crash yesterday Gardai not interested

dade

my cousin was in a crash yesterday morning.

she was stopped at the lights and some bint went into the back of her. she pulled over as did another driver that that saw what happened, she knocked on the window of the car that hit her and the driver just took off down the road.

they managed to get a good description of the car and the full reg number. she went to the Garda and pretty much got the "what you want us to do about it" attitude.

what should she do? I've told her to go back to the station and give a statement and also ask the witness to do the same. then inform her insurance company of the incident.

no idea of what sort of damage was done to the car.

peasant

Last time I checked, leaving the scene of an accident was a criminal offence.

The guards better be interested.

dade

that's what i told her, hence why i said go back to the station and if the guy gives the same attitude to politely ask for a chat with his super.

i mean she has an independent witness that is willing to give a statement.

BlackAvon08

Yes I agree in an ideal world the Gardaí should have taken more action.

In the greater scheme of things (assuming there isn’t too much damage) it maybe easier to let it go. It may not really be worth the time & hassle pursuing this. In his/her own way I think that is what the Guard was trying to tell this lady.

L1011

BlackAvon08 wrote: »

Yes I agree in an ideal world the Gardaí should have taken more action.

In the greater scheme of things (assuming there isn’t too much damage) it maybe easier to let it go. It may not really be worth the time & hassle pursuing this. In his/her own way I think that is what the Guard was trying to tell this lady.

Someone going in to the back of you never leaves not-much damage and in 99 times out of 100, the person who hit you is automatically and fully at fault. A 10mph max rear-ending to my car on Tuesday has left just under a grand of damage!

De Hipster

I personally would be pursuing the matter, regardless of damage done. To drive into another vehicle & drive off, is NOT acceptable behaviour.

mkdon05

BlackAvon08 wrote: »

Yes I agree in an ideal world the Gardaí should have taken more action.

In the greater scheme of things (assuming there isn’t too much damage) it maybe easier to let it go. It may not really be worth the time & hassle pursuing this. In his/her own way I think that is what the Guard was trying to tell this lady.

It may not be worth the time and hassle to the Lazy ass Garda, but it will be to the op's cuz when you take into account insurance and no claims bonus etc....

Martron

yeah ppl are so inconsiderate. sitting in my car waiting to get out and a car attempted to park as close as he could beside me. then when his kid got out of the car hit the door off the car then when the driver got out hit my car again. so at this i gave him the evils. anyway he went up the road a bit but obviously forgot something and came back and seriously slammed his door into my car. at this i opened my door and asked would he appreciate if i did that to his car . he laughed and said relax. at that i hit his car with my door and got out. now i dented his car as he had to mine.

ppl are ass holes . keep at the gaurds til they do something.

i also had another occasion when going around the lusk by pass and someone bumped me twice once at each round about. his excuse was that he had no brakes. i said nothing the first time but the second time i flipped . i rang the guards and they said because it was a foreign reg they could do nothing

Alun

There could also be a reasonable assumption that someone who flees the scene like that, especially if the damage was relatively minor, might be hiding something else, like no insurance, tax, driving licence etc. I think it's absolutely scandalous that the guards weren't interested in something like this ... itwouldn't happen anywhere else, I can guarantee you.

NiSmO

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Beta Ray Bill

Do you mind me asking, where did this happen?

BlackAvon08

NiSmO wrote: »

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To be honest I wouldn’t let the incident get to me like that. If you can pursue it then great – if not then C'est la Vie. Why let it screw you up to the “bitter end”? :mad:

TIP: Put a towbar on the back of your car – that’s what I do!

giveth

Martron wrote: »

yeah ppl are so inconsiderate. sitting in my car waiting to get out and a car attempted to park as close as he could beside me. then when his kid got out of the car hit the door off the car then when the driver got out hit my car again. so at this i gave him the evils. anyway he went up the road a bit but obviously forgot something and came back and seriously slammed his door into my car. at this i opened my door and asked would he appreciate if i did that to his car . he laughed and said relax. at that i hit his car with my door and got out. now i dented his car as he had to mine.

You're lucky that incident didn't escalate into this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLb-a-EZiRI&feature=related

afatbollix

when someone crashed into my car in a car park.... i literally had to ring the super and tell him that im friends with god to get them to do anything... and they said back that i had been in alot of acidents... in the end i had to tell them which car it was and go to his house... it all seemed so simple but they put up a fight to do anything....

Martron

that hilarious thats how it started alright!!!!

NiSmO

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Dirty_Diesel

dade wrote: »

they managed to get a good description of the car and the full reg number. she went to the Garda and pretty much got the "what you want us to do about it" attitude.

Tell her to print out the form in the link below and go back to the station, asking the garda to help her fill in his details. He wont be long getting his finger out then

http://www.gardaombudsman.ie/GSOC/GSOC-1-form.pdf

dade

grahambo wrote: »

Do you mind me asking, where did this happen?

Dublin 3 area, around Fairview/clontarf. not 100% on where, but given that the witness was in the lane beside her I will assume Fairview/bottom of Malahide road/ clontarf road area

blackbox

Alun wrote: »

There could also be a reasonable assumption that someone who flees the scene like that, especially if the damage was relatively minor, might be hiding something else, like no insurance, tax, driving licence etc.

...or over the alcohol limit.

Gardai should definitely have acted on this.

Mc-BigE

was it an irish registered car?
why not name and shame on here (if ok with admins)

Put the make/model and reg number of the car on here and see if any of us see it around and report back?

peasant

Mc-BigE wrote: »

was it an irish registered car?
why not name and shame on here (if ok with admins)

Put the make/model and reg number of the car on here and see if any of us see it around and report back?

Ehhh ...No!

Let the gardai do their work (if and when they can be bothered)

Johnny Utah

BlackAvon08 wrote: »

Yes I agree in an ideal world the Gardaí should have taken more action.

In the greater scheme of things (assuming there isn’t too much damage) it maybe easier to let it go. It may not really be worth the time & hassle pursuing this. In his/her own way I think that is what the Guard was trying to tell this lady.

Exact same thing happened to my friend last year, where a foreign car ran into the back of him, then drove off. My friend rang the Guards but there didn't seem remotely interested at all- there a lazy shower of *****.

Oh and btw, even a low-speed rear impact can cause significant damage to the chassis, which may not be visible on the exterior of the car- C'est la vie as you say yourself.

craichoe

Johnny Utah wrote: »

Exact same thing happened to my friend last year, where a foreign car ran into the back of him, then drove off. My friend rang the Guards but there didn't seem remotely interested at all- there a lazy shower of *****.

Oh and btw, even a low-speed rear impact can cause significant damage to the chassis, which may not be visible on the exterior of the car- C'est la vie as you say yourself.

You should say he was wearing a balaclava and had f*ck the law spray painted on the side of the car.

buzzard

Someone hit the back of my car outside the Granite Pub in Palmerstown and drove off. Got the reg and make of car. Went to the cops in Ronanstown and the guy behind the desk was'nt interested. Turns out the car wasnt taxed nor insured for the last couple of years. He gave me the name & address of the owner and I knew by the address details that he was'nt responsible.

In the end, I had to fork out €600 for a new bumper. Moral of the story is that you can hit the back of anyone and get away with it but do 62 in a 60 and you are fcuked.

Jo King

What about the MIBI?

L1011

Jo King wrote: »

What about the MIBI?

Generally they won't pay unless they can track who was driving (they only cover personal injuries in a hit and run); but theres a point to be argued that someone was still registered keeper of the car and hence was liable for it...

dade

Mc-BigE wrote: »

was it an irish registered car?
why not name and shame on here (if ok with admins)

Put the make/model and reg number of the car on here and see if any of us see it around and report back?

it was Irish, some old woman driving it and no i wont be naming and shaming. far as i know she's going back to the station and making another formal complaint about it this time if she's fobbed off she's asking for the super

Clare_Guy

dade wrote: »

my cousin was in a crash yesterday morning.

she was stopped at the lights and some bint went into the back of her. she pulled over as did another driver that that saw what happened, she knocked on the window of the car that hit her and the driver just took off down the road.

they managed to get a good description of the car and the full reg number. she went to the Garda and pretty much got the "what you want us to do about it" attitude.

what should she do? I've told her to go back to the station and give a statement and also ask the witness to do the same. then inform her insurance company of the incident.

no idea of what sort of damage was done to the car.

ah come on, it was early, the gardai were probably only on their second breakfast rolls, you should call back some evening after dinner when their blood-salt levels are upto normal. i'm sure they'll sort it out then...

MrPudding

Martron wrote: »

. i rang the guards and they said because it was a foreign reg they could do nothing not be bothered doing anything

Fixed that for you.

MrP

Rowley Birkin QC

Martron wrote: »

seriously slammed his door into my car.

Urge to kill rising......:mad:


This would seriously piss me off, if the dent was bad enough I would be looking for some kinda cash off him there and then. Also the fact that he did it in full view of you and repeatedly would not help the situation at all.

WHITE_P

Alun wrote: »

There could also be a reasonable assumption that someone who flees the scene like that, especially if the damage was relatively minor, might be hiding something else, like no insurance, tax, driving licence etc. I think it's absolutely scandalous that the guards weren't interested in something like this ... itwouldn't happen anywhere else, I can guarantee you.

+1 bloody right.

Kimbot

Someone crashed into me a few years ago and fled.

Didn't get the reg but after posting on forums I was contacted by a witness the next morning who got the reg. I went to the guards and they weren't helpful at first but eventually caught him about 6 months later and made him pay up.

Nightwish

I came across a bad accident a few years ago a few miles outside Blessington. I had never been there before so I wasnt familiar with the area. I rang 999 and I explained the situation and tried to tell them my location i.e. info on landmarks, explaining how far I was from Blessington. The 999 operator shouted at me that it would be my fault if anything happened to the victims because the emergency services couldnt get to them because of my directions. I told him the road number, signposts I saw but he still kept at me. In the end he hung up.

quattro777

I rang the gards in Tuam last year to report dangerous driving, the woman on the other end said...."would you mind calling back in a half hour, they're changing shifts" I kid you not.

suzieb

sorry to hijack!

My boyfriends car was hit in middle of night last night outside our house in estate and whoever hit it flew off and didnt leave note or anything.

His car is destroyed...going to cost thousands supposedly-prob more than cars worth.

Does anyone know if fully comp insurance covers for things like this as its essentially a hit and run and we hav no reg or details except one of my neighbours saying its a "sky blue car"...

thanks

murphaph

BlackAvon08 wrote: »

To be honest I wouldn’t let the incident get to me like that. If you can pursue it then great – if not then C'est la Vie. Why let it screw you up to the “bitter end”? :mad:

because the next time the silly bint isn't paying attention she might sail through a zebra crossing with a member of YOUR family getting whacked as they cross.

To the OP: I was hit by a car on my motorcycle (put out of work for a few weeks, bike almost written off) and I got the same disgraceful 'couldn't care less' attitude from the boys in blue when I reported this driver leaving the scene (hit and run-I was on the ground when the w@nker drove off). The guards are fcuking useless incompetents.

murphaph

suzieb wrote: »

sorry to hijack!

My boyfriends car was hit in middle of night last night outside our house in estate and whoever hit it flew off and didnt leave note or anything.

His car is destroyed...going to cost thousands supposedly-prob more than cars worth.

Does anyone know if fully comp insurance covers for things like this as its essentially a hit and run and we hav no reg or details except one of my neighbours saying its a "sky blue car"...

thanks

If you have a witness that your car was hit by 'someone' who fled then you should be able to claim against the MIBI(?). Report it to the guards and get a reference number first and foremost. Then contact your own insurance company and ask them the procedure.

luvroad

Go back or phone the Garda Station in question. Find out the Gardas rank and number that you were talking to on the day of the accident. Next, phone the Garda Station in question and ask to speak to the Superintendent, if not available, arrange a meeting with him or her. Describe what happened on the day of the accident and how you were treated by the Gardai on duty in the station. We all pay well for this service! Good luck! The thing is, if people don't get a response from a Garda there's always a higher rank, who, after you've told your story,will sit up and listen. I guarantee you this will work. So don't lie down and let some jumped up little snotty nosed cop give you the elbow treatment!!
Make your stand for us all, and good luck.

Steve

suzieb wrote: »

Does anyone know if fully comp insurance covers for things like this as its essentially a hit and run and we hav no reg or details except one of my neighbours saying its a "sky blue car"...

Of course it does. That's what fully comp is for.
The only problem is (unless it's protected), you'll lose your no-claims.

It'd be well worth looking into what murphaph said above as an alternative, either way, you're covered for the damage.