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Spain Vs. Russia

  • 10-06-2008 12:01am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭


    According to the Independent Spain will line up in a 4-4-2 formation with villa and torres up front and fabregas on the bench.

    personally I think the following line-up Would be better

    ......................... Casillas........................

    Ramos..........Puyol.....Marchena......capdevilla

    .............................Senna..........................

    Iniesta...............Xavi.........Fabregas.........Silva

    ...............................Torres..........................

    Key player: Torres

    Utilised Subs: Villa, De la Red, Guiza/Sergio Garcia.


    Most likely formation
    ......................... Casillas........................

    Ramos..........Puyol.....Marchena......capdevilla

    Iniesta............Xavi.....Senna..............Silva..

    ......................Villa.......Torres.....................

    Key player:Xavi


    Poor Xabi Alonso might as well pack his bags and say good bye to the circus.


    Which formation would you prefer?

    Who will win?

    Can fabregas and torres play well together for once?

    Predict The Score + others 90 votes

    0-0
    0%
    Scored Draw
    2%
    Vokes_blank_ 2 votes
    Spain to win by a goal
    8%
    VokesBoggles_blank_ShiverinEskimoaidan24326leninbenjamintonc76CHD 8 votes
    Spain to win by 2 + goals
    14%
    TwoShedsJacksonVokesmike65pickarooneygucci_blank_jtsuitedKELTICKNIGHTTgustavoXavi6Im_No_Supermanvincenzo1975delija_sever029 13 votes
    Russia to win by a goak
    28%
    dardozVokesBounty HunterBacchuskmart6String_blank_mayordenis445279.ieMr.Nice Guy~Rebel~bazzmangit_irelandcolly10redzerdrogs_carnageFrisbeeMementoMoriMikeyt086internelligent 26 votes
    Russia to win by 2 + goals
    3%
    Vokes_blank_smurph 3 votes
    Fabregas Will Start
    2%
    Vokes_blank_ 2 votes
    Fabregas Will not Start
    6%
    VokesBounty Hunter_blank_colly10s_carnagevincenzo1975 6 votes
    Villa will Start
    14%
    dardozVokesString_blank_ShiverinEskimo~Rebel~bazzmanXavi6redzerdrogFrisbeeMementoMoriMikeyt086ShoulderChip 13 votes
    Villa will not start
    18%
    dardozVokesBounty HunterString_blank_Juan Pablo~Rebel~bazzmanXavi6redzerdrogFrisbeeMementoMoriMikeyt086kryogencurry-muffShoulderChipvincenzo1975 17 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Spain to win by a goal
    Word is Fabregas wont start. it's been on the Telly and the interweb all day.

    edit: oh, nm i see you said that. forgive me, i should have the read the contents of your post instead of just looking at the lineups...

    personally i'd go with the latter formation. Cesc was really burned out by the end of the year. I think save him against the latter stages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Villa will not start
    Ah i think my poll is silly, I wish now I never made it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Villa will not start
    im going with the predicted formation of

    Casillas

    Ramos----Puyol
    Marchena----Capdevilla

    Senna

    ----Iniesta
    Silva

    Xavi

    Torres
    Villa

    Cant see much wrong with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Villa will not start
    kryogen wrote: »
    im going with the predicted formation of

    Casillas

    Ramos----Puyol
    Marchena----Capdevilla

    Senna

    ----Iniesta
    Silva

    Xavi

    Torres
    Villa

    Cant see much wrong with it.

    Swap silva and Xavi and you have it right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Villa will not start
    why? silva is better from a wide position, xavi will probably be next to iniesta. they interchange alot and do it very well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Villa will not start
    im not saying your way is worse, but aragones said he would play silva in the hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Spain to win by a goal
    It's a heck of a team that can leave Fabregas on the bench, that's all I can say. I don't know much about Senna, is he good?

    Russia are a good side though, technically good on the ball and an excellent manager to boot. They'll be tough opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Villa will not start
    aidan24326 wrote: »
    It's a heck of a team that can leave Fabregas on the bench, that's all I can say. I don't know much about Senna, is he good?

    He's a much more defensive player than Fab.
    Will play the Makelele kinda role...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Any suggestions for a good bet for this game ? Spain to win is crap odds 4/6.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Villa will not start
    if he is gonna play with Xavi,Iniesta, Silva, 2 strikers and a central defence of Puyol and Marchena he needs Senna to give protection, hes a good defensive midfielder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Russia to win by a goak
    I'm not so sure about Russia to be honest. They never really do much at tournaments and they aren't great travellers. I still can't get it out of my mind how they were absolutely hammered three nil by England at Wembley.
    I know you could say the same about Spain in terms of performances at tournaments, but i just think they have the players and quality to beat the Russians and i reckon two nil to Spain will be the outcome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Villa will not start
    kryogen wrote: »
    if he is gonna play with Xavi,Iniesta, Silva, 2 strikers and a central defence of Puyol and Marchena he needs Senna to give protection, hes a good defensive midfielder.

    http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/J78GM9T6NJ47M14S

    Has an eye for goal aswell..... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Villa will not start
    not sure why you used the rolleyes there tbh

    it was a pretty freakin great goal dont you think?

    alas it is a rare occurance!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Spain to win by a goal
    monkey9 wrote: »
    I'm not so sure about Russia to be honest. They never really do much at tournaments and they aren't great travellers. I still can't get it out of my mind how they were absolutely hammered three nil by England at Wembley.
    I know you could say the same about Spain in terms of performances at tournaments, but i just think they have the players and quality to beat the Russians and i reckon two nil to Spain will be the outcome

    Spain have more quality in the attacking third which might swing it. But I wouldn't underestimate the Russians, they have skilful players who are comfortable on the ball and with a top-class manager at the helm they won't be lacking when it comes to organisation and tactical know-how. If Spain aren't at their best the Russians are well capable of getting a result. I'd fancy these two to qualify from the group anyway, ahead of Sweden and Greece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    Spain better not play shit tonight. I'm staying up til the wee small hours just to watch the little fella work his magic in midfield. I'll have my jersey on and everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Villa will not start
    Have to say Id fancy Spain and Sweden from this group.
    Spain should take it comfortably today aswell


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Russia to win by a goak
    I wouldn't discount alonso yet, he'll play a part - there is talk of him starting ahead of senns - personally I think senna will play though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Spain to win by a goal
    i think Spain will have a shaky start, too much uncertainty as to how they will play, much more than any other team it seems, can never be a good sign. i'd put my money on score draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Russia to win by a goak
    I reckon Spain will win comfortably. I'm thinking 3-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I hope Spain win with Torres, Arbeloa and Alonso somehow getting among the goals ;).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 589 ✭✭✭vincenzo1975


    Villa will not start
    I think Torres will start on the bench at the expense of a 5 man midfield with fabregas starting.

    Villa up front on his own.

    Spain to win 2-1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Spain to win by 2 + goals
    Good chance for Spain to finally do something on Euro's except to blew up every time when people excepting a lot of them and their super team,again food names again a lot of young star players.We will see if they finally have solution for that problem in their heads coz they know to play football as individuals and thats definitly obvious.So far Holland,Portugal and Germany showed themselves as really good teams and candidates to win tournament,only left to see Spain now.Its gonna be tough game for both teams but my prediction Spain to win with a 1 goal difference


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    It's probably not the worst idea to leave Fabregas on the bench, although I would have thought that Iniesta would make a better impact sub. Mind you, Cesc made an excellent contribution off the bench at WC06.

    Nice problem to have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Spain to win by 2 + goals
    Gone for a one goal win by Spain , while Aragones has plenty of latitude to make the wrong selection, Hiddink might make the right one. Would'nt rule them out of this discussion.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Last time I saw Russia playing they looked impressive but I know how lethal Torres is. I'd say a Russian win with plenty of goals. *crosses fingers*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,594 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Villa will not start
    Tusky wrote: »
    Any suggestions for a good bet for this game ? Spain to win is crap odds 4/6.

    i put 3euros on Senna to score in the 90 at 11-1. Obviously a long shot, but he really was taking all his chances in training so said id go for it, or else prob end up regretting it like i did with Podolski.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Villa will not start
    Spain to win, by a couple of goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Russia to win by a goak
    Spain to win 2-0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭bazzman


    Villa will not start
    according to www.livescore.com the 4 teams ave been announced already just wondering if the teams would actually be named so early but the spanish team according to it is:
    Casillas; Ramos, Puyol, Marchena, Capdevila; Iniesta, Senna, Xavi , Silva; Torres, Villa


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Spain to win by 2 + goals
    I am watching teams on that page everytime and they arent final,they just give suposed starting rosters and than change it after teams officially give them before the games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Villa will not start
    Well they wont change that line-up thats for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    As a little taster for tonight here's Xavi's winner for Spain against the USA last week. Quality -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭ShoulderChip


    Villa will not start
    ha typical Xavi scoring goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,594 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Villa will not start
    lads the weather here has gone fuking nuts, black sky, lashing rain, fork lightning, booming thunder, full blown storm! Mite start to favour the russians...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    Teams are in. Villa and Torres both start -

    Spain: Casillas; Ramos, Puyol, Marchena, Capdevila; Senna; Iniesta, Xavi, Silva; Villa, Torres.

    Russia:
    Akinfeyev; Anyukov, Kolodin, Shirokov, Zhirkov; Semak, Zyryanov, Semshov, Bilyaletdinov, Sychev; Pavlyuchenko.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    Anyone else watching? Russians must be averaging a foul a minute. Very physical approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    Torres to Villa. 1-0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Spain to win by 2 + goals
    Torres reigning for Spain! :pac:

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Villa will not start
    Yeah the Russians were fairly physical there.

    And people wonder if Torres and Villa can play together.

    Come on Benitez sign Villa please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    Russia hit the post.

    Good game so far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Villa will not start
    Torres and Villa is a really good partnership.

    Shocked by the lack of Fabregas.

    Russians arnt done, this will be a great game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Villa will not start
    Russians hit the post after about 18 Spanish defenders miss the ball.

    Def don't look too solid at the back

    More nice link up play from Villa to create a chance for Torres

    There's more goals in this methinks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Tom65


    I'm aware they've just gone a goal down, but Russia keep playing like this they might not win this match, but they should come out of their group. I thought they were good, but the pundits seemed convinced they were rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Villa will not start
    Another chance for Torres - destroying his marker at the moment - decent save by Russian keeper.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    God i hope Nando is telling Villa and Silva to sign for Liverpool. The thought of the 3 of them linking up for us next season makes me hard.

    The ref is having an awful game here, giving fouls for every little bit of contact and surely 2 or 3 russians should have cards by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Villa will not start
    Spain just knock the ball about so well. Every player is comfortable on te ball and always has someone in space to pass to. The movement is great to watc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Villa will not start
    Melion wrote: »
    God i hope Nando is telling Villa and Silva to sign for Liverpool. The thought of the 3 of them linking up for us next season makes me hard.

    Tap them up you mean :pac::pac:

    Good goal by Spain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Damn it, missed the goal.

    /awaits half time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,174 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Russia to win by a goak
    Jesus Torres just skinned that guy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭eddiehead


    Good game so far, Spain seem shakey enough at the back but they are brilliant going forward. The movement and passing up to now has been great to watch, Villa and Torres putting on a great show


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