "this forum and this site is not equipped to deal with these areas, please take the right step and contact the above". Maybe I'm just rambling here. Apologies.

Just went for a gander.
There oes seem to be a good few links there but its all mixed in with the forum charter/ STD info/ adoption links etc etc

Because it is such a serious issue maybe a dedicated thread (sticky) for mental health links that would be a little easier to trawl through??

Your idea sounds good

Nevyn

Wibbs wrote: »

Well there are stickies in PI with info and links pertaining to that. Maybe there should be a sticky along the lines of. "Read this if it's getting too much for you" that kinda thing. With links to the obvious places for obtaining help and a trained ear. With a codicil maybe saying, "this forum and this site is not equipped to deal with these areas, please take the right step and contact the above". Maybe I'm just rambling here. Apologies.

Put people wont' want to read a stickie they want an actually response to their post about their problem cos they are a snowflake and are being brave and
"this forum and this site is not equipped to deal with these areas, please take the right step and contact the above" is the response I usually give and then lock the thread.

Dord

Wibbs wrote: »

Well there are stickies in PI with info and links pertaining to that. Maybe there should be a sticky along the lines of. "Read this if it's getting too much for you" that kinda thing. With links to the obvious places for obtaining help and a trained ear. With a codicil maybe saying, "this forum and this site is not equipped to deal with these areas, please take the right step and contact the above". Maybe I'm just rambling here. Apologies.

Despite your rambling, it makes sense. I think this would be the best option.

Steve

Please excuse my unqualified intrusion.

I've been following this and am thinking 'If I wanted to troll PI with a suicide thread, I now know how'*

Should you not move / continue it in the mod forum?

I think you guys are leaving yourselves a bit open to abuse by hoaxers by posting all this in public, you have a hard enough job as it is and I am in awe of the apparent 6th sense you guys have dealing with it.

just my 2c.




*not that I'd ever ever think of doing that

Wibbs

Thinking much the same as stevec tbh. Good point. Off to the bat cave maybe?

Looby_Loo

Wibbs wrote: »

Thinking much the same as stevec tbh. Good point. Off to the bat cave maybe?

Probably best