The Final Exam..... Applied Maths.....

tramoredude

Anyone else a little annoyed? I know only a handful do it ( ~1000 ) but surely they could have squeezed it in somewhere a little earlier... My last exam was physics on Monday, Its such an agonising wait

I should go do some study but meh, the internet beckons.....

orangetictac

I've already had 3 exams this week so havent done any study for app maths.
Id say ill do bout 2 hrs tonight and all day 2moro.
Just prayin it all comes back to me!

turgon

OMG do you have a 1000 fingers???

Realistically, Im kinda freaked. Ive engineering on Friday morning (and App Maths) and Im not confident. Havent been doing a load of study. Hopes it all comes back...

raah!

No, he just has really big hands.

Yeah I found the wait kinda annoying too, Ive done ok enough in my first few exams too, so I'm not very motivated to study.

PurpleFistMixer

It's horrible. I've lost any motivation I may have had earlier in the exams. Being in "study mode" for over three weeks now is sucking the life out of me. I slept for over 12 hours last night for no apparent reason. Ugh. And the three exams this week (physics music app maths) I was hoping to be my main point-getting ones (after maths 1), but now I find like I couldn't care less.

Applied Maths after phyisics on Monday would have been nice, since they're both fairly logical subjects. I could see the problem though, since most people who do App Maths also do physics, and it'd be a long day. Still. I've done absolutely no app maths study today, been doing music all day (playing the piano counts as study, honestly ¬.¬)... it better be a nice paper.
I've noticed a trend of it getting easier over the years.. that or I'm just getting better. When I started my papers at the back, at 94 I was just depressed. I got the entire 2007 paper done in a little over 2 hours...
So, as much as we all hate to see the LC get dumbed down, for my own sake I'd like to see a nice paper on Friday. Give us a break, leaving cert, most of our friends have been on summer holidays for a week now...

postalservice

Yup.
I'd hate to end on a downer.
I'm hoping to answers 7 questions in the exam...it's possible i'd say:pac:

drunknmunky_69

Imagine doing applied maths and ag science.I dont do both thank god but those who do take both subjects don't finish their leaving cert until 8pm on Friday.bummer

Davidius

drunknmunky_69 wrote: »

Imagine doing applied maths and ag science.I dont do both thank god but those who do take both subjects don't finish their leaving cert until 8pm on Friday.bummer

But on the bright side th-
...
sucks to be them.

raah!

I've got a stinking suspicion (I'm sure that's the term) that this one is gonna be super hard to counter the joke that was 2007. A fifth of the apt mathsers got an A1 in 2007. I don't see what's 'is face allowing that to continue

PurpleFistMixer

Don't say that! It will be lovely. ¬.¬

Anyway, 2006 was pretty easy too.

raah!

Ah now, 2006 had some hard ones, specifically 9 and 2. (If I remember correctly)

But yeah, hopefully the guy has lost his zest and is just writing the papers to get paid.......and not for a good time, like he usually does

On the plus side, tomorrow the pressure will really be on, and I'm gonna study into the night. Since we don't have to wake up till 1: 50 tomorrow that should work out very well

PurpleFistMixer

Ahh, I don't do 9, and 2 is never nice, because it's relative velocity. Eugh.

Decerto

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

Ahh, I don't do 9, and 2 is never nice, because it's relative velocity. Eugh.

+1! I really dont like this question either tbh, i dunno why but compared to the other questions this one has absolutely no appealing aspects,

meeka

I'm not really too annoyed about it being on Friday, since I've Music tomorrow as well, so it wasn't just a lone exam ages after all my other ones.

Hopefully it will be a nice paper, I've put a fair bit of work into it this week (avoiding music completely, whoops) so it'd be annoying if it was just really hard for some reason. But the way I see it, they're never going to make more than a couple questions very difficult, at most!

ZorbaTehZ

raah! wrote: »

A fifth of the apt mathsers got an A1 in 2007. I don't see what's 'is face allowing that to continue

Seriously? I do remember coming out of the test thinking it was way too easy, but still that's a crazy figure.

raah!

Yup, 20-somethign percent, so more than a fifth even.It would be on here, that's where I got it www.examinations.ie . Look for the chiefs report.. or something along those lines, the statistics are everywhere anyway

Slashman X

Dropping down to Ordinary Level on the day, need all the points I can get after the Accounting fiasco

sd123

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

Seriously? I do remember coming out of the test thinking it was way too easy, but still that's a crazy figure.

(Bows head in shame at pitiful A2)

devinejay

Decerto wrote: »

+1! I really dont like this question either tbh, i dunno why but compared to the other questions this one has absolutely no appealing aspects,

I actually really like relative velocity, I think it's cause it's so different, you kinda have to think outside the box. Now statics, there's a useless question. Zero enjoyment there!!!

irish_boy90

you guys think 2006 question 2 was hard???
Thank god. was decide to split my revision over the 2 days.
questions 1,2 and 3 today and 4,5 and 10 on thursday.
Tried 2006 as the paper i would use to go over them.

found #2 to be a real hard one. A part took a good while to get wrong

will be heading into school on friday to do a day of maths before the exam.

raah!

irish_boy90 wrote: »

you guys think 2006 question 2 was hard???
Thank god. was decide to split my revision over the 2 days.
questions 1,2 and 3 today and 4,5 and 10 on thursday.
Tried 2006 as the paper i would use to go over them.

found #2 to be a real hard one. A part took a good while to get wrong

will be heading into school on friday to do a day of maths before the exam.

NO NO NO! do applied maths!! it will help alot more.

Caoimhe89

Damn about 2007... I'm praying for an easy paper.

I gotta say I like Rel. Velocity, but I'm not a fan of statics. I love dynamics tho (I am odd). Should I prepare 7 questions, or will 6 get me through on the day? Learning Rigid Body Motion is possible...

turgon

The reason there are so many A1's in applied maths is cause most people who do it in their own time, outside school, and put in effort.

HeartieDevil

I'm in two minds about the applied maths being so late. On the one hand, it's horrible having just that one hanging out there (my last exam was physics), but it's great to have the couple of days to study...so what the hell am I doing on here? Anyways, yeah, praying for an easy paper, I'm good with method but surprises screw me up! I'm hoping to do well enough, I have five good questions prepared, and then I'll do one of my weaker two, depending on which one looks easier out of Q.2 and Q.8.

purplegreendave

I'm sitting the exam but I've never gone to a class/done a question. Ever.


Any tips? I'm hoping my usual A grades in maths + physics (both honours) should stand to me...

ZorbaTehZ

purplegreendave wrote: »

I'm sitting the exam but I've never gone to a class/done a question. Ever.

Lmao, dude you have no chance. Don't even bother wasting your time.
You might be able to make an attempt at Q1a but thats about it.

MattD

tramoredude wrote: »

Anyone else a little annoyed? I know only a handful do it ( ~1000 ) but surely they could have squeezed it in somewhere a little earlier...

If they did that, then some other exam would be the final exam, and then people doing that subject would come on here and say the same thing

How could you possibly be annoyed?

Peleus

orangetictac wrote: »

I've already had 3 exams this week so havent done any study for app maths.
Id say ill do bout 2 hrs tonight and all day 2moro.
Just prayin it all comes back to me!

exact same for me. its so unfair. everyone else doing applied maths has had the whole week to study.

Adventure

here's my predictions for the exam:

for relative velocity : crossroads and wind appears to blow q

for newton's laws : wedge

for statics : joint rods

for differential eq : power or resistance

for moments of inertia : disc proof , disc rolling down an inclined plane

collisions : angle of deflection

circular : horizontal elastic bands & motion in a horizontal circle

projectiles :probably hitting a target:pac:

raah!

Adventure wrote: »

here's my predictions for the exam:

for relative velocity : crossroads and wind appears to blow q

for newton's laws : wedge

for statics : joint rods

for differential eq : power or resistance

for moments of inertia : disc proof , disc rolling down an inclined plane

collisions : angle of deflection

circular : horizontal elastic bands & motion in a horizontal circle

projectiles :probably hitting a target:pac:

Nice up till now I wasn't sure if I was even gonna do any projectiles revision, but I'll go over those target questions now

sholller17

purplegreendave wrote: »

I'm sitting the exam but I've never gone to a class/done a question. Ever.


Any tips? I'm hoping my usual A grades in maths + physics (both honours) should stand to me...

I did that for summer exam last year in applied maths. never opened a book before it and got 40percent. pretty usesless though. you should study q1, 4 and 10 and five.

MattD

purplegreendave wrote: »

I'm sitting the exam but I've never gone to a class/done a question. Ever.


Any tips? I'm hoping my usual A grades in maths + physics (both honours) should stand to me...

... If you do 6 or more honours, theres no point, cuz AM wont count. I know people who get As in Maths and Physics and arent going to count Applied Maths probably.

It doesnt seem like an exam that youl just be able to do on the day, considering a lot of these people are ****ting it already :P

tramoredude

purplegreendave wrote: »

I'm sitting the exam but I've never gone to a class/done a question. Ever.


Any tips? I'm hoping my usual A grades in maths + physics (both honours) should stand to me...

ahahaha

It really isn't anything like maths and it makes the physics mechanics section look like a joke

Cokehead Mother

purplegreendave wrote: »

I'm sitting the exam but I've never gone to a class/done a question. Ever.


Any tips? I'm hoping my usual A grades in maths + physics (both honours) should stand to me...

skoool.ie > applied maths. Have a look through hydrostatics, differential equations, impacts/collisions, relative velocity and projectiles. Then practise a few Q1, Q2, Q3, Q5, Q9 and Q10s.

All the best.

flint_72

thb i like that Applied Maths is at the end. ITs a nice one 2 finish on,n it means ur not dreadin a crap subkect durin the whole leavin. Ive had 2 so far this week,so ive gotten time 2 study for Applide maths 2 which is handy.
Wow,fair play dude if u can pass the Applied Maths exam without ever going 2 class r openin a book.Bu just 2 warn u as every1 has said,its compleately different to Maths,n the Physics Machinacs is nothing to it. That said,its a grand subject,n the markin scheme is so student friendly.ITs almost impossible 2 fail if u give 6 questions an attempt. Bu doin well 2 count it 4 points if ur hopin 4 As in Maths n Physics is another thing. Good luck anyway.

Peleus

there's no way you can get a good mark in applied maths without going to class. you can pass if you know the majority of the methods. Do Q1 and Q10, theyre the most maths related ones. the others would seem impossible if you hadnt seen the method before. look over sample questions and try your best! good luck

Stin

any chance someone could give me a hand with 2003 Q5 part B, its an impacts and collisions one. Im looking at the answer online, but i cant make sense of it, the bit where it says

tan(alpha)= -v/ [u sin(alpha)]

PurpleFistMixer

The mathsy stuff in physics is a walk in the park compared to applied maths.

Question 10 is basically just calculus though, so you may have a hope with that.

Slashman X

Stin wrote: »

any chance someone could give me a hand with 2003 Q5 part B, its an impacts and collisions one. Im looking at the answer online, but i cant make sense of it, the bit where it says

tan(alpha)= -v/ [u sin(alpha)]

Not an expert but maybe theres a trigonomic thingy in there, ie Log Tables

Cokehead Mother

Velocity before = uCosai + uSinai

Velocity after = v1i + uSinai (Call the angle of this vector

These two vectors are perpendicular, so the product of their slopes (or the tan of their angle) is -1.

tanatanB = -1

tana = -1/tanB

tanB = uSina/v1

tana = -v1/usina

Flashling

I'm actually frightened. Because of classics, I haven't studied at all... actually because I'm lazy I haven't studied at all, and now it's pretty much the day of the exam and all I've done is google applied maths! Oh dear...

Stin

ahhhh, thanks cokehead mother. these Q5's are actually quite doable. thats the only one so far out of like 10 questions that gave me trouble.

sd123

Stin wrote: »

any chance someone could give me a hand with 2003 Q5 part B, its an impacts and collisions one. Im looking at the answer online, but i cant make sense of it, the bit where it says

tan(alpha)= -v/ [u sin(alpha)]

EDIT:meh, went wrong way bout it, don't mind me, just passing through!!

raah!

That stin guy must be ****ing hideous. I can't believe he couldn't get that question. What a retard.

P.S has anyone ever seen a question 4 with a relative acceleration wedge/object and friction?

Stin

what a piece of ****

Cokehead Mother

raah! wrote: »

That stin guy must be ****ing hideous. I can't believe he couldn't get that question. What a retard.

Well that was certainly nasty and unjustified.

raah! wrote: »

P.S has anyone ever seen a question 4 with a relative acceleration wedge/object and friction?

I've seen friction between the ground and wedge(1986), but I don't think I've come across one with friction between the wedge and the object.

raah!

Stin wrote: »

what a piece of ****

That's it, I'm gonna ****ing fight you. Get your fights out.

Cokehead : thanks, guess that can't be too hard, I'll give it a look over now.

Edit: God what a waste of time that was stin, I was sitting here refreshing for like an hour waiting for your response. So much fo applied maths.

It's ok I know stin, so I can fight him when I see him

ToughyIRE

4.30 pm and its all over. Hoping for an easy paper.

SimpleLogic

lets go **** last ****in test . please be kind mister examiner AAAAAAAAA

Parsley

UUuuuuuuuggghhhhh.




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