calculators + writing

declan_lgs

Holy mother of mawlya. Got a sweet ass sharp writeview el-w531 calculator today (allowed, right?). Well, it can do things such as tell me cos of 2 pi over 3 is minus a half, just like that.

Would it be very unwise to write it down like that in an exam, even if it's a Q such as complex numbers? If you get the correct answer, do they break marks off for work not shown?

This calculator even looks like it can do crap like standard deviation. Do any of you use it for that? How? It can't pop up what the formula for standard deviation is, right, and that's what makes it legal in the LC?

Fuascailt

To be legal for the exam, it can't integrate, differentiate or solve equations. There's a link on the front page of examinations.ie that tells you about calvulators. i had to change mine a couple of weeks ago, it was too good

ANd if your in radian mode, make sure you switch back to degrees when necessary. otherwise you'll get weird ass answers.

Ri na hEireann

This Calculator is not legal.......sorry

LizT

Hey, I have that calculator too and I heard that you're allowed to use it. Apparently it even solves quadratics. However the examiner will notice if you put down an answer without working it out fully...

But yea you are allowed to use that calculator. The only ones you're not allowed are ones the you can programme formulas and notes into.

Michael Collins

Nothing wrong with using a calculator for computations like cos(2pi/3 -1) or whatever.

I doubt the standard deviation function will be of any use since you're rarely given a set of numbers and asked to find the SD of them, usually there's symbols involved and the calculator would be of no use then...

kirving

I have a Sharp FX-83ES, the "natural display" one. If you stick in a function it gave all the points on a graph and also does Standard deviation. Is that allowed or not?

MathsManiac

Sharp ELW531 is allowed (and no, it doesn't solve equations).

Casio fx-83ES is allowed

LizT

Sharp ELW531

at the risk of sounding extremely stupid that's the black one right?

MathsManiac

lizt wrote: »

Sharp ELW531

at the risk of sounding extremely stupid that's the black one right?

It's the one that says "ELW531" just under the word "Sharp"


(And yes, it's black, but calling it "the black one" doesn't narrow the field much!)

Overheal

lizt wrote: »

Sharp ELW531

at the risk of sounding extremely stupid that's the black one right?

:eek: racist!

moggins7

declan_lgs wrote: »

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It can't pop up what the formula for standard deviation is, right, and that's what makes it legal in the LC?

am never heard of logs tables??? theres more than just triangles in those... statistics pg. 34...

sorry but if you dont know that by now...:(:(:(

declan_lgs

Sweeet.

moggins7 wrote: »

sorry but if you dont know that by now...:(:(:(

Should I drop to pass?

Em no thanks.

Milktrolley

MathsManiac wrote: »

Sharp ELW531 is allowed (and no, it doesn't solve equations).

How'd you find that oot? Not doubting that's its the truth or whatnot, just curious is all

Kathy_x_x

Ah crumb!!! I used the Sharp EL-W531:|

better bring a diff one on Monday then!!!

Twee.

Even if my calculator was super fancy I wouldn't know how to bloody use it! I just got the hang of the FX83ES Casio!!

MathsManiac

Milktrolley wrote: »

How'd you find that oot? Not doubting that's its the truth or whatnot, just curious is all

Because you can get a complete list of all of its features from the manual (or from the manufacturer's website,) and check that it does not have any of the features prohibited by the relevant circular on the SEC website.

MathsManiac

Kathy_x_x wrote: »

Ah crumb!!! I used the Sharp EL-W531:|

better bring a diff one on Monday then!!!

Huh? Why do you need to get a different one, given that this one is ok?

LizT

Well if that Sharp one is banned, which I seriously doubt, then sharp are guilty of false advertising. When I bought it it had a huge sticker on the front saying "suitable for a-levels and leaving Certificate"

Peslo

Eh HELLLO peoples!! The examiner wont know if you've used a super-fancy calculater!!
As long as you write the model of a legal one in the space, then fair balls to ya I say!!

padkav

Some of them examiners are Maths teachers!!!

~Candy~

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I have a Sharp FX-83ES, the "natural display" one. If you stick in a function it gave all the points on a graph and also does Standard deviation. Is that allowed or not?

really how ?

Boink08

Does anyone know if the Casio fx-570ES is forbidden? And if it is, what is the penalty for using a forbidden calculator? Do you think they would apply a penalty even if you used a forbidden calculator in a subject like Geography?

philologos

Graphing calculators aren't allowed in the LC as far as I know.

philologos

The Sharp EL-W531 can do all the statistics questions and standard deviation with the button. It also does the mean with the press of a button. Was just looking at the instruction manual.

http://esupport.sharp.at/scripts/dwnview.php?dir=/om/30_cal/&file=ELW531-G-H-HA-W535_OM_GB.pdf&ID=10788&SK=9634e248a5fcdc58c8dad366a5af8518&DocType=OM&CT=1

Look at the 2nd page of the PDF in particular.

LizT

wooo!! this forum was quoted in the irish times!! I was very proud to see my comment in print!

Peslo

This actual thread????

philologos

Yes this thread.

robynk18

so is the sharp el-w531 allowed or not??? freaking out right now. please help!!

Isaac702

Also remember that if your calculators have any instructions on their covers either leave the cover outside the exam hall, remove the instructions or cover them firmly if the instructions cannot be removed.

I don't know if the supervisors actually check this however it would be ridiculous to get into trouble over it if they did.

xOxSinéadxOx

is the casio fx blah blah blah one allowed?

.:FuZion:.

robynk18 wrote: »

so is the sharp el-w531 allowed or not??? freaking out right now. please help!!

It better be allowed.. I wrote it on the front of my engineering exam today.. :pac:

Isaac702

Well there are more than one type calculator in the Casio fx series so without knowing which one you are talking about it could go either way.

I have a Casio fx-83ES and until I am told otherwise I am allowed to use it. I cant seem to find any reference to the functions prohibited in the exam.

robdrog

Someone ring the helpline there...

Tom1991

really stupid q but what do you set your calculator mode as havent a clue with the amount of option mine has the d n math highlighted im guessin thts correct

robdrog

Tom1991 wrote: »

really stupid q but what do you set your calculator mode as havent a clue with the amount of option mine has the d n math highlighted im guessin thts correct

Make sure its in degrees

Kournikova

The top of my calculator says Sharp EL-531W is that the same as EL-W531

MrDrifter

If you do have an uver fancy one like I got stuck with for paper one of my JC, grab the calculator off the lad in front of you, and check the model of that, write it down on your paper, and try not to be TOO obvious.

Prowetod

Besides calculators and pens, what else do we need for tomorrow? Could there be graphs that need to be drawn? Presumably we use graph paper for that right??

xOxSinéadxOx

Isaac702 wrote: »

Well there are more than one type calculator in the Casio fx series so without knowing which one you are talking about it could go either way.

I have a Casio fx-83ES and until I am told otherwise I am allowed to use it. I cant seem to find any reference to the functions prohibited in the exam.

yeah I have that one

robdrog

eoccork wrote: »

Besides calculators and pens, what else do we need for tomorrow? Could there be graphs that need to be drawn? Presumably we use graph paper for that right??

Graph paper is given to you and so is the tables book, make sure you have a ruler!

DáireM

Anyone got an answer for the sharp EL-W531 calculator? Or am I gonna have to bogey another model onto the paper tomorrow?

haloauto

I'll be sticking with my faithful Casio fx-85ES

robdrog

DáireM wrote: »

Anyone got an answer for the sharp EL-W531 calculator? Or am I gonna have to bogey another model onto the paper tomorrow?

Sharp advertised it as being allowed on their packaging so I presume so its allowed

DáireM

robdrog wrote: »

Sharp advertised it as being allowed on their packaging so I presume so its allowed

Cheers.

zodac

Ive got a Casio that can solve quadratics... It cant save calculations form beforehand so is it allowed?

Edit:
It's a Casio FX 991ES

CyberWaste

Im just using the Natural Display fx-83ES Casio calculator, works great for fractions and sutff like that.

Jam-Fly

Sharp 531VH

assume it's allowed but I'm not entirely sure. Anyone know? It's the white one

Mycroft H

zodac wrote: »

Ive got a Casio that can solve quadratics... It cant save calculations form beforehand so is it allowed?

Edit:
It's a Casio FX 991ES

Definitly not!!!

my aul fella has it and it can do calculus, integration and heaps of other stuff,
thats why i wont be using it because it your not ment to have a calculator that can do calculus as well as graphing!!

zodac

landyman wrote: »

Definitly not!!!

my aul fella has it and it can do calculus, integration and heaps of other stuff,
thats why i wont be using it because it your not ment to have a calculator that can do calculus as well as graphing!!

Okay thanks, I'm sure i've got a Casio fx-83ES lying around somewhere....

Jam-Fly

Jam-Fly wrote: »

Sharp 531VH

assume it's allowed but I'm not entirely sure. Anyone know? It's the white one

Anyone know if the above calculator is allowed? Really don't wanna get the shock of finding out it's not allowed tommorrow morning!

MathsManiac

Jam-Fly wrote: »

Sharp 531VH

assume it's allowed but I'm not entirely sure. Anyone know? It's the white one

It's allowed.

Now go to bed!