I noticed a narcotics shop in capel street ?

lucozader

They had bongs and drugs and plants for sale

they are all legal btw in case mods want to ban me

what type of plants are they selling, what effects do they have ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

One in Berlin called "Udopia"... Class name....

And some of the bars have bongs on the tables....

lucozader

that's great

but what are the plants they are selling

Stephen90

These 'narcotics' shops are known as Head Shops and all are perfectly legal.

They sell loads of drug parafanalia (normally the majority is to do with marijuana and cannibis use... bongs, pipes, rolling mats, books etc.)

You can buy legal drugs in these shops. Each one varies of course as any shop does.

As far as stuff on a par with weed & hash goes, you can buy stuff called Spice Gold and or Spice Diamond. I didnt like it personally, but it's a perfectly fine legal alternative to weed or hash.

You can also buy various other 'legal highs' including party pills which come under various names and descriptions. Other stuff includes hallucanigenic pills etc... Dream enhancing pills etc..

You can also buy a very strong hallucinagenic smokeable drug called Salvia in some of these shops. It is made with the leaves of the Sage plant and is very pure (no chemicals etc..) hence why it is legal presumably. It comes in strengths varying from around 5x to about 40x or 60x AFAIK.

Anything above 10x Salvia will give you a strong & intense mind 'trip' not unlike other illegal alternatives. However the trip only lasts about 10mins at most.

The golden rule with these shops is even though the drugs and enhancers they sell may be legal, they must be respected in their use as much as any alternatives bought illegally.

Hope that answers some of your questions... If you wanna know anymore, feel free to PM me.

Nichololas

You can get legal hallucinogenics like Salvia and Hawaiian Baby woodrose seeds, kratom which I believe is similar to opium tea (confirm/deny?) and buy cannabis seeds for souvenir purposes

Stephen90

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

You can get legal hallucinogenics like Salvia and Hawaiian Baby woodrose seeds, kratom which I believe is similar to opium tea (confirm/deny?) and buy cannabis seeds for souvenir purposes

:rolleyes:

Nichololas

Stephen90 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:pac:

Run_to_da_hills

That shop on Caple St is called Nirvana and the "party" pills you are on about are based on BZP (benzylpiperazine) which Mimics Ecstasy. The EU is trying to ban them. http://www.independent.ie/national-news/eu-to-ban-party-pills-as-experts-warn-of-big-risks-1039273.html

JC 2K3

Thread about herbal smoke here.

Post I made about legal highs I found to be worthwhile here.

Run_to_da_hills, BZP is only one of dozens of legal highs available, and there are many legal party pills wihtout BZP in them. It does not mimic ecstasy at all, it is closer to speed in effects.

Mr. CooL ICE

lucozader wrote: »

that's great

but what are the plants they are selling

You tell us, you were the one that saw the shop

Btw, cannabis (and a lot of other drugs) isn't technically a narcotic. A narcotic is one which causes numbness and paralysis, i.e. heroin

Nichololas

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

That shop on Caple St is called Nirvana and the "party" pills you are on about are based on BZP (benzylpiperazine) which Mimics Ecstasy. The EU is trying to ban them. http://www.independent.ie/national-news/eu-to-ban-party-pills-as-experts-warn-of-big-risks-1039273.html

I've only heard bad things about them, google them and read about the and I don't see why you'd try them.

JC 2K3

LordChessington wrote: »

You tell us, you were the one that saw the shop

Btw, cannabis (and a lot of other drugs) isn't technically a narcotic. A narcotic is one which causes numbness and paralysis, i.e. heroin

Indeed. The only thing close to a narcotic that head shops sell would be kratom, which is supposedly quite effective and nice.

Stephen90

Yeah BZP is a substitute for MDMA in a lot of 'dud ecstacy tablets. I read that... somewhere...

It is after all Ireland biggest lingerie section I understand...

Run_to_da_hills

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

I've only heard bad things about them, google them and read about the and I don't see why you'd try them.

The only thing positive about these drugs is that they are made from a "legitimate" source; I believe most of them originate from New Zealand and are controlled, i.e. they are not made in some back street shed using a cocktail of rat poison or what ever else can be cut into the mix.

Stephen90

I remember reading somwhere before an argument to open a Boards.ie drugs forum to freely discuss issues to do with various narcotics. After all information is key.

Anyone around longer than I care to inform me what if anything came of this?

Run_to_da_hills

Stephen90 wrote: »

Yeah BZP is a substitute for MDMA in a lot of 'dud ecstacy tablets. I read that... somewhere...

It is after all Ireland biggest lingerie section I understand...

I would say it was decades since pure MDMA was last used in pills.

Nichololas

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The only thing positive about these drugs is that they are made from a "legitimate" source; I believe most of them originate from New Zealand and are controlled, i.e. they are not made in some back street shed using a cocktail of rat poison or what ever else can be cut into the mix.

Yeah but just because it's made in a legitimate sterile lab doesn't make the substance itself safe. Or fun.

JC 2K3

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would say it was decades since pure MDMA was last used in pills.

You mean pure MDMA on its own or just MDMA in general?

See: www.ecstasydata.org

Nothing but pure MDMA in quite a few of them, and many are MDMA mixed with something insignificant like caffeine. The majority have at least some MDMA in them.

Apparently, pure MDMA powder is also quite readily available these days too.

Run_to_da_hills

JC 2K3 wrote: »

Thread about herbal smoke here.

Post I made about legal highs I found to be worthwhile here.

Run_to_da_hills, BZP is only one of dozens of legal highs available, and there are many legal party pills wihtout BZP in them. It does not mimic ecstasy at all, it is closer to speed in effects.

According to any press reports about them they are regarded as a substitute for Extacy.

Stephen90

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would say it was decades since pure MDMA was last used in pills.

Not crystal MDMA or pure MDMA but in what would be regarded as a 'good pill' these days there would be a fair amount of MDMA content. They obviously vary in amount and content.

A simple colour obtaining test can dtermine whether the pill content is majorly made of MDMA, BZP, speed, ketamine or any substance.

Nichololas

JC 2K3 wrote: »

You mean pure MDMA on its own or just MDMA in general?

See: www.ecstasydata.org

Nothing but pure MDMA in quite a few of them, and many are MDMA mixed with something insignificant like caffeine. The majority have at least some MDMA in them.

Apparently, pure MDMA powder is also quite readily available these days too.

I'm not really up on this but I've read that it's common for pills to have maybe 10% actual MDMA and the rest filler such as amphetemines, caffeine etc. Anyone care to elucidate?

Run_to_da_hills

JC 2K3 wrote: »

You mean pure MDMA on its own or just MDMA in general?

See: www.ecstasydata.org

Nothing but pure MDMA in quite a few of them, and many are MDMA mixed with something insignificant like caffeine. The majority have at least some MDMA in them.

Apparently, pure MDMA powder is also quite readily available these days too.

Put it this way anyone who had them in the mid 90ies could tell you that there is a difference between what is going around now and what was availible back then. Back then they were about 20quid each, now they can be got for less than e5. Obviously something is taken out and added in to them.

Stephen90

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

According to any press reports about them they are regarded as a substitute for Extacy.

Aye... but then Mr. Daily Sun has likely never felt an MDMA buzz so has little basis for comparison. They are similar but worlds apart at the same time.

JC 2K3

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

According to any press reports about them they are regarded as a substitute for Extacy.

1) Anything the press says about any kind of drug should be taken with a pinch of salt. The press are notorious for perpetuating sensationalist, unscientific myths about drugs.
2) BZP might be taken as a substitute for E, but it does not mimic its effects at all.

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

I'm not really up on this but I've read that it's common for pills to have maybe 10% actual MDMA and the rest filler such as amphetemines, caffeine etc. Anyone care to elucidate?

It varies from pill to pill. Have a browse through www.ecstasydata.org. That should give you an insight as to what's usually in pills, though it is based on mainly American data.

JC 2K3

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Put it this way anyone who had them in the mid 90ies could tell you that there is a difference between what is going around now and what was availible back then. Back then they were about 20quid each, now they can be got for less than e5. Obviously something is taken out and added in to them.

The price going down is very simply explained by rising demand.

There might be less MDMA in them, but that doesn't mean anything else is necessarily added into them.

Run_to_da_hills

JC 2K3 wrote: »

The price going down is very simply explained by rising demand.

There might be less MDMA in them, but that doesn't mean anything else is necessarily added into them.

The quantity that is needed, Years ago a half, one or two would have been sufficient, The earlier ones had a mark down the middle to make it easier to split them in half.

JC 2K3

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The quantity that is needed, Years ago a half, one or two would have been sufficient. Infact the older ones had a mark down the middle of them to split them.

A half, one or two is still sufficient.... And many do have marks down the middle these days...

Depends where you're getting them I guess...

And again, even if they are weaker, it doesn't mean anything else is added in.

Run_to_da_hills

JC 2K3 wrote: »

A half, one or two is still sufficient.... And many do have marks down the middle these days...

Depends where you're getting them I guess...

And again, even if they are weaker, it doesn't mean anything else is added in.

You build up a resistance to pills. I.E. 1/2 or 1 would be sufficient the first time after that the more you take them the more you will need to get the same effect. Also the come down period comes quicker the more you are familiar with them.

JC 2K3

Emm... yes, I know that....

Sir Gallagher

In other news, "We landed on the moon"

Sherifu

Capel Street. I used to have some houses there when I played Monopoly. \o/

binhead

yea but did you have a head shop there when you played Monopoly?


BZP - slightly similar in effect to SOME pills, but depends what type you take, there are a squillion varieties of party pills all designed to mimic different drugs, pills/speed/shrooms...etc.

The BZP ones work, BUT, sleep is a massive problem after, like way after, an example..I was in Kennedies last night watching a wicked DJ. Nowt about so a BZP, a booga wooga, all good.

went to bed at 8am. Got up at 2 today. Slept for a grand total of four minutes. My head now hurts immensly.

typing this hurts..

So, BZP works if there's nothing else, but ultimately, it's a load of sh*te.

Tusky

I would avoid them. They are more harsh on your head than the real deal!

Kernel

I wonder what kind of studies into long term effects have been carried out for these substances?

Run_to_da_hills

Kernel wrote: »

I wonder what kind of studies into long term effects have been carried out for these substances?

I would say if the main concern from these drugs would be from water intoxication. Like Ecstasy, BZP also requires you to drink buckets of water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

The G Child

binhead wrote: »

The BZP ones work, BUT, sleep is a massive problem after, like way after, an example..I was in Kennedies last night watching a wicked DJ. Nowt about so a BZP, a booga wooga, all good.

went to bed at 8am. Got up at 2 today. Slept for a grand total of four minutes. My head now hurts immensly.

typing this hurts..

So, BZP works if there's nothing else, but ultimately, it's a load of sh*te.

Couldn't agree more. I took BZP's a couple of weeks ago coz the real deal was proving hard to get, and they were a nightmare. I woke up the next day and was still feeling the effects, sweat was pumping out of me, heart was pounding and eyes were hangin out of my head. It's after putting me right off them.

The only reason I would consider them is if I had a big rave to go to and the real ones were hard to find. Instead of wasting time hunting them down in the rave you can buy these things handy enough. But it would definitely be the last resort

CATWOMEN

Hi has anyone go the address for the head store
in wexford, have been in town cant find it . Didnt like to ask passers by on the street

dr.bollocko

It might be best to post your question in the relevant regional forum.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=910 is there to help you with anything you might need on the wexford area. This is rather an old thread to bump for your rather specific question.