European Business (Transatlantic Studies)

jennyq

Is anybody doing this course? I'm thinking of adding it to my CAO but just wondering if anybody had any extra insight into what it's like? Especially the 2 years in America, it sounds like a great experience so I'm wondering if anybody could fill me in a little more about the course. Would it be better to do than just a normal Business degree? I'm caught between this & Actuarial Maths at the moment, basically between specialising with that & leaving my options open more with the business. Any info at all would be super!

scholes19

points are pretty high for this course -515pts best of luck

With the way the economists are portraying the economy at the moment, should anyone do Business? A lot of courses around DCU have the option of having a year abroad...My advice is, look at the job, not the course...I know someone will come on and totally disagree (which I welcome because free speech is win) with me but that's my 2c...

Winters

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With the way the economists are portraying the economy at the moment, should anyone do Business? A lot of courses around DCU have the option of having a year abroad...My advice is, look at the job, not the course...I know someone will come on and totally disagree (which I welcome because free speech is win) with me but that's my 2c...

You are a very smart and lovable person who has a very good idea of how the world works.

Regardless of how the economy fairs this should have no bearing on what course you do. Do whatever course you will enjoy, a large amount of people when leaving college go onto work in areas totally opposite to what their degree is or continue onto further studies in separate areas. A degree/course is just a way to further your education and not a ticket into doing that particular area of work for your life.

Also, it will be businesses who will help turn the tide of any possible economic downturn that may occur. The people who are doing business courses now or the ones who have just qualified will be the ones going onto boosting Irish business here and abroad. If we do indeed go into any sort of economic downturn it will be shorter than our last one due to our existing strong position and existing high education.

You are a very smart and lovable person who has a very good idea of how the world works.

Well I saw your original message that was drowned with attitude re another topic...but it's your opinion...anyways, that's neither here nor there...

OP, fair enough if you come from a background where your parents or yourself can afford college fees but imo I regret not looking into my course choice further. European Business with transatlantic studies sounds great but in practice, it is nothing more than 2 years abroad and business...

I am in the position at the moment where I am going to finish my course and then go into another. IE, one degree that I do nothing with and many loans

My problem was that I looked at the course and said thought to myself, I like computers, this is the course for me...However, when doing a bit of part-time work in an IT company, I saw first hand the work of a software engineer and I know that is not what I want to do...I do want to do the course however...

Now if you can understand that, you will see my point...college is 4 years, make sure you will have
a) a job
b) a job you enjoy

But, if you got money, you can do what you want...

g5fd6ow0hseima

Wincest is best! wrote: »

Regardless of how the economy fairs this should have no bearing on what course you do. Do whatever course you will enjoy, a large amount of people when leaving college go onto work in areas totally opposite to what their degree is or continue onto further studies in separate areas.

Well, no, incorrect, to go into studying in the construction industry now would be foolish to say the least, if all the IT firms decide to re-locate to Chittigong then going into Computer Apps wouldnt be the best roll of the dice would it?

I know what you mean about people doing course X and taking up job Y, but in business circles, it can be more limited than other courses, especially such a specialised course like this one, which on a good side, might have its prospects on the other side of the atlantic

gizmo

Yes but you also have to remember that degree courses last 3/4 years so the current economic situation may have no relevance to you by the time you finish your degree.

As Winters says, do the course you want to do, not only for your job prospects but also for yourself as you'll find it far easier to work at something you enjoy rather than something you're just doing to get a job out of at the end.

g5fd6ow0hseima

gizmo wrote: »

Yes but you also have to remember that degree courses last 3/4 years so the current economic situation may have no relevance to you by the time you finish your degree.

As Winters says, do the course you want to do, not only for your job prospects but also for yourself as you'll find it far easier to work at something you enjoy rather than something you're just doing to get a job out of at the end.

All within reason, doing construcation management now is a bit of a head stirrer

Your degree is recognisable over the EU? If so, you could always move to Poland or the Baltic states and wait for the building boom there...

Liopleurodon

OP, fair enough if you come from a background where your parents or yourself can afford college fees but imo I regret not looking into my course choice further. European Business with transatlantic studies sounds great but in practice, it is nothing more than 2 years abroad and business...

To chime in rather late (And therefore responding not to the OP, but in general for future people who happen to use the search function), I am a second year student of European Business and German. Before first year I barely knew anything of my course, that quickly changed and I knew I made the right choice. All European Business courses (four in total, Transatlantic; Spanish; French and German) are dual degrees, in other words the two years abroad are not equivocable to an erasmus, as you are a full student of both universities for two years, recieving two degrees from the respective universities. To put it in perspective: One degree is good, one degree from a prestigeous university is great, two degrees is excellent, two degrees from good/great universities - there is no adjective good enough to describe it.

The degrees vary from the partner universities, but in most cases the level of the degree is irrelevant as all of DCU's partner universities are highly prestigeous - The European School of Business in Reutlingen, Boston's Northeastern University, ICADE in Madrid and CESEM in Reims. Regardless of which link, you're recieving two degrees, one of which is very useful in your respective country of choice (When you think about it, no one blinks an eye at a degree from DCU, but the story is different with your second degree)

There are eight member universities of the International Partnership of Business Schools - the five above, as well as Lancaster University, Universidad de las Americas in Puebla Mexico and Universita Cattolica del Sacro Cuore in Piacenza, Italy. All degrees are fully recognised in Europe and the USA, therefore expanding the usefulness of your degree beyond Ireland and your choice of link.

There are two paid work placements in the four years - as far as I can remember, 6 weeks when in Dublin in the fourth semester and then I believe two or three months in the fifth or sixth (I can't really remember) semester in your respective university. Coupled with DCU's INTRA programme this is unrivaled in any course on offer, in DCU or elsewhere in Ireland.

But a word of warning - not necessarily to the OP but to others who might stumble across this thread in the future, I'm not entirely sure about EBT, EBS or EBF but in EBG the drop out and failure rate for the Irish students is quite high. Of roughly 12 Irish students in first year, two passed - I failed maths because I convinced myself studying maths was a lost cause, but am very confident I did quite well the second time around - only a few more hours to wait until I find out. If you put in the work it pays off, the course is great, the people are great, the degrees are great, and the experiences such as the International Business Weekend (drinking/networking weekend with all 8 partner universities and ~1,000 students) your two years abroad and the experience gained.

Yes but you also have to remember that degree courses last 3/4 years so the current economic situation may have no relevance to you by the time you finish your degree.

As well as this you have a wider scope, as I stated above, with the dual degrees, well known universities, dual work experience and in some cases language experience (however EBT students also have the option to study a language on the side, German/French intermediate or Spanish ab initio/intermediate if I remember correctly). These countries, although the entire world is being affected at the moment, do have quite large, different and dynamic economies, stocks may go into the red, however that doesn't translate to a lack of jobs for qualified and experienced people.

With the way the economists are portraying the economy at the moment, should anyone do Business? A lot of courses around DCU have the option of having a year abroad...My advice is, look at the job, not the course...I know someone will come on and totally disagree (which I welcome because free speech is win) with me but that's my 2c...

Your degree is recognisable over the EU? If so, you could always move to Poland or the Baltic states and wait for the building boom there...

Why would anyone want to do that? The housing market has burst in Ireland, and thank God it finally has. It was an over inflated and dangerous bubble - had it gotten any bigger, our fall would've been a lot harder. Politicians are resounding in unisen that we "revive" the housing market as a top economic priority - I call this pointless, unintelligent, not thought out and simply retarded. The Irish economy lacks diversity and competitiveness, and here the politicians are wanting to pick up the pieces of eggshells and put them all back in the basket that just fell over. Housing and construction are not sustainable economic activities in the long run. The market is correcting itself, and the government wants to act against it.

None of the Eastern European countries show the stupidity of Ireland by basing their main economic growth on an unstable and unsustainable activity. The Irish pussycat is dead, and the benefits of it - at least there are desperate landlords wanting students this year, better availability and lower prices!

Also, it will be businesses who will help turn the tide of any possible economic downturn that may occur. The people who are doing business courses now or the ones who have just qualified will be the ones going onto boosting Irish business here and abroad. If we do indeed go into any sort of economic downturn it will be shorter than our last one due to our existing strong position and existing high education.

Shorter? Based on what? This won't be as easy as people think, it's no hiccup - we are by no means in a 'Strong Position', the most overpaid people in the world, we're scaring off foreign investment with the price of labour alone, even with the second lowest corporation tax in Europe. Our economy was built on a weak, unstable and unsustainable activity - construction, this will leave the government out of pocket, with Trade Unions demanding even more money - oblivious to the simple economic relationship between rate of pay and rate of inflation: Give in, pay them with magical money, and watch inflation rise even further, along with unemployment in the private sector accruing to the construction bust.

I admire your enthusiasm as it certainly won't be the government who saves the day, but unfortunately I do not admire your naivity - education, and more business students won't solve this, nor will it be quick and easy. I don't intend to stick around after I'm done.