Reality

thecaptain

Look,

while you can debate the Lisbon treaty all day long, the reality is as follows.

* It will be pushed through anyway, you are not free.
* Whats this about opt outs??? Even if an opt out is in place it does not have to be used. A mere ploy to get more turn coats to vote YES.
*The wagons have circled, and the push is on for a totalitarian EU state.
*The boys in the dail are nothing. 80% of all laws already come from the lads in Brussels. (the bureaucrats not the politicians).
* You will be issued with all manner of threats and doom/gloom stories.
* The government is not there to serve you, reverse your thinking.
*Politics is nothing more than a dog and pony show to please the public.

ionix5891

thecaptain wrote: »

Look,

while you can debate the Lisbon treaty all day long, the reality is as follows.

* It will be pushed through anyway, you are not free.
* Whats this about opt outs??? Even if an opt out is in place it does not have to be used. A mere ploy to get more turn coats to vote YES.
*The wagons have circled, and the push is on for a totalitarian EU state.
*The boys in the dail are nothing. 80% of all laws already come from the lads in Brussels. (the bureaucrats not the politicians).
* You will be issued with all manner of threats and doom/gloom stories.
* The government is not there to serve you, reverse your thinking.
*Politics is nothing more than a dog and pony show to please the public.

whatever you are smoking i want some of it! the above is very paranoid thinking and is no way represents the reality


if any of the above crazy points were true do you suggest we just rollover and do nothing about


the best thing (the only good thing?) to come out of this referendum is the healthy political debate in this country
the worst thing is every nut-job/paranoid, utra-nationalist and racist/xenophobic whacko seems to have crawled out of the woodwork over the last few days

marco_polo

http://anglopapist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tin-foil-hat.jpg

Quick! Help me pass these around.

turgon

So tell me thecaptain, when is the anarchist revolution starting? And where to we get the guns?

thecaptain

turgon wrote: »

So tell me thecaptain, when is the anarchist revolution starting? And where to we get the guns?

Are you mad??

The days of street fighting are over, with the technology these boys have you would be insane.

We need an educational revolution, people need to learn the facts.

The big boys are praying for riots as an excuse to introduce even more freedom grabbing laws.

marco_polo

turgon wrote: »

So tell me thecaptain, when is the anarchist revolution starting? And where to we get the guns?

Duh have to get a tinfoil hat first. :rolleyes: We can't arm you first and then risk "them" turning you on your own people with their mind control rays.

passive

DAMMIT, HE'S FOUND OUR PLANS! Quickly, go ahead with the reincarnation of Hitler directive that was hidden in the middle of the treaty. HEIL EU!

biko

marco_polo wrote: »

http://anglopapist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tin-foil-hat.jpg

Quick! Help me pass these around.

Grabs hat

Hitman Actual

thecaptain wrote: »

Look,

while you can debate the Lisbon treaty all day long, the reality is as follows.

* It will be pushed through anyway, you are not free.
* Whats this about opt outs??? Even if an opt out is in place it does not have to be used. A mere ploy to get more turn coats to vote YES.
*The wagons have circled, and the push is on for a totalitarian EU state.
*The boys in the dail are nothing. 80% of all laws already come from the lads in Brussels. (the bureaucrats not the politicians).
* You will be issued with all manner of threats and doom/gloom stories.
* The government is not there to serve you, reverse your thinking.
*Politics is nothing more than a dog and pony show to please the public.

Cutting through the matrix? You need to lay off the Alan Watt BS.

ShooterSF

I though about picking out each point in your post but then I slapped myself no what's the point. All I can say is I'm glad the extremists (I might say crazies but were not allowed to belittle a poster personally) on the no side are here to cancel FF's sheep on the yes. Other than make sure the hat's on good and tight.