Repeat your LC to do law ??? yeah or no

Brooke01

Hi,

Ok this year I consider I got around 460 in my leaving cert. And I was hoping for 500 or over but I was speculating is it worth it repeating your leaving cert all over again. I have a good interest in law but still not sure should I repeat my LC all over again, just to get into law. Does it have a major advantage when getting jobs in have a law degree etc even it’s not a solicitor or barrister. If I don’t repeat my second choice was the Arts
Would you do it???

skyhighflyer

As someone who just finished law in UCD I'd say it's not worth the bother to repeat just to get into it. You don't need a law degree to become a solicitor anyway and the large firms alreasy hire a significant number of non law graduates every year and that's only going to increase in the future.

If you got 300 points I'd say repeat but 460 and a decent degree in any discipline isn't going to hold you back from becoming a lawyer.

dajaffa

IIRC this year is the last year of the 3 year programme, so if you repeat to get in it'll be a four year degree. I don't know much about the degree but I repeated and if you really want the course and didn't put 100% into the LC then do seriously consider repeating, it was the best decision I ever made and it was actually good craic too!

Brooke01

dajaffa wrote: »

IIRC this year is the last year of the 3 year programme, so if you repeat to get in it'll be a four year degree. I don't know much about the degree but I repeated and if you really want the course and didn't put 100% into the LC then do seriously consider repeating, it was the best decision I ever made and it was actually good craic too!

what ways help you to get over repeating your LC ?? what help you to motivate your self .... any tips ??

gubbie

dajaffa wrote: »

IIRC this year is the last year of the 3 year programme, so if you repeat to get in it'll be a four year degree. I don't know much about the degree but I repeated and if you really want the course and didn't put 100% into the LC then do seriously consider repeating, it was the best decision I ever made and it was actually good craic too!

Taking into account that Dajaffa repeated to get Physiotherapy. The only other way into that would be to get a degree in some other health science and then reenter the process at the first level. Law on the other hand is completely different. There are so many people out there who do other degree's and then go onto become solicitors or barristers. All you need is a degree in anything. Infact I'd say Dajaffa could go and become a solicitor. Her thing could be specialising in health related cases

dajaffa

Brooke01 wrote: »

what ways help you to get over repeating your LC ?? what help you to motivate your self .... any tips ??

Tbh if you decide yourself that you're willing to go and repeat, especially if you've done ok and could just do a different course, you won't be lacking in motivation. It is a lot easier the second time round, I took up 2 subjects but could drop what I didn't like and was mostly revising stuff. Being with other people who are repeating builds a sense of commorardarie and that helped me no end compared to be repeating with people doing it for the first time.

Brooke01

dajaffa wrote: »

IIRC this year is the last year of the 3 year programme, so if you repeat to get in it'll be a four year degree. I don't know much about the degree but I repeated and if you really want the course and didn't put 100% into the LC then do seriously consider repeating, it was the best decision I ever made and it was actually good craic too!

Do you consider it was worth repeating your LC to get into your first choice course??

dajaffa

Brooke01 wrote: »

Do you consider it was worth repeating your LC to get into your first choice course??

Definitly. I knew physio was what I wanted and in the grand scheme of things a year really is nothing.

Brooke01

dajaffa wrote: »

Definitly. I knew physio was what I wanted and in the grand scheme of things a year really is nothing.

really. thanks you really helped

Dave!

Just cos dajaffa felt it was worth it doesn't mean that you will!

Take your time and make the right decision for yourself

_JOE_

Dave! wrote: »

Take your time and make the right decision for yourself

Dave's right, it's important to take your time and look at all possibilities before making such a decision...from my experience, from the trainees that were accepted this year along with myself to a top three law firm were not all from pure law backgrounds...indeed at least 4 previously studied commerce, whilst others did Business and Legal studies...

Stepherunie

Many would say that going into law with a non law background is nearly better.

Have you got B&L on your CAO?

That tends to be lower points than pure law and whilst you'd want to be interested in business to at the same time but you'd still be all qualified to do the law exams.

Goodluck2me

Stepherunie wrote: »

Many would say that going into law with a non law background is nearly better.

Have you got B&L on your CAO?

That tends to be lower points than pure law and whilst you'd want to be interested in business to at the same time but you'd still be all qualified to do the law exams.

with 460 id imagine commerce is a better bet than B&L which is usually low 500's high 400's.

leavo08

Im in the exact same position as you, but what Im doing is putting down bess, b&l, then commerce, incase any of their points go down, you never know what might happen! over summer I will weigh up my options and might contact law firms to see which colleges they employ most graduates from...

Goodluck2me

leavo08 wrote: »

II will weigh up my options and might contact law firms to see which colleges they employ most graduates from...

The courses with lower points generally have higher places so therefore more people so this could be misinformation. I.e. there are say 1,000 commerce and 50 BnL the points for BnL would be higher, and say the course is better, but any firm will recruit more from commerce due to the numbers. Take that into a/c.

Stepherunie

goodluck2me wrote: »

with 460 id imagine commerce is a better bet than B&L which is usually low 500's high 400's.

I go by my careers teachers old addage, and indeed that of the cao. Put down not what you think you will have the points for, but what you want to do.

So Law, B&L and Commerce could all be on the CAO.

Goodluck2me

Stepherunie wrote: »

I go by my careers teachers old addage, and indeed that of the cao. Put down not what you think you will have the points for, but what you want to do.

So Law, B&L and Commerce could all be on the CAO.

i agree 100% thats how you should do it, just its unlikely that it will come through so be prepared.

randomchild

Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but if you are purely intrested in becoming a solicitor or barrister, then after a degree of any kind, you can go on and do a law postgrad in DIT, which is designed for non-law graduates to pass their exams to enter the law field.

gubbie

Also is there anyway you can travel? I think Law in UCC is less... and Law and German is pretty low too

Cannibal Ox

I think wait till you get your results before making any decisions. Everyone analyses their exams but, I know for me at least, they can be a bit off at the best of times. You might surprise yourself, so I'd say wait until you have your results in your hand before making any decisions. For gods sake you've just finished your LC, relax

On the other hand...you can do the bar exams after you've done a degree in anything, see here, and its probably also worth checking this out too for other general info.

simonrooneyzaga

dont repeat. just do arts.

superLeetive

Brooke01 wrote: »

Hi,

Ok this year I consider I got around 460 in my leaving cert. And I was hoping for 500 or over but I was speculating is it worth it repeating your leaving cert all over again. I have a good interest in law but still not sure should I repeat my LC all over again, just to get into law. Does it have a major advantage when getting jobs in have a law degree etc even it’s not a solicitor or barrister. If I don’t repeat my second choice was the Arts
Would you do it???

leavo08 wrote: »

Im in the exact same position as you, but what Im doing is putting down bess, b&l, then commerce, incase any of their points go down, you never know what might happen! over summer I will weigh up my options and might contact law firms to see which colleges they employ most graduates from...

I'm in a similar position to you two - I have Law and French in UCD #1 on my CAO but I didn't put in enough work so I reckon I only got about 460-470. I think I'm definitely going to repeat though but I don't want to pay to go to a grind school to repeat and none of the schools around where I live take repeat students so I'll just have to study at home and resit as an external student in my school. Where were you thinking of repeating Brooke?

Brooke01

superLeetive wrote: »

I'm in a similar position to you two - I have Law and French in UCD #1 on my CAO but I didn't put in enough work so I reckon I only got about 460-470. I think I'm definitely going to repeat though but I don't want to pay to go to a grind school to repeat and none of the schools around where I live take repeat students so I'll just have to study at home and resit as an external student in my school. Where were you thinking of repeating Brooke?

i hope to repeat at my old school :)

dajaffa

On a related note if anyone in south Dublin/north Wicklow wants to repeat I highly recommend St Laurences in Loughlinstown, especially if you feel you were a touch on the lazy side first time around!

dets

hey, if it's wat u really want and u think u wil work for it than def repeat, i did this year and i hav absolutely no regrets wat so ever. i decided to repeat because i knew myself dat i didnt do my best n had changed my mind a few months b4 my exams dat i wanted to do pharmacy. of course it's not easy repeatin n watchin your friends all go to college but if dey really ar ur friends dey'l stil b der wen it's al ovr. i decided to change schools too n dat scared d **** out of me but was infact the thing dat made me really enjoy my year. although u do really need to think about ur decision, u might hav d best intentions in d world of studying really hard but wen it cums down to it tings dnt always go to plan, i speak from experience. even after repeatin im left regretin not workin as hard as i shud hav, stil im happy enuf dat i did do alot better n even if i hav to end up doin my course in d uk im happy wit dat cause at least im doin sumtin i want to do. dont do arts for the sake of goin 2 college, friends of mine that wer considerin repeatin jus tuk their course n dey ar regretin it now, none of them did the course they wanted n as a result hated it, sum even hatin college n as a result sum ar droppin out nd reapplyin to do different courses. it's a hard decision to mak but really it is only one year of ur life verses regretin it for ur whole life!! hope iv helped!

AnMoralltach

dajaffa wrote: »

On a related note if anyone in south Dublin/north Wicklow wants to repeat I highly recommend St Laurences in Loughlinstown, especially if you feel you were a touch on the lazy side first time around!

if you wish to repeat your leaving cert in guantanamo bay-esque conditions that is of course!

kowloon

dets wrote: »

hey, if it's wat u really want and u think u wil work for it than def repeat, i did this year and i hav absolutely no regrets wat so ever. i decided to repeat because i knew myself dat i didnt do my best n had changed my mind a few months b4 my exams dat i wanted to do pharmacy. of course it's not easy repeatin n watchin your friends all go to college but if dey really ar ur friends dey'l stil b der wen it's al ovr. i decided to change schools too n dat scared d **** out of me but was infact the thing dat made me really enjoy my year. although u do really need to think about ur decision, u might hav d best intentions in d world of studying really hard but wen it cums down to it tings dnt always go to plan, i speak from experience. even after repeatin im left regretin not workin as hard as i shud hav, stil im happy enuf dat i did do alot better n even if i hav to end up doin my course in d uk im happy wit dat cause at least im doin sumtin i want to do. dont do arts for the sake of goin 2 college, friends of mine that wer considerin repeatin jus tuk their course n dey ar regretin it now, none of them did the course they wanted n as a result hated it, sum even hatin college n as a result sum ar droppin out nd reapplyin to do different courses. it's a hard decision to mak but really it is only one year of ur life verses regretin it for ur whole life!! hope iv helped!

My eyes! :eek:.

Sangre

Starting blackhall in september. While firms take the vast majority of law grads they will always consider other disciplines especially commerce, arts and engineering. Everyone has to sit the Kings Inn or FE1 exams anyway so that is where they will see you excel at law.

Obviously if you know you want to be a lawyer I'd recommend a law degree but it wont hold you back much if you've strong grades and good outside pursuits. Disadvantages of it though are you're very unlikely to get an offer in final year or before you've done most of your FE1s. Also a law graduate has 3/4 years of law behind them so an advantage when it comes to the entrance exams and just talking to employers about what they enjoyed.

Places for jobs are highly competitive at the moment so you will need excellent grades every year to even be considered.

dajaffa

AnMoralltach wrote: »

if you wish to repeat your leaving cert in guantanamo bay-esque conditions that is of course!

It is pretty strict but at the end of the day they take an interest in making you work wheras the grind schools don't really, they just want their money really, which is grand if you can make yourself work but plenty of people can't...

Brooke01

dets wrote: »

hey, if it's wat u really want and u think u wil work for it than def repeat, i did this year and i hav absolutely no regrets wat so ever. i decided to repeat because i knew myself dat i didnt do my best n had changed my mind a few months b4 my exams dat i wanted to do pharmacy. of course it's not easy repeatin n watchin your friends all go to college but if dey really ar ur friends dey'l stil b der wen it's al ovr. i decided to change schools too n dat scared d **** out of me but was infact the thing dat made me really enjoy my year. although u do really need to think about ur decision, u might hav d best intentions in d world of studying really hard but wen it cums down to it tings dnt always go to plan, i speak from experience. even after repeatin im left regretin not workin as hard as i shud hav, stil im happy enuf dat i did do alot better n even if i hav to end up doin my course in d uk im happy wit dat cause at least im doin sumtin i want to do. dont do arts for the sake of goin 2 college, friends of mine that wer considerin repeatin jus tuk their course n dey ar regretin it now, none of them did the course they wanted n as a result hated it, sum even hatin college n as a result sum ar droppin out nd reapplyin to do different courses. it's a hard decision to mak but really it is only one year of ur life verses regretin it for ur whole life!! hope iv helped!

thanks really helped

Brooke01

Thnx guys for the help !! it was really helpful

Brooke01

Brooke01 wrote: »

Thnx guys for the help !! it was really helpful

Anyone else …. Some more advice on this topic. What would you do ??

Économiste Monétaire

Really want law? Then repeat.

Realise that an undergraduate degree in law isn't a prerequisite to becoming a solicitor/barrister? Then don't repeat.