Why do i find it so hard to get passed

LegacyUser

Im unreged for this.

Im 27 good looking skinny build and my teeth arnt great I am saveing for them to have screw dentures etc.. I make every attempt to make shore there not seen i cleen my teath 3 times a day allways have chewing gum. etc... Yes it means that i cant smile as widely as some people yet and it is an issue.

Now I consider my self to be a gentleman as aposed to a lad i treat women with respect and im happy to have a conversation with a woman and enjoy it. Im confident, I dont think of women as just objects even tho i do think attration is an important part of the game.

My behavour is well i dont over asume anything, I dont try it on with girls not because i don't fancy them but beacuse im Useually enjoying the conversation which i think is important I like to know women. I like to have conversation, with women. Persoanlly I feel comunication is as important to me as attraction and if there is just one for instance attraction then it doesnt work so well so i like to make shore if its worth getting to know some one. I'm also really laid back.

yet my sucess with women is Brutal to say the least.

am i to nice?
or do i come across as a prune?

the reason why this is bothering me is because a stupid as this may sound but people all around me are gettin married ingaged getting girlfirends etc.. and then theres me lol..... I dont want to be the third party mate who has no girlfriend so i guess im starting to feel a bit preasured... My x gf who i get on with said dont go looking for women let them come to you but women dont really go round chating blokes up all that much from what ive found..

I dunno any ones thaughts oh and im nearly 27....

Karen_*

Op don't mind what everyone else is doing. The reason your mates are getting married is because they've met the right person. You haven't yet. But you will!

I wouldn't worry about your teeth. I once went out with a guy whose teeth were rotten stumps but I still thought he was gorgeous because of who he was. And he'd no problem getting women.

You seem to have great respect for women and want to treat someone well. This is a big thing in your favour. You can never be too nice but don't be a doormat either. Remember who you are and what's important to you.

By the sounds of things you're not doing anything wrong. Whats the wrong thing to do anyway. Just be yourself and take each day as it comes. You never know what's around the corner!

MJOR

Well everyone is always on different pages in their life. You're being too hard on yourself....
Personally looks are not the be all and end all of it....
Being a nice guy will always get you a decent girl in the end.

RedXIV

Your gonna hate hearing it coz i'm sure i won't be the only one OP, but your ex is right, if you go looking for women, they are near impossible to find. If you concentrate on keeping yourself happy, then for some reason they always fall into your lap.

I realise your issue with your teeth is important to you but to many women it's not. Women (thankfully) aren't as hung up on looks as we are.

You will get a girl because you've listed very attractive qualties to most women, even if you don't realise it. Give it time mate, it'll happen

Best of luck

Red

WilmaRidesAgain

Hiya OP,

If you are hiding your smile a lot girls might think you are grumpy or sullen. I know you are not but facial expressions count for a lot, people could feel you dont like them if you avoid smiling....

Just a thought, maybe you could take a loan for the teeth work and get it sooner and that way you would not have to wait until you saved enough...

Anyway, you sound great in so many ways, I just think maybe the avoiding smiling thing might make girls afraid to approach...?

Dragan

Ehhhh wrote: »

My behavour is well i dont over asume anything, I dont try it on with girls not because i don't fancy them but beacuse im Useually enjoying the conversation which i think is important I like to know women.

How can you have success if you don't try? There is no point in sitting there thinking a lass should fall for you because of you looks and conversational skills.

It is nice to be wanted. It is nice to know that someone is attracted to you, finds you sexy etc. If you want a girl to be interested then you have to display some interest beyond the norm of conversation etc.

whiskeyman

RedXIV wrote: »

Your gonna hate hearing it coz i'm sure i won't be the only one OP, but your ex is right, if you go looking for women, they are near impossible to find. If you concentrate on keeping yourself happy, then for some reason they always fall into your lap.

Never a truer word spoken.
At the same time, be sure to attend things and do stuff while in this 'happy buzz' to be sure people see how happy you are and how much you enjoy life.

Best of luck and enjoy yourself

Pen1987

Karen_* wrote: »

Op don't mind what everyone else is doing. The reason your mates are getting married is because they've met the right person. You haven't yet. But you will!

Thats the truth...

Karen wrote:

I wouldn't worry about your teeth. I once went out with a guy whose teeth were rotten stumps but I still thought he was gorgeous because of who he was. And he'd no problem getting women.

Yeah thats the truth aswell, OP, women and men are very different, when you see a woman you think you dont judge her on looks, you may judge her less than most men but you judge her far more than most women.

Karen wrote:

You seem to have great respect for women and want to treat someone well. This is a big thing in your favour. You can never be too nice but don't be a doormat either. Remember who you are and what's important to you.

Yeah dont be a doormat, really DONT, you CAN be too nice IMO... you dont have to be an arsehole but dont be a puppy, tell her 'no' and be your own man if you do begin attracting a woman.

RedXIV wrote: »

Your gonna hate hearing it coz i'm sure i won't be the only one OP, but your ex is right, if you go looking for women, they are near impossible to find. If you concentrate on keeping yourself happy, then for some reason they always fall into your lap.

Rarely disagree with Red on these topics but I think hes wrong here. If you go looking for women they are impossible to find? nah I dont think so... its basic sales, the more people exposed to a product the more chance you have of selling that product. I dont think you should go out trying to sell yourself as a product now, dont get me wrong, but I do think you need to place a higher price on yourself... you need to value yourself as a catch, forget the teeth thing (because women will and do) and take the bull by the horns when youre talking to women, dont **** about.

You say you enjoy talking to women, good, but you dont want to take the convo to the next level, (asking her out/for number/kiss/sex whatever)... I think youre fooling yourself, of course you want to take it to the next level, think about, youre enjoying talking to this woman, so you'd want to do it again right? How might you do it again?... by asking her to meet up again in the future, how might you contact her in the future, by getting her number. You might be saying to yourself in your head, "Im enjoying this convo, dont want to **** it up by attempting to rack it up a notch" but come on, how many convos could one person have if they spoke to everyone in a bar? hundreds. How many of them would you enjoy? the vast majority more than likely. So basically a convo might be enjoyable but it has no real value, a relationship has value because it has to be worked at and developed, it takes effort and costs you time and emotion. A convo takes minutes and can be done easily with anyone anywhere anytime and can also be part of a relationship, therefore convos= enjoyable but worthless. Work on developing your convos which you already partake in, into a second convo, from there ask her for her number (if you enjoyed the convo its HIGHLY likely she did aswell, and if she willingly partook in the second one she is almost certainly comfortable to see you again and/or call text you) once you have her number, call her, make her laugh, chat to her then ask her out, from there develop into a relationship.

One thing, when youre talking to women you must make them laugh and enjoy talking to you, you probably already do this seen as you enjoy the convos yourself... but you also must control the conversation, assert your intelligence and masculinity and be confident enough to disagree (completely) with her, debate why you are right, be stubborn enough not to compromise your beliefs and then continue the convo...

Dragan wrote: »

How can you have success if you don't try? There is no point in sitting there thinking a lass should fall for you because of you looks and conversational skills.

Nail on the head!... I guess all that typing was sort a waste of time now that I saw this... ah sure **** it...

LegacyUser

Hey everyone thanks for the help advice.. and cool comments.

Id like to adress That I'm not a lapdog or a doormat. Im me and I am a nice person how ever I have no trouble with being completely blunt with a lay and saying exactly what i think.... I'm well aware of being to nice and i dont mind dissagreing with girls plus it can be fun to winde them up ..

Its good to hear that women arnt as bothered about teath as i thaught they where... I know its not hard to ask a girl for her number.... Ive done it before and would again.. Its just I guess talkin to women is easy but when i have to ask for the number Im affriad of them saying no...

I am happy with wear my lifes going. Id like to say I'm happy being single and I am its just I'd like to meet more women not nesscerilly have a girlfriend. But its a good feeling knowing your seeing someone. and I enjoy it. Most of the time people see me happy actully all the time im happy go lucky. So i guess the point being the more your around women the more you up your chance's ? but thats another problem of mine all my mates have girl friends and ive no one to go out and meet women with....

but hey I can work on that part...