Cork v Tipp

Alan Smith

Might head down to this next Sunday, haven't been to a game in a while and it would provide a decent break between studying for the Leaving.

Tickets on general sale now so I might head in to get a couple of terrace tickets.

I'm not the biggest Crok fan there is bu since it's on gerea sale I feel 've the right to go :pac:

mikemac

I've just checked this weeks fixtures in www.gaa.ie and this match isn't there.
Yes, I know the games are listed as Gaelige

Are you sure this game is on?

Alan Smith

micmclo wrote: »

I've just checked this weeks fixtures in www.gaa.ie and this match isn't there.
Yes, I know the games are listed as Gaelige

Are you sure this game is on?

It's on ticketmaster.ie anyway. June 8th Pairc UI Caoimh

mikemac

I don't doubt you Alan
Poor form from the GAA if their website is badly out of date

But I don't mind. Croke Park resident and I listened to the Celine Dion concert for free tonight

Pigletlover

The this week's fixtures on the GAA website is showing last week's matches, that site is brutal at times, but the match is definitely on (linky). Who do people fancy? I'm expecting great things from Tipp over the next couple of years, but I'm not too confident about this game, Tipp haven't a good record against Cork in Pairc Ui Caoimh.

premierstone

Pigletlover wrote: »

The this week's fixtures on the GAA website is showing last week's matches, that site is brutal at times, but the match is definitely on (linky). Who do people fancy? I'm expecting great things from Tipp over the next couple of years, but I'm not too confident about this game, Tipp haven't a good record against Cork in Pairc Ui Caoimh.

Totally agree i think we will be a major force in a few years but like you said i think this game might be just a bit too much too soon, having said that its goin to be a very close tight game and tipp showed in the league, as in 2001, that they have a knack of winning tight games.

What half forward line starts will go along way to deciding the game personally i think Ryan O'Dwyer is one of the worst hurlers to ever wear a tipp jersey and if he starts centre forward i will be puttin a few quid on the cork centre back, curran i assume, to be man of the match

With regards to tipps record in cork tipp havent won a senior game against cork in the pairc since 1923 having said that theres only been 8 such game one was abonded and two were draws, recors like this are there to be broken, and if Eoin Kelly, Lar Corbett and co are in full swing Tipp will take alot of stoping!

Pride Fighter

Cork will adopt a siege mentality with the players strike lingering in their minds. This is their last chance of an AI with this bunch of players and they will be loving it that no one is giving them a chance. Tipp may win but if they dont they will be ahead of Cork in the next couple of years in terms of players coming through.It should be a close enough game, Tipp by 2 maybe but nothing is certain.

Mushy

Pigletlover wrote: »

The this week's fixtures on the GAA website is showing last week's matches, that site is brutal at times, but the match is definitely on (linky). Who do people fancy? I'm expecting great things from Tipp over the next couple of years, but I'm not too confident about this game, Tipp haven't a good record against Cork in Pairc Ui Caoimh.

Yeah, would have to agree with this alright! Disappointed I cant make it down this weekend, but no doubbt I'll be keeping an eye on it. If Tipp manage to win this one, then they may be able to go on and do very well this year, so lets hope something good comes of the weekend.

dewdrop

thanks premierstone for statistics re matches in cork. you mention tipp lost 5 times since they last won. i wonder could you give the years tipp lost. i know 1942,1985 and 2005 were some of the years. up tipp.

aidan24326

This 1923 stuff will have no bearing. Tipp will win in Pairc Ui Chaoiomh sooner or later and I've a feeling Sunday might be the day. All the momentum is with Tipp at the moment. I think Cork might need to rebuild a bit before they win an All-Ireland again. Tipp impressed me in the league final against Galway, I thought Tipp were definitely the better team on the day even though it finished close (and I'm a Galway man). Tipp to win what could be a cracker.

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future_plans

Looks like it. Unlucky because there were still City End tickets on there at lunch time yesterday.

Heisenberg.

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premierstone

Having just seen the Cork starting fifteen im actually a little more upbeat about tipps chances now, if as has been mentioned here tipp can get off to a good start i can really see them cork forwards struggling for enough scores 3 debutants, Timmy McCarthy not exactly prolific, Cronin playing out of position, im beginning to think that the 6/5 available on tipp might be value if our half forward line can win even 40% off the cork half backline id be very confident.

Cheese Princess

Don't know if I should be putting this in holiday thread but......

Does anyone know if there's a pub in Skiathos, Greece that would show this game? I know there's one Irish bar there called Paddy O'Spartacus:D but can't find any contact info for them.

Haven't missed a Cork game in years and I thought it would have been on last weekend

Mushy

Cheese Princess wrote: »

Don't know if I should be putting this in holiday thread but......

Does anyone know if there's a pub in Skiathos, Greece that would show this game? I know there's one Irish bar there called Paddy O'Spartacus:D but can't find any contact info for them.

Haven't missed a Cork game in years and I thought it would have been on last weekend

If ya cant get any contact info, just wait till ya get there and ask them in person. Or do it if your over there now.

hawkwing

"What half forward line starts will go along way to deciding the game personally i think Ryan O'Dwyer is one of the worst hurlers to ever wear a tipp jersey and if he starts centre forward i will be puttin a few quid on the cork centre back, curran i assume, to be man of the match "

Totally agree, he could not hold his place on the u-21 a couple of years and hardly scores for cashel either. hopefully Callinan will be on

premierstone

hawkwing wrote: »

Totally agree, he could not hold his place on the u-21 a couple of years and hardly scores for cashel either. hopefully Callinan will be on

Problem there is im pretty certain that they dont want to start callinan, much prefer to bring him in with 15-20 mins to go when the game is a bit more open and loose, he has unbelievable speed and is deadly accurate but lacks physicality in fairness to him

Orizio

I fancy Tipp now after hearing the team. Should have gone conservative and put out T McCarthy, N McCarthy, B O'Connor and Paudie Sul, K Murphy, J Deane. And bring Ronan and Naughton ten minutes into the second half.
Anyone think Ger McCarthy is pulling out a Waterford and throwing out a weakened team to go through the backdoor so Cork can come good at the end of the year? Or is he on drugs?

aidan24326

Orizio wrote: »

I fancy Tipp now after hearing the team. Should have gone conservative and put out T McCarthy, N McCarthy, B O'Connor and Paudie Sul, K Murphy, J Deane. And bring Ronan and Naughton ten minutes into the second half.
Anyone think Ger McCarthy is pulling out a Waterford and throwing out a weakened team to go through the backdoor so Cork can come good at the end of the year? Or is he on drugs?

He's not putting out a weakened team. The defence and midfield is still strong as ever and he's shaken up the forward line, gone for a younger more pacey bunch of players. The next generation if you like. Naughton and Paudie Sullivan are very good young players and now it's time to see if they have what it takes to start at this level. If I was a Corkman I'd be happy with the team that's been picked.

bill_ashmount

Cork by 2 or 3 points

knightmare

bill_ashmount wrote: »

Cork by 2 or 3 points

Thinking the same myself

Pigletlover

The Scientist wrote: »

Its sold out already is it?
Ticketmaster cant find me tickets!

Keep checking Ticketmaster, I got 3 terrace tickets yesterday afternoon and I know someone else who got them last night. I just checked there and there's none available at the minute, but you might get lucky

premierstone

hawkwing wrote: »

Totally agree, he could not hold his place on the u-21 a couple of years and hardly scores for cashel either. hopefully Callinan will be on

Well Hawk im not sure what to make of this selection, they do the right thing by playing callinan centre forward but then negate this by playing Ryan O'Wart on the wing i just dont know whether to laugh or cry, hany money though put a few quid on th ecork wing back to be man of the match!!

Orizio

aidan24326 wrote: »

He's not putting out a weakened team. The defence and midfield is still strong as ever and he's shaken up the forward line, gone for a younger more pacey bunch of players. The next generation if you like. Naughton and Paudie Sullivan are very good young players and now it's time to see if they have what it takes to start at this level. If I was a Corkman I'd be happy with the team that's been picked.

I'm sorry, but with our two best forwards from last year on the bench (Fraggie and Ronan) along with two of our most experienced forwards.No way can you say uor forward linew up hasn't been considerably 'weakened', this is senior championship hurling and we have three starting debutants. How can it not have been weakened?

premierstone

Orizio wrote: »

I'm sorry, but with our two best forwards from last year on the bench (Fraggie and Ronan) along with two of our most experienced forwards.No way can you say uor forward linew up hasn't been considerably 'weakened', this is senior championship hurling and we have three starting debutants. How can it not have been weakened?

Yer safe enough orizio we have ryan o dwyer playing so its sixteen against fourteen!!

tippbhoy

premierstone wrote: »

Yer safe enough orizio we have ryan o dwyer playing so its sixteen against fourteen!!

Will you lay off Dwyer will you. I'm not a big fan myself but he caused Ken McGrath enough trouble in the league. He is a limited hurler but has the heart of a lion and I'll take honest effort over a primadonna anytime. We know what we get with him and there is 1 game plan with him and that is to stop his man hurling. If it's not working then he can be subbed. Lets have some faith in management and not be insulting one of our own on a public forum.

sheeez

so disappointed tday..
really let ourselves down..86years since defeat:mad:
only for naughton and the o'connors we would have been a sorry state

Sherifu

Looked like a good game from the news. Cork faded badly.

sheeez

yes it was a good game but cork really just let their heads down:(

john concannon

It all changed after Eoin Kelly's great goal.I would like to know why so many fans were put on the pitch.Was the crowd bigger then expected?

Qualifiers will be good this year.:D

sheeez

ya i was suprised they were even doing that tbh!
there was only an expected 25.000 i think and it was almost double!:eek:
i must admit it was an unreal goal!

john concannon

RTE show the fella with the mexican hat so much he has probably had more tv time then Cyril Farell.He was visible every time a puck-out was taken.

sheeez

maybe because he was right behind the goal!!:D
and he goes 2EVERY match young & old!
my sister is on the cork u14 team and he goes to those matches!

john concannon

sheeez wrote: »

my sister is on the cork u14 team and he goes to those matches!

I wonder why?

Orizio

sheeez wrote: »

ya i was suprised they were even doing that tbh!
there was only an expected 25.000 i think and it was almost double!:eek:
i must admit it was an unreal goal!

There isn't a hope in hell they weren't expecting a full house on COrk Tipp munster hurling day.

Where I was, in the Blackrock terrace, the place was completely full as were the entrance's. Hence the thousand or so people behind the goals.

Orizio

tippbhoy wrote: »

Will you lay off Dwyer will you. I'm not a big fan myself but he caused Ken McGrath enough trouble in the league. He is a limited hurler but has the heart of a lion and I'll take honest effort over a primadonna anytime. We know what we get with him and there is 1 game plan with him and that is to stop his man hurling. If it's not working then he can be subbed. Lets have some faith in management and not be insulting one of our own on a public forum.

Didn't even stop his man from playing, Gardiner had a strong first half.

We were well beaten by a superior team. People will pick holes tactically and in team selection all day but ultimately we don't have center forward and our full forward was sitting on the bench. Our only resemblance to a center forward was Timmy Mac, who was ludicrously taken off before Canty and Cronin. With Tmmy Mac off, the Tipp center back line had a field day.

Best of luck to Tipp. Anyone but Kilkenny...:D

Orizio

sheeez wrote: »

so disappointed tday..
really let ourselves down..86years since defeat:mad:
only for naughton and the o'connors we would have been a sorry state

Little harsh. Our defence played well enough, particurly O' Neill and Sean Og. Timmy played well up front besides Naughton.

badlyparkedmerc

I'm a little sceptical of the GAA claims it was just people not moving to the right areas.

I was down at the city end and every time the announcer asked people to move up to the free spaces at the back of the Blackrock end there was just general scoffing. We couldn't see any significant spaces free up there. The aisles were full as well so it looked like there was just too many people there.

The city end was probably also slightly overfilled, though it's hard to tell with terraces. (Maybe it's just the average fan is getting wider.) But it was hard to see where the people spilling out on to the pitch should have been.

eigrod

sheeez wrote: »

so disappointed tday..
only for naughton and the o'connors we would have been a sorry state

I wonder which club you are from with a comment like that ?

Sean Og and Donal Og had great games today. Sean Og was better today than any of the 3 you mentioned above.

Ben had a very poor 2nd half today.

bunny shooter

To all the Cork Boyz and girlz, move over Tipp are back :pac:

JHMEG

Well done Tipp today, tho hardly unexpected. Cork are sadly in decline... after many years of top drawer stuff I feel Cork are now heading for where Clare have been for years: the doldrums. Not quite the whipping boys of Munster yet tho, but it could end up that way if they're not careful.

Tipp, otoh, rejuvinated by new management have a Munster on the cards this year, if they can survive open warfare with Limerick. Everyone will remember the deliberate attempts to break Eoin Kelly's arm last year (which should have ended in a custodial sentence IMHO).

But, at the end of it all, unfortunately I think it'll be KK for the big one yet again.

Orizio

JHMEG wrote: »

Well done Tipp today, tho hardly unexpected. Cork are sadly in decline... after many years of top drawer stuff I feel Cork are now heading for where Clare have been for years: the doldrums. Not quite the whipping boys of Munster yet tho, but it could end up that way if they're not careful.

Tipp, otoh, rejuvinated by new management have a Munster on the cards this year, if they can survive open warfare with Limerick. Everyone will remember the deliberate attempts to break Eoin Kelly's arm last year (which should have ended in a custodial sentence IMHO).

But, at the end of it all, unfortunately I think it'll be KK for the big one yet again.

Thankfully, this is nonsense. Cork, unlike Clare, have always been consistently strong underage and we have too strong club and youth structure to ever end up in the 'doldrums'. The fact that your basing your opinion on one match, 70 minutes of hurling suggests even more that its nonsense.

We lack a center forward, not a whole team.

JHMEG

Orizio wrote: »

The fact that your basing your opinion on one match, 70 minutes of hurling suggests even more that its nonsense.

No, sadly I've been observing this over the last couple of years. The same names are on the Cork team that there were 5 years ago, and Justin McCarthy got stick for introducing very few new players. The Cork management have been equally as tardy.

I am not a Cork fan, but I have the utmost respect for Cork as a hurling power and I'm only telling it as I see it. The lads from Cork have entertained me and countless others over the last decade, but there is no doubt Cork is now heading into a period of decline.

grenache

On current form, its difficult to see anyone stopping Tipp in Munster this year. Clare will certainly be on a high after their impressive win over Waterford, however their win must be put into context - they faced a Waterford side shorn of 3 of its stars and clearly in disarray due to player rumblings and feelings of discontent with the management. Clare have the momentum going into Sunday week's semi-final with Limerick. And momentum is a nice thing to have. That said, i would be surprised if the Bannermen managed to turn Limerick over - i think the Treaty men should have a bit too much for them, they're a more balanced side.

The only team that can stop Tipp from winning Munster is Tipp, provided they don't believe their own hype and keep their heads down, logic would dictate they'll be Munster Champions come July 6th.

kmart6

All I can say about today's match is...Eoin Kelly goal=Cracker!!!

Pigletlover

Great win for Tipp, Cork got off to a good start, but seemed to run out of steam towards the end. Eoin Kelly's goal was a cracker.

Does anyone know what the crowd trouble was about? Was there over-selling of tickets or cash being taken at stiles? The GAA are claiming there wasn't, saying the attendence was less than 43,000. The crowd outside the grounds a few minutes before throw in was so bad that they were letting people in through gates, I'd love to know if these were included in the official attendence figures. All the tald this morning is about the Blackrock end, but I was at the City End and the stewards weren't letting people into the terraces saying they were full, kept sending them to different entrances only to be turned away. There was one entrance with no stewards and people were getting crushed trying to get in to see the match. It was a very bad set up, not enough stewards either.

Heisenberg.

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premierstone

tippbhoy wrote: »

Will you lay off Dwyer will you. I'm not a big fan myself but he caused Ken McGrath enough trouble in the league. He is a limited hurler but has the heart of a lion and I'll take honest effort over a primadonna anytime. We know what we get with him and there is 1 game plan with him and that is to stop his man hurling. If it's not working then he can be subbed. Lets have some faith in management and not be insulting one of our own on a public forum.

enough said the man has no business on a hurlin field, honest effort and heart are great in junior b not in a munster championship game, could u imagine what tommy walsh wud do to him??

popebenny16

grenache wrote: »

The only team that can stop Tipp from winning Munster is Tipp, provided they don't believe their own hype and keep their heads down, logic would dictate they'll be Munster Champions come July 6th.

I'd go along with this, but I think that there is a very level headed bunch in the team right now and they wont be carried away with themselves. I think they know that, deep down, they could very well end up like Waterford, and win Munster and not the AI. I'd say that they will pace themseves well. That said, it was a great victory and a great confidence boost.

rebs23

Pigletlover wrote: »

The GAA are claiming there wasn't, saying the attendence was less than 43,000. .

There was no way the attendance was 43,000. I was at the game at the Blackrock End and live around the corner and I am absolutely definite that the attendance was around 50,000 if not more. I have been at games there when the attendance was around 40,000 and there were significantly more at yesterdays game.
Not the first time this has happened at the Pairc and the place is only fit for demolition at this stage. I know they have plans to turn the stadium around and rebuild and the sooner this happens the better. Fortunately unlike previous years when this has happened the throw in was at 2.15pm so there was less time in the pubs and therefore the crowd were in better mood and co-operated well with the gardai.
BTW: Well done to Tipp, the hungrier more balanced/better team. Looks like we have a long rebuilding process in front of us.