Irelands Broadband Coverage

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Hank Scorpio

blame comreg and eircom, more so eircom
in england bt own most of the lines similar to eircom in ireland however they have no where near the bad coverage that we do. I mean its not alot to ask of eircom to update exchanges so everyone can get broadband, but instead they prefer making there money off the people who can get it, yes its quiet pathetic.

watty

No The Governments and people voting them in. They ultimately set policy.

smellslikeshoes

nuxxx wrote: »

blame comreg and eircom, more so eircom
in england bt own most of the lines similar to eircom in ireland however they have no where near the bad coverage that we do. I mean its not alot to ask of eircom to update exchanges so everyone can get broadband, but instead they prefer making there money off the people who can get it, yes its quiet pathetic.

Eircom are a private company they are just doing exactly what every other private company would do in the position they are in. The reason why the UK has better coverage is not because BT were any different than Eircom but because there is the political and regulatory will to push it. The failure here is successive vegetables in the minister for communication spot. At the moment we have a green who other than being able to rattle off buzzwords like "NGN's" knows nothing about the ministerial seat he is in and would much rather spend money on wood burning stoves than give us a 21st century communications infrastructure.

MunsterCycling

Dial up Dempsey and the Comreg/€ircon duopoly.


MC

Firetrap

What gets my goat as well is when they include mobile internet coverage in the stats to make things look better. :mad:

lmimmfn

this country is an absolute joke when it comes to broadband. Im holding out for 24Mb broadband in 2070.

We're relocating in a few months just to get broadband that works, hahaha what a f***in joke

Marlow

Firetrap wrote: »

What gets my goat as well is when they include mobile internet coverage in the stats to make things look better. :mad:

Because Joe average then thinks, what great job the government is doing and going to re-elect them. Also, they won't have anybody bread down their neck's that harsh.

/Martin

Duiske

lmimmfn wrote: »

We're relocating in a few months just to get broadband that works, hahaha what a f***in joke

I know 2 people who have done that very thing, and a couple more considering it. A f***in joke ? A f***in disgrace more like !

PogMoThoin

Yep, blame the Government for not having the cop-on to realise that giving away our network was a bad idea. The opposition don't get away scot free either, didn't hear them complaining at the time.

Sqaull20

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yep, blame the Government for not having the cop-on to realise that giving away our network was a bad idea. The opposition don't get away scot free either, didn't hear them complaining at the time.

Agree, much of the blame has to go to the Government, those Aussie cowboys have bled ous dry because of them...

With the ways things are going, we have a better chance getting 20mb + broadband from mobile broadband providers like Vodafone and O2, says it all...

Firetrap

Most politicians wouldn't know what broadband was if it beat them over the head. Or if they do know, I honestly don't believe they appreciate how important it is that people all over the country can access it. It's not just for kids being able to access their Bebo pages faster.

craichoe

nuxxx wrote: »

blame comreg and eircom, more so eircom
in england bt own most of the lines similar to eircom in ireland however they have no where near the bad coverage that we do. I mean its not alot to ask of eircom to update exchanges so everyone can get broadband, but instead they prefer making there money off the people who can get it, yes its quiet pathetic.

Its because installing a DSLAM in an area where only 15 - 30 people would be using it is not cost effective.

Its tough tits really .. distribute the population a bit more evenly across the country and you'd be sorted.

ongarite

You can't have your cake and eat it. Live in the really nice isolated country-side and expect to have fast broadband.

1huge1

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yep, blame the Government for not having the cop-on to realise that giving away our network was a bad idea. The opposition don't get away scot free either, didn't hear them complaining at the time.

Well I still think privatisation was a good idea, we couldnt still have a state owned telecom like, we'd have no competition and no matter how bad the situation may be that would be a lot worse.
What should of been done was to give comreg a lot more power and put a minister into the position of communications that actually knows a thing or two about it.
There constantly going on about how important it is to have a good infrastructure to attract business, well this is no different.

What I find disgraceful is that county limerick, one of the most populous counties in the country still has huge black areas in terms of broadband, its just because of our political power, we have feck all ministers in power with the exception of willie o dea!
I live in a town of 2500 people with a lot more within 5km (hospital co.limerick) yet im still stuck with eircom isdn or have the choice of vodafone 3G...

ongarite wrote: »

You can't have your cake and eat it. Live in the really nice isolated country-side and expect to have fast broadband.

if i may say so thats a typical Dublin attitude, were not asking for super fast broadband, were not getting any broadband at all!.
Look at northern ireland for gods sake they've had 100% broadband penetration for over 2 years now. Need I say more

smellslikeshoes

ongarite wrote: »

You can't have your cake and eat it. Live in the really nice isolated country-side and expect to have fast broadband.

That not an excuse when you look at the example of northern European countries like Norway and Sweden, or countries like Switzerland who can get broadband up the side of fecking mountains.

craichoe

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

That not an excuse when you look at the example of northern European countries like Norway and Sweden, or countries like Switzerland who can get broadband up the side of fecking mountains.

Nope, no ADSL outside Kristiansand in Norway.

All in all broadband penetration is quite good in Ireland considering how light the population density is.

ongarite

Thats a myth, Swedish government grants payed for DSL and fibre upgrades in urban areas.
They are funding another 500m to expand into rural areas.

smellslikeshoes

craichoe wrote: »

Nope, no ADSL outside Kristiansand in Norway.

All in all broadband penetration is quite good in Ireland considering how light the population density is.

Norway are still in the top half of the OECD statistics for broadband per household so they must be doing something right.

lmimmfn

Duiske wrote: »

I know 2 people who have done that very thing, and a couple more considering it. A f***in joke ? A f***in disgrace more like !

+1 for that, its great knowing that my tax money is well spent lol

watty

1huge1 wrote: »

if i may say so thats a typical Dublin attitude, were not asking for super fast broadband, were not getting any broadband at all!.
Look at northern ireland for gods sake they've had 100% broadband penetration for over 2 years now. Need I say more

London: typical BB speed about 4Mbps
N.I.: typical BB speed about 2MBps
ROI: half of dailup users want BB but can't get it. The other half think it is too expensive.

Jenniferhough

Hi all

I am a journalist looking into this whole area... Heard a lot of complaints about a company called broadband.ie.. is it more widespread than this?
What are the main problems you are all experiencing?
Hoping to do a piece on this soon so any info much appreciated!

You can reply to me here or at hough_jennifer@hotmail.com

Thanks

ga2re2t

1huge1 wrote: »

I live in a town of 2500 people with a lot more within 5km (hospital co.limerick) yet im still stuck with eircom isdn or have the choice of vodafone 3G...

Eircom and the gov have no excuse there. All towns and villages above 1000 should have had their exchange broadband enabled years ago.

1huge1 wrote: »

if i may say so thats a typical Dublin attitude, were not asking for super fast broadband, were not getting any broadband at all!.
Look at northern ireland for gods sake they've had 100% broadband penetration for over 2 years now. Need I say more

I disagree with you there and I agree with ongarite. Nobody living outside of a town or village should realistically expect ADSL coverage, particularly if they're more than 4 km from the nearest dense settlement. That goes for all types of infrastructure, not just ADSL.

I find it hard to belive that NI has 100% ADSL coverage. They might have 100% BB coverage, but are you sure that's all ADSL? Then again, the population density in NI is twice that of the Republic's (122 /km2 as opposed to 60 /km2) and much of the population is concentrated in urban areas, so it's further proof that high population density equals greater BB penetration.

Linoge

watty wrote: »

London: typical BB speed about 4Mbps
N.I.: typical BB speed about 2MBps
ROI: half of dailup users want BB but can't get it. The other half think it is too expensive.

Can you just clarify that the speeds that you quoted there are actual download speeds as opposed to quoted.

Jenniferhough wrote: »

Hi all

I am a journalist looking into this whole area... Heard a lot of complaints about a company called broadband.ie.. is it more widespread than this?
What are the main problems you are all experiencing?
Hoping to do a piece on this soon so any info much appreciated!

You can reply to me here or at hough_jennifer@hotmail.com

Thanks

wow, you are the laziest reporter I have ever heard of!

Pshan

What's the actual take up on broadband where it is available - does anyone know or care? The estate that I live (60 houses) in has bb available for the last three years and only 3 houses have bb over the telephone line while 4more have it by wireless network. Would these figures if they reflect Joe Ireland encourage any company to invest in providing bb in rural areas?

watty

Rural can only be done by wireless and the density makes it expensive.

West Cork/Sligo/Mayo/Donegal/Kerry/Wicklow the Geography makes it expensive (poor coverage).

The issue is proven long ago to be availability, not demand. 1/2 of Dialup users want BB and can't get it. Most of the over 100k 3G/HSDPA recent users really want fixed Broadband, not an erratic MiddleBand speed Mobile service.

weisses

I consider myself very lucky to have BB in the west of west Kerry

Sponge Bob

Linoge wrote: »

wow, you are the laziest reporter I have ever heard of!

She would have meant NATIONALbroadband.ie had she done any real research .

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=3&country=4

compared to

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=3&country=49

Dublin only has an average speed of 2.7mbits while Galway is 2.8mbits and Cork and Limerick are not even 2.6mbits

Blindpew

Iolar wrote: »

Why o why is it sooooooooooo crap?

You're in Ireland now Iolar, you will soon see that it's not only our broadband is crap. You will find that every service that you try to access is crap and you will also have pay on the double for the pleasure of using them. The people were happy enough to put up with all the crap untill recently, every one was too busy counting their money to be bothered complaining. We have relected the same incompetent politicians three times over the last 15 years and wallowed in the myth that we were one of the richest countries in the world. Now the bubble has burst and we are starting to see what the place is really like, crap broadband, crap policing, crap hospitals, old people being abused both in care and in their homes, crap schools, the list is endless. If you have any sense you will up and leave at the first oppertunity. All this crapiness is after ten years of having the best performing economy in Europe. God help us now when things are going bad.

watty

Linoge wrote: »

Can you just clarify that the speeds that you quoted there are actual download speeds as opposed to quoted.

Yes.

The actual packages sold in UK are 2 to 4 times faster than the speeds people get, In Ireland DSl, Cable and the bigger fixed Wireless systems do close to package speed. Assuming you can get the package at all here
Figures are from BBC survey with built in speed test.

shortys94

I'm really glad to have gotten fixed wireless from westnet, reliable broadband too. Eircom don't really bother with our area at all, my Grandma had touble even trying to get a phoneline from eircom! She had to get a wireless connection for her phone from Knock Airport!