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yorkies

  • 16-06-2008 9:19pm
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    miniture yorkies :) sweet little things who likes yorkies:D
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭sunshine rose


    they are a bit to yappy for my liking but they are definitely cute!! there are 2 in a house near us and every time we walk by with our dog (a collie) they come out yapping and nipping at him,he gives one low growl and they scamper off! lol :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    they are a bit to yappy for my liking but they are definitely cute!! there are 2 in a house near us and every time we walk by with our dog (a collie) they come out yapping and nipping at him,he gives one low growl and they scamper off! lol :D
    there yappy alrite


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭tictac2580


    Aw...I love yorkies...have a ten year old male since he was 8 weeks..he's so spoiled...a right little baby!!...he's quite difficult to bring for a walk though...he really goes for other dogs so have to bring him to a nearby woods to try and avoid any especially any not kept on leads!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    yorkies are very protective and close 2 the owner


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    They are adorable little guys but no such thing as a "miniature" yorkie, they are already a Toy breed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Mmm Yorkies are lovely. I especially love them with a cup of coffee.Sugary goodness :pac::pac::pac: :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    there are different size yorkies,medium miniture,small,tcup known as toy i use to breed yorkies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    Mmm Yorkies are lovely. I especially love them with a cup of coffee.Sugary goodness :pac::pac::pac: :D

    were takkin 4 legged yorkies not choc :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    *sigh* this obviously means you were one of those unreputable backyard breeders if you were breeding "teacups"! a Yorkshire Terrier is a Yorkshire Terrier. It fits into the "Toy" catergory like Labradors fit into the "gundog" catergory, Lhasa Apso's fit into the "Utility" category etc! Don't believe me, check out the IKC, AKC, FCI etc!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    *sigh* this obviously means you were one of those unreputable backyard breeders if you were breeding "teacups"! a Yorkshire Terrier is a Yorkshire Terrier. It fits into the "Toy" catergory like Labradors fit into the "gundog" catergory, Lhasa Apso's fit into the "Utility" category etc! Don't believe me, check out the IKC, AKC, FCI etc!

    sorry but i am known for breeding and all my dogs were raised indoors and well cared for and every 1 health checked shows you dont no much about yorkies


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Patti D.


    Love Yorkies, we have one called Minnie who rules the roost in our house...wouldn't have it any other way!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    Patti D. wrote: »
    Love Yorkies, we have one called Minnie who rules the roost in our house...wouldn't have it any other way!

    clever looking 1 so she is:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    no, I'm not an expert on the breed by any means but luckily I can read the odd dog breed book here and there and know my breed categories. you should try it some time! There is one type of Yorkshire terrier, that is all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    no, I'm not an expert on the breed by any means but luckily I can read the odd dog breed book here and there and know my breed categories. you should try it some time! There is one type of Yorkshire terrier, that is all!

    there is 1 name on the yorkshier yes but open your eyes to the different sizes as im long enough aroud yorkies to no what om talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    I'm guessing if they are smaller than the breed standard that usually means runts have been bred to create smaller (unhealthy) dogs.

    basically, 1 name, 1 size standard. (slight variation on the breed standard obviously)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    nonsense. you dont know what your talking about. every breed of dog will have lines that differ in some way. same way that not all pups in the same litter are the same size,that doesnt mean the smaller ones are runts or unhealthy.
    every breed of dog got to where it is by breeding similar to similar. look at the different colours of labs,springer. or beagles where bred by breeding smalller hounds with smaller hounds until we ended up with the beagle. the different types of yorkies are just from different line of breeding. and just cos the lady calls the mini doesnt make her some sort of puppy peddler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Aimee_gleeson


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    I'm guessing if they are smaller than the breed standard that usually means runts have been bred to create smaller (unhealthy) dogs.

    basically, 1 name, 1 size standard. (slight variation on the breed standard obviously)

    Another thread on yorkies and i knew id find your name on it!

    I replied a really long message to you the last time on the other thread explaining stuff on it! You didn't write back to that, that time? I wonder why.. I can't find the thread atm but my main point was NOT ALL MINIATURE ETC "RUNTS" ARE THE PARENTS... :rolleyes:

    Not argueing here neither looking for one!! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    Another thread on yorkies and i knew id find your name on it!

    I replied a really long message to you the last time on the other thread explaining stuff on it! You didn't write back to that, that time? I wonder why.. I can't find the thread atm but my main point was NOT ALL MINIATURE ETC "RUNTS" ARE THE PARENTS... :rolleyes:

    Not argueing here neither looking for one!! ;)

    none of my yorlies are unhealthy every 1 is very healthy and are smaller than the medium breed all health checked wormed regastered microchipped and raised indoors and very much loved none are ever sick every 1 beleives in what they want i have yorkies miniture and 1 even smaller all well looked after .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    whitser wrote: »
    nonsense. you dont know what your talking about. every breed of dog will have lines that differ in some way. same way that not all pups in the same litter are the same size,that doesnt mean the smaller ones are runts or unhealthy.
    every breed of dog got to where it is by breeding similar to similar. look at the different colours of labs,springer. or beagles where bred by breeding smalller hounds with smaller hounds until we ended up with the beagle. the different types of yorkies are just from different line of breeding. and just cos the lady calls the mini doesnt make her some sort of puppy peddler.

    thank you ,, i have bloodline yorkies and you are right i am not a peddler any 1 that has baught puppys from me and did see mum dad and a sister from first litter . thanks again..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    There's not even an argument here, it's a fact that there is only 1 type of yorkie! If you are selling them as miniatures or teacups or whatever then you aren't what would be called a reputable breeder, unless you are breeding show quality dogs which as far as I know would mean the dogs fitting the breed standard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    mousey2 wrote: »
    thank you ,, i have bloodline yorkies and you are right i am not a peddler any 1 that has baught puppys from me and did see mum dad and a sister from first litter . thanks again..

    Did the puppies you sold come with their papers? If they did they would only say Yorkshire Terrier as that is the only recognised breed standard. You may have treated your dogs and puppies really well, done everything you could to keep them healthy and seen them all well homed. But that does not mean there is a such thing as miniature/teacup yorkies. They are just small yorkies, bred from two small yorkies.

    Your argument that there is a teacup yorkie because you've bred them is silly. I'm a fairly small person and if my husband was also small the odds are our children would be small. But that wouldn't make us teacup people, it would just make us people who are small. And miniature yorkies are just yorkies who are small.

    Also take dog like springer spaniels, they come in black and white, liver and white and occasionally black, liver and white. There are working springers, who's dominant colour is white and show springers who's dominant colour is black or liver. In working springers you have the traditional sturdy shape, with square faces and muscular bodies and you have those bred to promote agility with skinny legs and bodies, which are the current most popular search and rescue dogs. But each and everyone of those dogs is classified as a springer spaniel, even though they all have obvious physical differences. And don't even get me started on the physical variations in border collies.;)

    I'm not a huge fan of toy dogs anyway, I much prefer working breeds. I love nothing better than a long hike in nature with my two bounding buddies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    From WIKIpedia....but still:

    "The Yorkshire Terrier (often called simply the Yorkie) is a breed of small dog in the terrier category.The long-haired terrier is known for its playful demeanor and distinctive blue and tan coat.[Yorkies can be very small, usually weighing not more than 7 pounds (3.18 kg); the standard of this breed does not mention the minimum weight accepted nor does it specify a height"


    http://www.elvisyorkshireterrier.com/yorkie/yorkshire-terrier-breed.htm
    From AKC:
    "Weight
    Must not exceed seven pounds"

    Don't see anything about them having to be a certain size to fit the standard. But I'm no expert and only doing a quick web search,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Your argument that there is a teacup yorkie because you've bred them is silly. I'm a fairly small person and if my husband was also small the odds are our children would be small. But that wouldn't make us teacup people, it would just make us people who are small. And miniature yorkies are just yorkies who are small.

    I think it was the fact the person was jumped on as being a backyard breeder of disrepute just because they mentioned "teacup" yorkies, that is a bit annoying. Especially now that it has turned a viable thread into a slanging match. It is only a way to describe a size. It is just like saying "Black and Tan Cavalier". An adjective, that's all.

    That said, if the person is purposely breeding yorkies to be teacup (ie: runt), then it is not good. As they are generally of poor health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    Noopti wrote: »
    I think it was the fact the person was jumped on as being a backyard breeder of disrepute just because they mentioned "teacup" yorkies, that is a bit annoying. Especially now that it has turned a viable thread into a slanging match. It is only a way to describe a size. It is just like saying "Black and Tan Cavalier". An adjective, that's all.

    That said, if the person is purposely breeding yorkies to be teacup (ie: runt), then it is not good. As they are generally of poor health.
    exactly. calling them a mini or a teacup is just a prefix or description. the lady never said it was a seperate breed. but if someone is looking to get a smaller type yorkie they'll look for a mini or tea cup. thats all it is,.
    the runt off the litter isnt just the smallest. the runt rarely survives, cos its usually weak and propably has something wrong with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    There's not even an argument here, it's a fact that there is only 1 type of yorkie! If you are selling them as miniatures or teacups or whatever then you aren't what would be called a reputable breeder, unless you are breeding show quality dogs which as far as I know would mean the dogs fitting the breed standard.
    how do you know if she reputable or not? if she breeding healthy well bred pups and shes not just breeding for cash, then good luck to her. have you any experience of breeding dogs?
    every breed has different types. look at the difference between ikc reg working and show springers, both reg but look poles apart. same goes for labs etc.....
    a cos a certain line of dog doesnt match the breed standard doesnt mean they are being bred runt-runt or that they are unhealhty etc....
    how do you think we ended up with giant,med,mini snauzhers etc....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    whitser wrote: »
    how do you know if she reputable or not? if she breeding healthy well bred pups and shes not just breeding for cash, then good luck to her. have you any experience of breeding dogs?

    A huge amount of vets are very opposed to selectively breeding yorkies smaller and smaller. They are a small dog to begin with, so encouraging a pregnancy in a smaller than average yorkie can be very dangerous for the mother and the pups. For example, have you ever seen a human child who has more physically in common with a more distant relative than their parents. Well the same thing can happen with dogs, so you can take a pair of small yorkies and breed them, but the pups can take after a larger family member and grow big enough to kill themselves and/or their mother.

    Plus that breeding dogs in order to continue physical characteristics makes inbreeding far, far more likely. And this can cause physical and mental health problems.

    And a lot of people find the practice of selectively breeding an animal for their looks to be morally grey. It's one thing to breed dogs for their work abilities, as if you want a sheep dog breeding a collie and a springer would be moronic. Or a lab and a lurcher would make an appalling guide dog for the blind. But breeding for looks is a bit odd if you think about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    iguana wrote: »
    A huge amount of vets are very opposed to selectively breeding yorkies smaller and smaller. They are a small dog to begin with, so encouraging a pregnancy in a smaller than average yorkie can be very dangerous for the mother and the pups. For example, have you ever seen a human child who has more physically in common with a more distant relative than their parents. Well the same thing can happen with dogs, so you can take a pair of small yorkies and breed them, but the pups can take after a larger family member and grow big enough to kill themselves and/or their mother.

    Plus that breeding dogs in order to continue physical characteristics makes inbreeding far, far more likely. And this can cause physical and mental health problems.

    And a lot of people find the practice of selectively breeding an animal for their looks to be morally grey. It's one thing to breed dogs for their work abilities, as if you want a sheep dog breeding a collie and a springer would be moronic. Or a lab and a lurcher would make an appalling guide dog for the blind. But breeding for looks is a bit odd if you think about it.

    But they never said they were specifically breeding them for size?! Yet they were jumped upon, all they said was that they breeds Yorkies and there are different sizes! They never said, "You are wrong, because I breed every size"

    Again, maybe they do purposely breed for size, which is wrong. But they didn't say this, and that is why I think it is unfair to suddenly class them as a backyard breeder of ill repute, without knowing the facts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    iguana wrote: »
    A huge amount of vets are very opposed to selectively breeding yorkies smaller and smaller. They are a small dog to begin with, so encouraging a pregnancy in a smaller than average yorkie can be very dangerous for the mother and the pups. For example, have you ever seen a human child who has more physically in common with a more distant relative than their parents. Well the same thing can happen with dogs, so you can take a pair of small yorkies and breed them, but the pups can take after a larger family member and grow big enough to kill themselves and/or their mother.

    Plus that breeding dogs in order to continue physical characteristics makes inbreeding far, far more likely. And this can cause physical and mental health problems.

    And a lot of people find the practice of selectively breeding an animal for their looks to be morally grey. It's one thing to breed dogs for their work abilities, as if you want a sheep dog breeding a collie and a springer would be moronic. Or a lab and a lurcher would make an appalling guide dog for the blind. But breeding for looks is a bit odd if you think about it.
    listen i keep working dogs, and breed them. my only consideration when breeding is working ability. but are not all show dogs bred for looks? we know nothing about this girl,if she's breeding healhty pups from healthy parents and not just in it for cash then good luck to her. and if she breeding off a long line of mini yorkies then chances are the pups will be mini too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    iguana wrote: »
    Did the puppies you sold come with their papers? If they did they would only say Yorkshire Terrier as that is the only recognised breed standard. You may have treated your dogs and puppies really well, done everything you could to keep them healthy and seen them all well homed. But that does not mean there is a such thing as miniature/teacup yorkies. They are just small yorkies, bred from two small yorkies.

    Your argument that there is a teacup yorkie because you've bred them is silly. I'm a fairly small person and if my husband was also small the odds are our children would be small. But that wouldn't make us teacup people, it would just make us people who are small. And miniature yorkies are just yorkies who are small.

    Also take dog like springer spaniels, they come in black and white, liver and white and occasionally black, liver and white. There are working springers, who's dominant colour is white and show springers who's dominant colour is black or liver. In working springers you have the traditional sturdy shape, with square faces and muscular bodies and you have those bred to promote agility with skinny legs and bodies, which are the current most popular search and rescue dogs. But each and everyone of those dogs is classified as a springer spaniel, even though they all have obvious physical differences. And don't even get me started on the physical variations in border collies.;)

    I'm not a huge fan of toy dogs anyway, I much prefer working breeds. I love nothing better than a long hike in nature with my two bounding buddies.

    a very small puppy is nown as tcup to a lot of people and a tcup stays very small just let it be now and all my puppys do go with there papers yes and i dont be 2 long at my computer as i do have things to do juring the day .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    Noopti wrote: »
    I think it was the fact the person was jumped on as being a backyard breeder of disrepute just because they mentioned "teacup" yorkies, that is a bit annoying. Especially now that it has turned a viable thread into a slanging match. It is only a way to describe a size. It is just like saying "Black and Tan Cavalier". An adjective, that's all.

    That said, if the person is purposely breeding yorkies to be teacup (ie: runt), then it is not good. As they are generally of poor health.

    i just want to say i do not purposly breed and i amnot a backyard breeder
    just want to clear that part any searching will find tcup yorkies more common in america......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    whitser wrote: »
    how do you know if she reputable or not? if she breeding healthy well bred pups and shes not just breeding for cash, then good luck to her. have you any experience of breeding dogs?
    every breed has different types. look at the difference between ikc reg working and show springers, both reg but look poles apart. same goes for labs etc.....
    a cos a certain line of dog doesnt match the breed standard doesnt mean they are being bred runt-runt or that they are unhealhty etc....
    how do you think we ended up with giant,med,mini snauzhers etc....

    just want to say im not in it for the money my puppys are well bred and 1 tiny 1 i had i sat with as he was so small and got up every hour night and day to make sure he was feeding he is now very healthy and strong he has no problems with health .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    Another thread on yorkies and i knew id find your name on it!

    I replied a really long message to you the last time on the other thread explaining stuff on it! You didn't write back to that, that time? I wonder why.. I can't find the thread atm but my main point was NOT ALL MINIATURE ETC "RUNTS" ARE THE PARENTS... :rolleyes:

    Not argueing here neither looking for one!! ;)
    i dont no what other thread you found as i just started this 1.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭KhuntChops


    Well I dont think Aimee_gleeson was talking to you I think she may have been talking to Kerrygold????

    I think this has became a case of the OP being misunderstood,i dont think the op can put her points across to well and people are picking things up wrong as a result. I would however ask the op to pick up a book on yorkies and give it a good read as you dont seem to no an awful lot about them,god knows I no all there is an my personal breed as does whitser from what I have read. It doesnt come across well,the idea of you not known about them but breeding them.

    Just out of curiousity,has both dam and sire been tested for any herditery dieases?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


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    this is little lar man.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 mousey2


    KhuntChops wrote: »
    Well I dont think Aimee_gleeson was talking to you I think she may have been talking to Kerrygold????

    I think this has became a case of the OP being misunderstood,i dont think the op can put her points across to well and people are picking things up wrong as a result. I would however ask the op to pick up a book on yorkies and give it a good read as you dont seem to no an awful lot about them,god knows I no all there is an my personal breed as does whitser from what I have read. It doesnt come across well,the idea of you not known about them but breeding them.

    Just out of curiousity,has both dam and sire been tested for any herditery dieases?
    my dogs are very healthy no problems with any i am not insulting any1 what did start out as a page to get to no people turned out 2 be a snapping room my mum also bred yorkies before me , i no what im doing i dont just breed 4 money and if i had a puppy with problems i would not sell to any1 i would take care of my self but thank god i never had .now leave it at that if yeas dont mind.........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭KhuntChops


    Thats fair enough but I think its safe to say they havent been tested....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭bigpinkelephant


    Lads I honestly think the OP's heart is in the right place...

    She comes across as a much more genuine animal lover than the la-di-dah types who care about nothing but the dog's appearance and the breed standard and will stop at feck all to get it... "I'll just breed to get their noses a LITTLE bit more squashed...I won't show any concern to the fact that it will impair their breathing because I want my rossette"...

    Don't get me wrong, I am not saying all show dog breeders are snobs, but I would have much more of a problem with someone who, say, docked their dog's tail purely for appearance purposes in order to meet a breed standard, than I would with someone like the OP.
    She seems to be more of a practical type of dog breeder rather than someone who has their nose in a breed standard aiming for things that will probably make her dogs less healthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Patti D. wrote: »
    Love Yorkies, we have one called Minnie who rules the roost in our house...wouldn't have it any other way!

    We had a Yorkie for 10 years. Great animal and very faithful. They have the name of being snappy, but, like any dog, it depends on how you train and treat them. grew up with three tots - so didn't have it easy. And he was brilliant with them.

    People used always advise us to put him outside as soon as the babies came home. We never did it. Just left him have a sniff of the moses basket and a look at the baby and he was fine. Never left alone with any of them of course.

    Our one was a very fussy eater. But sure I'm a fussy eater myself!:D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    We have one, he'll be 11 next month. Smart little fecker, sometimes seems to twig what's going on when you don't even say anything. He has a strong dislike for cats! I love his colour.

    His left hind leg is pretty knackered now (ligaments) so he can't really put any weight on it. Don't think anything can be done, vet said he's too old for surgery.:( He's a mini.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    whitser wrote: »
    how do you know if she reputable or not? if she breeding healthy well bred pups and shes not just breeding for cash, then good luck to her. have you any experience of breeding dogs?
    every breed has different types. look at the difference between ikc reg working and show springers, both reg but look poles apart. same goes for labs etc.....
    a cos a certain line of dog doesnt match the breed standard doesnt mean they are being bred runt-runt or that they are unhealhty etc....
    how do you think we ended up with giant,med,mini snauzhers etc....

    No, I haven't, because I don't intend to ad to the huge overpopulation problem in this country!

    just because a dog has papers doesn't mean anything, any purebred dog can be registered with the IKC afaik.

    Basically, if you're dogs aren't show standard, top quality, health tested Yorkies, then you shouldn't be breeding them. Anybody describing Yorkies (or any other breed for that matter) as "mini" or "teacup" are NOT a reputable breeder. It is pretty much the same as the new fad of "designer dogs" e.g. "maltipoos" etc.
    i just want to say i do not purposly breed and i amnot a backyard breeder
    so why don't you get your dog's spayed/neutered? there is no such thing as "accidental breeding" since it's up to you to get your dogs neutered/spayed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭bigpinkelephant


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    Anybody describing Yorkies (or any other breed for that matter) as "mini" or "teacup" are NOT a reputable breeder. It is pretty much the same as the new fad of "designer dogs" e.g. "maltipoos" etc.

    I have read a lot of your posts and I do agree that this fad of designer dogs is stupid.

    However describing a small Yorkie as "teacup" does NOT make someone a backyard breeder. It's just an adjective, the same as "brunette" or "petite".
    As for it being the same as "maltipoos" etc, I have seen plenty of "Sprollies" looking for homes on Pets Ireland, does that mean the shelter who is looking for a home for them is bad and should be shut down?

    I agree with your points about breeding healthy dogs, wanting to avoid adding to the population, designer dogs etc but there is no need for you to automatically label the OP as a backyard breeder, which is a derogatory term.

    Mousey I would love to see some more photos of your dogs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    double post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    The problem is, is that some people actually think that these dogs described as "teacups" are actually a different type of Yorkie, and of course, "breeders" are only too happy to cater for this ignorance with a seemingly endless supply of poorly bred dogs.

    As for the Sprollies, a rescue putting a fun name on what is quite a common mix is a lot different as they aren't actually breeding them on purpose and trying to make extra money from putting a name on a mix and trying to sell it as some extraordinary new breed or whatever these breeders/buyers think these designer/teacup/mini/micro dogs are. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭bigpinkelephant


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    The problem is, is that some people actually think that these dogs described as "teacups" are actually a different type of Yorkie, and of course, "breeders" are only too happy to cater for this ignorance with a seemingly endless supply of poorly bred dogs.

    Would you not agree that this ignorance is the fault of the prospective owner? It is up to them to research an animal before buying it, rather than going to the breeder/pet shop without a clue.
    kerrysgold wrote: »
    As for the Sprollies, a rescue putting a fun name on what is quite a common mix is a lot different as they aren't actually breeding them on purpose and trying to make extra money from putting a name on a mix and trying to sell it as some extraordinary new breed or whatever these breeders/buyers think these designer/teacup/mini/micro dogs are. :rolleyes:

    My aunt had a Pug and a Jack Russell, other family members loved the dogs and were looking for dogs themselves so she let the Pug and Jack Russell have a litter. She used to call them "Jugs". I'd better go tell her she is a backyard breeder and the scum of the earth. She had loving homes within her family waiting on the pups before they were even born but even so, I am disgusted at her now. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    What was wrong with adopting some pups instead? The rescues are constantly overflowing with dogs, there is no need to breed more if some family members want some dogs! If my family or friends wanted a dog I'd tell them to go and adopt one, I wouldn't go and let my dogs breed and give them the pups! (my dogs are neutered and spayed anyway!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭KhuntChops


    I think its safe to say at this point the thread has gone off topic slightly,theres never going to be a right and wrong between kerrygolds point and nootis point,it will contunie to go around in circles. OP started the thread for people to admire the breed,I have my doubts about certain things the op said but its clear she is not a backyard breeder,if anything I think it seems the op may be a young girl whose mother breeds the dogs?????

    Anyway enough of the arguements,i think this thread has ran its course!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭shinners007


    However describing a small Yorkie as "teacup" does NOT make someone a backyard breeder
    I agree.

    I have a yorkie, some people call her a tea cup, some a mini and so on but she is a yorkie. However the yorkie breed does come in different sizes due to breeding lines etc., I dont personally believe everyone who is selling a "mini yorkie" is doing so to gain extra money if both the parents are very small or "mini" then the pups will be small in size also. The fact is people now refer to the yorkshire breed as having different sizes like a standard yorkie, toy yorkie, teacup fact is their just small yorkies, people aren't saying there not yorkies their simply saying their is different size yorkies which obviously there is due to the breeding of them over the years.

    Would you not agree that this ignorance is the fault of the prospective owner? It is up to them to research an animal before buying it, rather than going to the breeder/pet shop without a clue.
    -- brilliant point and this is why forums like this are so important and educational to others.
    what was wrong with adopting some pups instead? The rescues are constantly overflowing with dogs, there is no need to breed more if some family members want some dogs! If my family or friends wanted a dog I'd tell them to go and adopt one, I wouldn't go and let my dogs breed and give them the pups! (my dogs are neutered and spayed anyway!)
    -- why must the debate of rescue vs buying a pet always have to be brought into topics, the fact is some prefere to rescue some like to buy animals some do both, (neither makes one person a better person or pet owner than the other, the care love and time given to the pet throughout their life is what matters the most)everyone has the choice and the right to decide which option suits them best. However i must add that as a breeder myself i do believe that reputable breeders test their animals suitability for breeding and health status before breeding but again that is just my opinion. I believe that an animal should not be breed from because their cute or lovely but because their suitable and healthy to be breed from. Also this notion that breeding a dog for show quality or to show standard is ok is a total joke, how many champion or pedigree dogs have genetic disorders or infact have been tested before breeding?? Not a lot... instead they use the term "champion bloodlines" to try sell the pups instead!! Instead of showing evidence of health testing and vet checks etc.

    btw thanks kerrygold for the link it is excellent and differientates between reputable and unreputable breeders excellently.

    And to the OP - yes yorkies are adorable, a fab breed that require time, training and lots of attention espically when as a pup and when toilet training ( in fairness my one wasnt too bad to train but ive heard from others who cant train theirs!!) i love my lilo to pieces and think she is a clever cheeky and sometimes yappy little thing but id never consider breeding her as i dont know anything about breeding yorkies so i had her spayed, she's a typical yorkie loves her comforts and treats!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭bigpinkelephant


    kerrysgold wrote: »
    What was wrong with adopting some pups instead? The rescues are constantly overflowing with dogs, there is no need to breed more if some family members want some dogs! If my family or friends wanted a dog I'd tell them to go and adopt one, I wouldn't go and let my dogs breed and give them the pups! (my dogs are neutered and spayed anyway!)


    Well her family members wanted to make sure they were getting puppies that they knew were coming from healthy, well looked after parents. Do you have a problem with that?


    There is a bad smell of tar in this thread and I could take a good guess who is holding the brush...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 969 ✭✭✭kerrysgold


    that's no excuse for not adopting, any dog that has had pups in a shelter will be well looked after. even going to a good breeder would be better than letting you're own dogs breed to order :rolleyes:


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