Finnan may be back.....

shane86

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0604/finnans.html


While its welcome, cant help but think its partly because he hasnt had a huge amount of game time for Liverpool since he quit.

estebancambias

He dropped us for his club career, and now he knows his time is up at Liverpool, so he's coming crawling back.....

Hooraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Welcome back Steve.:)

Unearthly

Good player to have back.

Now for Ireland

Andy O'Brien can stayed retired.

kerash

I find it very disconcerting that these lads cant just make their minds up one way or another. It seems they are not too pushed about coming back to play, so will they be fully committed on the field? A lack of commitment among some players had been a major negative to the team in recent campaign imo. I'd prefer to give a chance to lads with something to prove and who really want to play for the jersey, rather that a half-hearted few that cant make their minds up...

simonw

kerash wrote: »

I find it very disconcerting that these lads cant just make their minds up one way or another. It seems they are not too pushed about coming back to play, so will they be fully committed on the field? A lack of commitment among some players had been a major negative to the team in recent campaign imo. I'd prefer to give a chance to lads with something to prove and who really want to play for the jersey, rather that a half-hearted few that cant make their minds up...

I'd agree with you if we had enthusiastic players who were as good as them. we need the likes of finnan and ireland at the moment, we've no one to replace them with really

estebancambias

When the two Reid's get back Ireland wouldn;t get into our team.

kerash

Ireland would be a great addition if he wasnt so unstable...

simonw

estebancambias wrote: »

When the two Reid's get back Ireland wouldn;t get into our team.

Do you really think Stephen Reid is a better player than Ireland? Really?

In pure football terms leaving aside attitudes/dead relatives etc, i think stephen Ireland is a far better player.

Andy Reid and Ireland would be our best midfield i think. Reid for intelligent play and Ireland for energy and going forward

zAbbo

It would be very easy to be demoralised playing for a crappy team under Stan, Finnan won't be the last player to turn his back on his International career, even our best player ever did so....

estebancambias

simonw wrote: »

Do you really think Stephen Reid is a better player than Ireland? Really?

In pure football terms leaving aside attitudes/dead relatives etc, i think stephen Ireland is a far better player.

Andy Reid and Ireland would be our best midfield i think. Reid for intelligent play and Ireland for energy and going forward

I think if luck is with Ireland through his career he could develop into an amazing player. Like actually into a genuine very good respected player, but Reid at this moment suits the balance of the team. I think S. Reid is a really good midfielder, who just lacks a few things which prevents him from being a really top central player.

I'm not saying the very thought of Ireland playing is absurd, just if given the choice I would play Andy Reid and Steven Reid in the middle.

If however we could be 90% certain Ireland would perform the way he did against Man Utd at OT this year, I would pick him.

DSB

zAbbo wrote: »

It would be very easy to be demoralised playing for a crappy team under Stan, Finnan won't be the last player to turn his back on his International career, even our best player ever did so....

Paul McGrath?

Thanx 4 The Fish

Chippy ???

Pigman II

Giles?

Unearthly

No Roy Keane

Won the premiership 7 times, 1 champions league and 4 fa cups

Just to remind the 3 lads above who clearly forgot about him!

Thanx 4 The Fish

I disagree, I do not think he was Ireland's best player, certainly most decorated but not best. And he did not wint those trophies on their own.

estebancambias

I would sort of agree with that.

Unearthly

I Can't really comment on Brady, Giles and McGrath as they were well past their best/retired before I got into football and can't really judge by grainy youtube highlight clips

Thanx 4 The Fish

Well you will be pleased to know that there was football before the premiership

Unearthly

Ah yes cause I denied there ever was

or maybe I admitted my age

Thanx 4 The Fish

Grainy youtube footage ? Paul McGrath ? Well past his best, certainly was not fit but never lost it in his head and was always well able even towards the end at Sheffield. was one of villas best defenders in years, finished there in 96 wasn't it, so yeah, showing your age a bit I would say, would make you about 12-16 or older if not into footy until late into your teens to not have seen him at his best.

22, not into footy until you were a teenager then ! Fair enough.

Unearthly

I can remember McGrath having a great game against Italy in World Cup 1994 but I'm being led to believe he was better and more consistent before that, yes?

Unearthly

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

22, not into footy until you were a teenager then ! Fair enough.

but I just said I remember him in the world cup 1994 which would of made me 8 at that time

So I did see him in his prime, fair enough my bad. Keane was a better player

Point still stands about Brady and Giles

Thanx 4 The Fish

That you did not see them is hardly my fault. Was Keane a better player than best ? You probably did not see him in his prime except for in grainy pictures on youtube, does that mean he is not as good ? Just curious.

Have you heard of this lad called Pele BTW, Manoel Francisco dos Santos by any chance?

Sorry, a little facetious there but I am sure you know what I mean.

Unearthly

My point is I can not say. Football is one of the most opinionated subjects out there. People disagree about loads of things and players. Why should I go on 2nd hand views and highlights of stuff only showing the good things of players?

and yes I have heard of the history side of things. I'm just not willing to say I'm a know it all about them because I watched them feck all

As a matter of interest, how often did you see Liam Brady in full 90 minute matches?

Thanx 4 The Fish

I would say more than 15 live and many many more on the box.

lordgoat

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

That you did not see them is hardly my fault. Was Keane a better player than best ? You probably did not see him in his prime except for in grainy pictures on youtube, does that mean he is not as good ? Just curious.

Have you heard of this lad called Pele BTW, Manoel Francisco dos Santos by any chance?

Sorry, a little facetious there but I am sure you know what I mean.

**** sake Pele, everyone quotes him... Not a patch on Diego.

Are you comparing Robbie Keane and Best?

Unearthly

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

I would say more than 15 live and many many more on the box.

Fair enough you can have your own opinion on him. but I do find it bizarre when you have kids arguing over who is better Maradona or Pele when all they have seen is a goal or 2 from both

leninbenjamin

Denis Irwin. best Irish player ever. FACT!

lordgoat

Unearthly wrote: »

Fair enough you can have your own opinion on him. but I do find it bizarre when you have kids arguing over who is better Maradona or Pele when all they have seen is a goal or 2 from both

I've prob seen every goal on film scored by the two of them, old job i had. And Diego was amazing, so too was Alfredo Di Stefano. My two favourite players.

But yeah good news about finnan.

leninbenjamin

lordgoat wrote: »

I've prob seen every goal on film scored by the two of them

ah but did you see every goal they DIDN'T score?