caught drink driving what to do now?

memeandmark

i know someone who was driving home and was caught at a check point and was bagged, he was twice the limit. fair enough its his own fault and a huge and stupid risk to take.. i am just wondering how long will he be off the road roughly.his job involves driving and his family are dependant on him to drive...thanks

Agent Smith

usually 12 months

memeandmark wrote: »

his job involves driving and his family are dependant on him to drive...thanks

sucks to be them

Black Swan

Use designated driver next time? Don't look at me!

newname

generally 2 year ban and can apply to get licence back after 12 months

Ravage1616

Why drink and drive if his job depends on him being able to drive? Sucks to be him!

elmolesto

Walk

BJC

memeandmark wrote: »

i know someone who was driving home and was caught at a check point and was bagged, he was twice the limit. fair enough its his own fault and a huge and stupid risk to take.. i am just wondering how long will he be off the road roughly.his job involves driving and his family are dependant on him to drive...thanks

When before the judge he can request to defer the ban to get his affairs in order, a friend of mine did that with exams. My Dad' a taxi driver and I find it irreprehensible that your friend would risk his families livliehood so flippantly.

Voodu Child

The schools are off soon for summer, so he should get his CV in to McDonalds asap.
Your friend is an idiot for putting his job and family in jeopardy, not to mention the lives of other road users.

Rb

voodoo_child wrote: »

The schools are off soon for summer, so he should get his CV in to McDonalds asap.
Your friend is an idiot for putting his job and family in jeopardy, not to mention the lives of other road users.

Exactly.

I know a guy who was banned for three years as a result of being caught over the limit the morning after a night out. In this day and age, I think anyone who drink drives should be taken off the road permanently.

zuutroy

BJC wrote: »

I find it irreprehensible that your friend would risk his families livliehood so flippantly.

so you think its a good idea?

Creamy Goodness

Rb wrote: »

I think anyone who drink drives should be taken off the road permanently.

i agee with this statement.

BJC

zuutroy wrote: »

so you think its a good idea?

...................God damn it.

Cycle.

Run_to_da_hills

Myth wrote: »

Cycle.

Maybe get one of these and start up another business
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/rickshawSWNS_468x346.jpg

The Artist

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Maybe get one of these and start up another business

yeah a pub for a start!

Dudess

memeandmark wrote: »

i know someone who was driving home and was caught at a check point and was bagged, he was twice the limit

You "know someone" you say...?

Danbo!

"Your Friend" eh?

voodoo_child wrote: »

Your friend is an idiot for putting his job and family in jeopardy, not to mention the lives of other road users.

That about sums it up.

AckwelFoley

Agent Smith wrote: »

usually 12 months



sucks to be them

On first offence you can get ur licence back after 6 months on appeal to not be a gobshoite anymore.

I was bagged asleep in the car in a car park in Drumcondra 2 years ago..

i was after having at least 12 drinks hours before...

passed the test in storestreet station.

go figure

The Artist

quote=snyper;56170106
I was bagged asleep in the car in a car park in Drumcondra 2 years ago..
i was after having at least 12 drinks hours before...

bagged while asleep in the car?
were you driving at all?
this sort thing happened to me a few years ago.But no bag was involved.Garda tap on my window "are ye ok?"
"yes im fine as i had a few drinks and live along away from home so i thought id sleep in the car instead of driving home"
garda then said
"thats ok ,where are your keys"
i said
"i left them at the pub and i get them when i wake up"
garda
"thats fine sorry to disurb you"
and off he went.
iI dont think they can bag you in the car for being asleep and no intention to drive the car?

AckwelFoley

Alan Ford wrote: »

bagged while asleep in the car?
were you driving at all?
this sort thing happened to me a few years ago.But no bag was involved.Garda tap on my window "are ye ok?"
"yes im fine as i had a few drinks and live along away from home so i thought id sleep in the car instead of driving home"
garda then said
"thats ok ,where are your keys"
i said
"i left them at the pub and i get them when i wake up"
garda
"thats fine sorry to disurb you"
and off he went.
iI dont think they can bag you in the car for being asleep and no intention to drive the car?

I neglected to mention it was winter and i had the engine on to warm up the car... i was fast asleep

doooh...

Run_to_da_hills

snyper wrote: »

I neglected to mention it was winter and i had the engine on to warm up the car... i was fast asleep

doooh...

You were lucky you did not wake up dead, sleeping in a car with the engine ticking over deserves everything the cop threw at you.

AckwelFoley

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You were lucky you did not wake up dead, sleeping in a car with the engine ticking over deserves everything the cop threw at you.

please explain....

how one can wake up dead?

Predhead

I'm glad your 'friend' got caught. The idiot. Another drink driver off the roads is a good things, naturally.

Run_to_da_hills

snyper wrote: »

please explain....

how one can wake up dead?

GhostInTheRuins

An idiot down the road from me got caught drink driving, he told the judge he needed to drive for work, so the judge gave him 4 or 5 months to sort it out, then after that he was banned for a year. 4 or 5 months later he hires a guy to drive him around for the next twelve months. As soon as he's able to drive again he fires his driver and two weeks later he's caught drink driving again. ****ing idiot.

Run_to_da_hills

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

An idiot down the road from me got caught drink driving, he told the judge he needed to drive for work, so the judge gave him 4 or 5 months to sort it out, then after that he was banned for a year. 4 or 5 months later he hires a guy to drive him around for the next twelve months. As soon as he's able to drive again he fires his driver and two weeks later he's caught drink driving again. ****ing idiot.

Its just like the cat jumping up onto the kitchen table licking the butter, You cant stop them as soon as you turn your back. I knew a biker that was bagged twice the second time was during his ban period. He came off and ended up in casualty, the cops were ready for him outside the hospital.

Clare_Guy

memeandmark wrote: »

i know someone who was driving home and was caught at a check point and was bagged, he was twice the limit. fair enough its his own fault and a huge and stupid risk to take.. i am just wondering how long will he be off the road roughly.his job involves driving and his family are dependant on him to drive...thanks

Get a good solicitor (one experienced in drink-driving offences) he/she should tell you that it is a "technical offence" and that the gardai have to follow strict procedures to earn a conviction.

Have your day(s) in court and see what happens. Gardai are not the most efficient and anything can happen.

I personally have had a potential drink-driving conviction thrown out through gardai errors. (I did not fight or question the evidence, the case was thrown out because the gardai did not do their stuff correctly)

Apparently only 1 in 8 road-traffic offences that go to court result in a conviction so the odds are in your favour.

I'm not justifying drink-driving or advocating it i'm simply giving you the facts of my own experiences. If you wanna pm me feel free...

The Artist

snyper wrote: »

please explain....

how one can wake up dead?

what i think he means by that is i ts silly to sleep in the car running,hence overheats or gos on fire,fumes (petrol) etc.
the garda probably thought you were trying to top yourself.

AckwelFoley

Clare_Guy wrote: »

Get a good solicitor (one experienced in drink-driving offences) he/she should tell you that it is a "technical offence" and that the gardai have to follow strict procedures to earn a conviction.

Have your day(s) in court and see what happens. Gardai are not the most efficient and anything can happen.

I personally have had a potential drink-driving conviction thrown out through gardai errors. (I did not fight or question the evidence, the case was thrown out because the gardai did not do their stuff correctly)

Apparently only 1 in 8 road-traffic offences that go to court result in a conviction so the odds are in your favour.

I'm not justifying drink-driving or advocating it i'm simply giving you the facts of my own experiences. If you wanna pm me feel free...

care to elaborate?

AckwelFoley

Alan Ford wrote: »

what i think he means by that is i ts silly to sleep in the car running,hence overheats or gos on fire,fumes (petrol) etc.
the garda probably thought you were trying to top yourself.

I spend on average 8 hours in my car per day.

In 14 years driving ive never had a car over heat let alone have smoke come out of it.

So in otherwords.. na, its rather an unlikely event to be worrying about.

The Artist

snyper wrote: »

I spend on average 8 hours in my car per day.

In 14 years driving ive never had a car over heat let alone have smoke come out of it.

So in otherwords.. na, its rather an unlikely event to be worrying about.

i just thought id point it out for your safety.
your driving alot?
taxi driver id presume?

GhostInTheRuins

Alan Ford wrote: »

what i think he means by that is i ts silly to sleep in the car running,hence overheats or gos on fire,fumes (petrol) etc.
the garda probably thought you were trying to top yourself.

Wouldn't it be more likely to overheat, burst into flames etc while it's driving rather than while it's stationary?

AckwelFoley

Alan Ford wrote: »

i just thought id point it out for your safety.
your driving alot?
taxi driver id presume?

no, i am a business development manager (sales boy) with a renewable energies company.

Geothermal heatpumps ftw.

Run_to_da_hills

snyper wrote: »

I spend on average 8 hours in my car per day.

In 14 years driving ive never had a car over heat let alone have smoke come out of it.

So in otherwords.. na, its rather an unlikely event to be worrying about.

There is a difference between awake in your car with the motor running because if you feel a bit stuffy or drowzy you roll down the window, you sleep in your car you have no control over anything, it is worse if there is a faulty exhaust as the gasses can work their way into the cab rather than blow away in the wind when your moving. In fact a law should be implemented with serious penalty points for idiots that sleep in their cars with the motors still running, particularly with petrol cars.

The Artist

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Wouldn't it be more likely to overheat, burst into flames etc while it's driving rather than while it's stationary?

works both ways.

MooseJam

drink drivers are scumbags, he deserves all he gets

GhostInTheRuins

moosejam wrote: »

drink Drivers Are Scumbags, He Deserves All He Gets

+ 1,000,000

AckwelFoley

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is a difference between awake in your car with the motor running because if you feel a bit stuffy or drowzy you roll down the window, you sleep in your car you have no control over anything, it is worse if there is a faulty exhaust as the gasses can work their way into the cab rather than blow away in the wind when your moving. In fact a law should be implemented with serious penalty points for idiots that sleep in their cars with the motors still running, particularly with petrol cars.

i'l ignore the idiot comment for now, however in a 6 month old car i fail to see your logic.

mikemac

What are posters opinions of people who drive and are exhausted?
I'd imagine a lot of accidents are caused by people falling asleep at the wheel and I know I've come close to this from working nights. Starting getting taxi's instead.

Kinda reckless and similar to drink driving imo

Btw, anyone I know who has ever been in court for drink driving gets a two year ban but can apply to get it back after 12 month. Seems to be the standard punishment these days for a first offence

FruitLover

snyper wrote: »

please explain....

how one can wake up dead?

Yeah, surely you'd die of the shock if you did?

Alan Ford wrote: »

I dont think they can bag you in the car for being asleep and no intention to drive the car?

AFAIK, they can if you have the keys upon your person (even if you don't have the engine running).

Run_to_da_hills

snyper wrote: »

i'l ignore the idiot comment for now, however in a 6 month old car i fail to see your logic.

Any car is dangerous, You buy a 6 month old car unknowingly that the previous owner drove over a rock or a roundabout and punctured the exhaust system.

Mena

micmclo wrote: »

What are posters opinions of people who drive and are exhausted?

I've seen a couple of "tests" comparing drunk/exhausted drivers and generally the exhausted drivers perform worse than the drunks. Little you can do about the tired people but at least we can feck the drunks off the road.

kelle

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

An idiot down the road from me got caught drink driving, he told the judge he needed to drive for work, so the judge gave him 4 or 5 months to sort it out, then after that he was banned for a year. 4 or 5 months later he hires a guy to drive him around for the next twelve months. As soon as he's able to drive again he fires his driver and two weeks later he's caught drink driving again. ****ing idiot.

memeandmark wrote: »

i know someone who was driving home and was caught at a check point and was bagged, he was twice the limit. fair enough its his own fault and a huge and stupid risk to take.. i am just wondering how long will he be off the road roughly.his job involves driving and his family are dependant on him to drive...thanks

These guys need to find themselves hobbies which don't involve drink. They just can't seem to stop at one even though they know they're driving.

johnnyskeleton

For twice the limit, it's a 3 year minimum for the first offence, and 6 years for a second or subsequent offence. That's the minimum on conviction, it can be more depending on the judge. There can also be a fine and/or a prison sentence.

An application can be made to have the licence restored, but 2/3 of the disqualification must be served. So off the road for a 2 years, and a massive insurance premium thereafter.

So if you think about the extra cost of insurance alone (possibly double) the cost of hiring a solicitor makes a lot of sense.

snyper wrote: »

no, i am a business development manager (sales boy) with a renewable energies company.

And you drive 14 hours a day? Ironic.

johnnyskeleton

micmclo wrote: »

Btw, anyone I know who has ever been in court for drink driving gets a two year ban but can apply to get it back after 12 month. Seems to be the standard punishment these days for a first offence

Law was changed in the Road Traffic Act, 2006, and in any event it depends on how much over the limit you are. Just over the limit for a first offence is 1 year. You can only apply to have your licence restored if the disqualification was for over 2 years (i.e. 2 years and a day +) and even then 2/3 of the disqualification must be served (different if the offence occured before the RTA 2006 came into effect).

FruitLover wrote: »

AFAIK, they can if you have the keys upon your person (even if you don't have the engine running).

The offence is being drunk while in charge of the vehicle with the intent to drive or attempt to drive.

gixerfixer

Walk.If our goverment where really serious about stopping drink driving there is a solution.....If you are caught and convicted of being over the limit in a court of law you lose your licence to drive for life.Watch the amount of road deaths drop by 70-80% and idiots who say "im well able to drink 5 pints and drive home" disappear.

davyjose

Dudess wrote: »

You "know someone" you say...?

Maybe it was mark?

Dord

Your "friend" should accept the consequences, hopefully they'll learn their lesson.

thebman

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

And you drive 14 hours a day? Ironic.

lol and sleeps in the car with the engine running :rolleyes:

Drunk drivers deserve everything they get!

Notorious

Agent Smith wrote: »

usually 12 months

Happened to one of my good friend, its about 2-3 years minimum. My friend had the police testify for him in court, and he ended up getting a lenient sentence (or so the Gardaí told him), and he got 3 years and the minimum fine (€200 methinks), but was told he could appeal it after two years and it would be lifted. He was well above twice over the limit too. He had something like 11 bottles of Miller and then 3/4 a shoulder of vodka. I was surprised he could still stand let alone get into a car...

Rb wrote:

...I think anyone who drink drives should be taken off the road permanently.

+1

zAbbo

What was his exact reading?

35 microgrammes is the limit (per 100 millilitres of breath), so if he had a reading of over double, it would put him in the minimum 3 years bracket, which would also carry a fine.

Check the details here - http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/motoring-1/driving-offences/drink-driving-offences-in-ireland