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The way forward?

  • 17-06-2008 2:00pm
    #1
    Tim Robbins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭


    So what's the way forward now?
    Possibilities:
    1. Appease the no voters.
    Problem: The No voters and camps all want different things so how to do we appease them all - it's impossible!

    2. We can't just have another referendum unless Cowen comes up with something to add, or another opt out clause? What could that be?

    3. We rip up Lisbon and negotiate another treaty, how could Ireland do better and ensure a yes vote?

    4. We opt out of Lisbon, except for parts that don't need constituitional support. This could be a runner but we are definetly on the fringes of Europe then.

    What do you think will happen or is the best way forward?


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  • #2
    justfortherecor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭justfortherecor


    Part 4 is possible but John Palmer showed what a disaster this could be last night in Questions and Answers. A very possible scenario is that Irish commissioners would be able to negotiate with their european colleagues on issues up to and including those contained in the Nice Treaty.
    However, when it came to issues included in the Lisbon Treaty the Irish commissioners would not be able to contribute or have their say, or as John Palmer put it, they would 'have to leave the room' while the others negotiated.

    Indeed, this would leave us on the fringes of Europe and would reduce our influence hugely while the other 25 nations get on with business.


  • #3
    ImDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭ImDave


    Interesting article here on BBC:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7458839.stm


  • #4
    Tim Robbins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    EI-DAV wrote: »
    Interesting article here on BBC:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7458839.stm

    Personally what I hope happens is that other countries continue to ratify the treaty. The government here investigate why there was a no vote. Then then try to get clarfication on key areas and do something to appease fishermen and shell to sea gang in Mayo.

    There is another referendum. If we vote "no" it's clear to no people that we are then out of Lisbon and we have to negotiate a separate agreement for ourselves.

    The more media coverage there is on the consequences of no the better as I don't think that many people who voted no fully realised what could happen.


  • #5
    RedPlanet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭RedPlanet


    I suppose Brian Cowen could for instance, ask that Britain and the other countries in-waiting desist from ratifying.
    That would bolster the No side a fair bit.
    But by the looks of things, he's too busy pouting!


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