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Lose 10lbs in 3 Days - Safe Hospital Diet

  • 28-05-2008 5:26pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    Recently I was passed on a diet from a friend. This is a Three day diet which works on Chemical Breakdown. You do the diet for three days and take four days rest. You lose 40lbs a month if you stick to it.


    This diet is from Beaumont Hospital - And is given to patients who need to lose weight quickly and safely for Heart Surgery.


    has anyone else come across this diet?

    And if you have - Is it effective?


    Yvonne :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    are you going for heart surgery?

    if not stay away. seems very dubious but without any sort of solid details on the diet no one here can advise you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    honestly....these things cant be good for you...you might end up in beaumount :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    Cremo wrote: »
    are you going for heart surgery?

    if not stay away. seems very dubious but without any sort of solid details on the diet no one here can advise you.


    Nope I aint having Heart Surgery .



    This is the Diet:


    Day 1:

    Breakfast: 1 Slice Dry Toast
    2 tsp Peanut Butter


    Lunch: Half Cup Tuna (in Brine)
    2tsp Peanut Butter
    Black Tea/Coffee

    Dinner: 2 Slices Cold Meat 3 ozs
    1 Cup String Beans
    1 Cup Beetroot (without vinegar)
    1 Small Apple
    Half Cup Vanilla Ice-Cream




    Day 2 and 3 are quite similar with addition of eggs, banana, cheese, melon more veg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    Lol, Wtf?

    A hospital offers that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭lindak


    I am sure these people are under supervision while they are put on these type of diets!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    I'm more concerned about why the OP is looking for people who did it and found it effective if they're not getting heart surgery.

    Which means they'd be eating the above or whatever it entails without medical supervision. Which to me looks like far too little food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    tribulus wrote: »
    I'm more concerned about why the OP is looking for people who did it and found it effective if they're not getting heart surgery.

    Which means they'd be eating the above or whatever it entails without medical supervision. Which to me looks like far too little food.



    Why does anyone want to know if things are effective - to get quick results.


    I am just enquiring if anyone else has had this passed on to them at any point. It was emailed to me.


    if this is legitimite then surely it is safer than detoxing for three days - ?


    yea I know it is a seriously low amount of food :(


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    Evenescent wrote: »

    This diet is from Beaumont Hospital - And is given to patients who need to lose weight quickly and safely for Heart Surgery.
    Evenescent wrote: »

    Half Cup Vanilla Ice-Cream

    Ice cream to prepare someone for Heart Surgery? Classic! :pac:

    The threads on here are taking a bizarre twist in recent days. Some serious trolling going on?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    OMFG...

    How many calories in water..... Are chupa chups a good snack.... And now.... This???

    What are people thinking these days.

    OP, how long did it take to gain 40lb? You're NOT losing it in a month and keeping it off. Regardless of what diet you follow. And if I was to say what I truly thought of that diet I'd end up banned, so suffice to say, don't go near it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    Hanley wrote: »
    OMFG...

    How many calories in water..... Are chupa chups a good snack.... And now.... This???

    What are people thinking these days.

    OP, how long did it take to gain 40lb? You're NOT losing it in a month and keeping it off. Regardless of what diet you follow. And if I was to say what I truly thought of that diet I'd end up banned, so suffice to say, don't go near it.


    Ya I seen the Chuppa Chupps post - lol


    Feedback has been completely negative as I had presumed which is a good thing



    Wont be going near it


    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    BossArky wrote: »
    Ice cream to prepare someone for Heart Surgery? Classic! :pac:

    The threads on here are taking a bizarre twist in recent days. Some serious trolling going on?





    Apparently its a Chemical breakdown


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    What, please explain.

    Your body is constantly breaking things down chemically.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    More like a common sense breakdown.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    +1 for common sense. Good call OP.


    The problem with this "diet" is you've no idea where your friend got it from, you've no idea if it's actually a real recommended diet, you've no idea whom it is recommended to (I doubt the same one's given to a 400lb man and 125lb woman...). You really don't know anything about the diet, where it came from or why it was written as it was.

    Besides, any weight you lose in those 3 days is going to be undigested food in your stomach, glycogen, or water. Certainly not fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I would be very surprised if any diet could drop 10lbs in 3 days under normal circumstances. 10lbs of fat equates to roughly 35,000 calories.
    So your body would need to burn roughly 11,300 calories per day *on top* of whatever's in your food.

    Even if you stretch it out as a whole week's weight loss, then that's an additional 5,000 calories per day burned on top of whatever you eat. That's a 5.5 hour slow jog. Every day. For a week.

    Perhaps you may see these results on people who are hideously obese, but for anyone just looking to lose a tiny bit of weight, no chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    BossArky wrote: »
    More like a common sense breakdown.





    I dunno - Was passed to me and recommended - I am questioning it - Looking for opinions - guarantee someone on here will endorse it.


    Not looking for abuse thanks - just general feedback :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    seamus wrote: »
    I would be very surprised if any diet could drop 10lbs in 3 days under normal circumstances. 10lbs of fat equates to roughly 35,000 calories.
    So your body would need to burn roughly 11,300 calories per day *on top* of whatever's in your food.

    Even if you stretch it out as a whole week's weight loss, then that's an additional 5,000 calories per day burned on top of whatever you eat. That's a 5.5 hour slow jog. Every day. For a week.

    Perhaps you may see these results on people who are hideously obese, but for anyone just looking to lose a tiny bit of weight, no chance.



    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinitrophenol

    You could always try that. However it may result in a case of death.

    Honestly, slow and steady is the only long-term sustainable method of fat loss which is achieved through a reasonable diet and some exercise.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    tribulus wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinitrophenol

    You could always try that. However it may result in a case of death.

    Honestly, slow and steady is the only long-term sustainable method of fat loss which is achieved through a reasonable diet and some exercise.

    That's the stuff that cooks you from the inside out, right?

    If I fed it to a chicken could I eat it a few days later??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭tribulus


    Pretty much yeah!

    Heh, make your own cajun chicken with DNP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Evenescent wrote: »
    You lose 40lbs a month if you stick to it.
    :eek: Along with your hair, bone density, energy, muscles...

    Whatever about it being a temporary drastic solution for morbidly obese people, the fact that it has actually been spoken of as a long-term plan? The mind boggles...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    actually I remember a chap working with me done that diet....at the time he said it was a diet endorsed by the HSE.....needlessto say it didnt work

    google it...the 3 day diet....its been around years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭cunnins4


    I lost about the same amount of weight, maybe a little bit more in 10 days a few weeks ago. I got this miracle weight loss aid called tonsillitis which helped me only eat about 4 small meals over the 10 days.

    Easy!;)

    It was loads of fun, and now none of my jeans fit! Oh hoorah! I'd recommend that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    I'd say if I fasted for 3 days I'd have trouble shifting 10lbs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Evenescent wrote: »
    Heart Surgery


    Half Cup Vanilla Ice-Cream

    LMAO! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Evenescent


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    LMAO! :D




    ,Tis my duty to entertain


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    There was a VERY similar diet doingthe rounds in the early 1980's..i dont know where it originated but all the middle-aged women were talking about it.It supposedly guaranteed to lose a stone in a week or something and it was called a "chemical" diet.I know my mother tried it for a week and it didnt work.Just like most "miracle" diets..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Massive Urban Myth which, like most, has about 2% of truth in it and the rest is a stinking pile of BS.

    Obesity is a known major risk for heart surgery patients and some are required to lose a significant amount of weight before going under the knife. But to the best of my knowledge (and a cardiac surgeon can correct me on this) no organisation or hospital actively endorses these faddy, quick-fix diets and they are often falsely endorsed by recognised institutions.

    It's entirely possible to lose 10lb in 3 days... if you're obese to begin with. For the rest of us, a healthy, balanced diet will allow for safe and effective weight loss. You don't need to be a heart surgeon, or a brain surgeon, to work that one out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭Lothaar


    No way! My mate's cousin just lost 20lbs in Beaumont in one day!

    (He had his arm amputated.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    This is a Three day diet which works on Chemical Breakdown. You do the diet for three days and take four days rest. You lose 40lbs a month if you stick to it.

    LOL if I did this diet, I would eat so much in my 4 'rest days' out of pure starvation that I would PUT ON 40lbs in a month.

    Seriously though, I think this diet is totally unsustainable, it is just starvation and I think you would put on whatever you lost as soon as you started eating again.

    I could see Beaumont using this if they literally had days to get an obese person to lose weight, I can't see the recommending it if someone had just a few pounds to lose.

    As someone earlier said, slow and steady is the only job. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭JJ6000


    tribulus wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinitrophenol

    You could always try that. However it may result in a case of death.

    Honestly, slow and steady is the only long-term sustainable method of fat loss which is achieved through a reasonable diet and some exercise.


    Although you should definitley know what your doing before using DNP, the dangers are exaggerated in my opinion. Of course, you have to be very careful while using it and know the warning signs to look out for.

    No doubt it can be very dangerous for the reckless and those who have not done the necesssary research. If you took a handful, you could very well kill yourself.

    Definitley not advisable for anyone not competing in bodybuilding. A newbie, or anyone not seriously competing should ABSOLUTELY NOT take it. However, it can be used very effectively if you are very careful and know what you are doing.

    Even when used properly, it's not a pleasant experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Gurlzie1


    Evenescent wrote: »
    Why does anyone want to know if things are effective - to get quick results.

    If anyone is serious about shifting fat then the 'hospital diet' is so NOT the way to do it. I wish people were educated about diet enough to realise that the are no quick fixes.
    Quick results = Quickly putting the pounds back on again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭amazingemmet


    In the diets defence you probably would drop ten pounds in 3 days on it, when you count the lack of food in your colon/stomach, water weight etc. Ten pounds of fat is another story


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    The Cabbage soup diet is good should give that a try , short trm fix but im finding it a great way to kick start a healthy diet and weight loss programme....
    Iv a question though for anyone that may be able to answer? GH is it good for striping fat ? anyone any comment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    GH is it good for striping fat ? anyone any comment?
    Growth Hormone? srsly?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭JJ6000


    The Cabbage soup diet is good should give that a try , short trm fix but im finding it a great way to kick start a healthy diet and weight loss programme....
    Iv a question though for anyone that may be able to answer? GH is it good for striping fat ? anyone any comment?


    Do you compete seriously in bodybuilding/powerlifting?
    Have you trained intensely for at least 5-6 years?
    Do you have around 350euro per month to spare....for at least 10 months?
    Is your diet 100% spot on?

    No? THen no need to even THINK about GH.

    Seriously, whoever reccomended GH to you is a fool. Mentioning GH in the same post as a cabbage soup diet is ludicrous.

    BTW, GH is no "short term fix". To see appreciable results, you're looking at at least 10 months on it & at least Eur3,500.

    Good dieting = cheaper, healthier & just as/more effective.

    You seem fairly new & inexperienced. Drugs are the last thing you should be thinking about now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    Ha Ha Im not using the cabbage soup diet to kickstart my way to GH!
    Im an optimist and have been training hard last 4 years before that just training... Im not into body building just trying to achive a nice toned shape....Just Iv tried just about evrything within reason to shift this extra weight just wont go... some days i train for 3 hours do a bit in the morning then little more in the afternoon and im very active ... Just read a bit in an article and I have never heard of it taught it might help with my training a little ...
    Should i take that as a no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭JJ6000


    Ha Ha Im not using the cabbage soup diet to kickstart my way to GH!
    Im an optimist and have been training hard last 4 years before that just training... Im not into body building just trying to achive a nice toned shape....Just Iv tried just about evrything within reason to shift this extra weight just wont go... some days i train for 3 hours do a bit in the morning then little more in the afternoon and im very active ... Just read a bit in an article and I have never heard of it taught it might help with my training a little ...
    Should i take that as a no?


    Well, I can appreciate that you're committed and have been training for some time but if you're training 3 hours a day and the weight wont shift then it would seem there is something wrong with your diet/training. ( I would consider the cabbage soup diet, as I understand it, to be a terrible choice so you may wish to reconsider this)

    Either way, drugs are not the type of thing you take for a "little help". if your looking to be merely relatively lean or strong or to look pretty good, then it should be attainable naturally. If your looking to go to a level above this (eg. competing at a high level), then "maybe", after many years of serious training and reaching a very high natural level, you could consider drugs. It's a serious decision that you need to go into for a very good reason (eg. being a competitive athlete) and that you need to be fully aware of/research ALL the facts prior to doing so. You should know EXACTLY what you are doing.

    I have nothing against people using performance enhancing drugs....but it must be done wisely and for the right reasons.

    So, in short, you should take it as a no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    Well thank you for your advise , Il shall take it on board ...
    So I'l just have to stick at it so! ever the optimist!
    I done a taining diary n everything a while back for about 8 weeks
    had a calorie defict , carbs in the morning hight protein etc
    Training very hard high intensity , resistance training , plenty of cardio
    But do you think that some girls just cant shift some bits, period!
    Like im quite fit , generaly well toned just have little love handles & a bit of a tum that bug the s**t outa me !!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Well thank you for your advise , Il shall take it on board ...
    So I'l just have to stick at it so! ever the optimist!
    I done a taining diary n everything a while back for about 8 weeks
    had a calorie defict , carbs in the morning hight protein etc
    Training very hard high intensity , resistance training , plenty of cardio
    But do you think that some girls just cant shift some bits, period!
    Like im quite fit , generaly well toned just have little love handles & a bit of a tum that bug the s**t outa me !!!!

    You're obviously missing something. It might be a question of having a larger deficit, changing your training or simply having a bit of patience.

    Post up your weight, sex (presumbly female?) diet, training etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    I am a 27 year old female , 5ft 7 weighing 10st 9. My BMI is normal but i have stuborn fat around the middle.
    I train 6 days per week .il give you a run down of this week
    day 1 gym bodyline class, 40 mins carido
    day 2 30-40 mins resistance training , carido 40 mins
    Day 3 Kickboxing 1 and half hours
    day 4 run on beach 40 mins & Boxcerise class 1.5 hrs
    Day 5 cycle the to the gym (30mis) total core class and 1hr steady pace walk
    Day 6 kickboxing 1.5 hrs

    thats this week so far I usually do more weights noramaly
    my usual training is
    weights & Cardio (arms & Tum)
    Weigts & carido (arms & Tum)
    Weights & cardio (legs)
    Weights & caido (legs)
    Carido
    and kickboxing at least once a week.
    and odd bodyline and pump and tone and i incoporate pilates into my training ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    Even freinds comment for the training i do and how i eat i should be like a stick. Im never out of the gym. now i feel great in myself good energy levels and so forth fairly fit just cant shift the middle!!! AAHhhhhhhhhhhh
    n it wrecks my head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Is it possible that you're eating too little?? Your body may have gone into starvation mode and is trying desperately to cling onto any fat that's left.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Is it possible that you're eating too little?? Your body may have gone into starvation mode and is trying desperately to cling onto any fat that's left.

    I'd go with that.

    And the fact your training REALLY isn't optimal if you want to have a good body. Look at all the cardio you're doing. That's gonna consume a massive amount of calories, so much so that your body probably won't want to give away any kcals from fat to fuel it (eg you're buring glycogen, muscle etc because your body's trying to protect itself and all this will achieve is you attaining the "skinny fat" look).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    Whats the skinny fat look? i wasnt aware that there was one... I wouldnt say im fat by no means just can pinch an inch at my waist and hips. Now not to the extent where its hanging out its just not solid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Whats the skinny fat look? i wasnt aware that there was one... I wouldnt say im fat by no means just can pinch an inch at my waist and hips. Now not to the extent where its hanging out its just not solid

    That's pretty much what the 'skinny fat' look is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    That's pretty much what the 'skinny fat' look is.
    Uggh! Im now more determined to shift it now... skinny fat look, is that what people call it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Uggh! Im now more determined to shift it now... skinny fat look, is that what people call it ?

    Yeah. I'm not doing a great job at describing it though!!

    I think a change in your program and a rejig of your diet might be order to give you a more 'toned' look!! I'm guessing that's kinda what you're after??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Annabellsxxx


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Yeah. I'm not doing a great job at describing it though!!

    I think a change in your program and a rejig of your diet might be order to give you a more 'toned' look!! I'm guessing that's kinda what you're after??

    yep that's all im after , im not looking to be a size 0 or anything im a normal size healthy girl i would be much happier and more confident if i was a little more toned that all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Yeah. I'm not doing a great job at describing it though!!

    I think a change in your program and a rejig of your diet might be order to give you a more 'toned' look!! I'm guessing that's kinda what you're after??

    Skinny fat = slim girl in decent shape, but when you look under the clothes she/he looks "soft" with no real tone or definition. You can generally pinch some/alot of fat in this case.

    Toned = http://www.gmcgp.net/images/promo_stacey.jpg


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