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nearest housing estates to genzyme

  • 27-05-2008 7:26pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭


    I was wondering what are the nearest housing estates to genzyme in waterford, im starting work there soon and I havent got a car at the moment so Im hoping to get a place within walking distance as close as I can , please only list the nice areas :)

    also any gyms near those areas?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Chochese


    Places like hazelbourne, norwood, hillview, cleaboy avenue, skibbereen lawn/road, Comeragh Green and TirConnell Close/Ave are all within a 10 min walk, if not less...

    I think there's a gym in the tycor centre, which would be a 10 min walk in the other direction


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    what about lismore park ,that seems really close?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    lismore park is lovely, and the plus side is that if you were looking to rent there now, you wont have a problem as any students who were renting there (its close to w.i.t. also) will more than likely be gone home for summer. good luck in the job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    It is, this is going to be controversial, but nice and Lismore/Clayboy areas often don't go hand in hand. Households with lots of kids, lots of rentals, students etc. If you are looking for peace and quiet within walking then you may have a challange ahead of you. There may be pockets of goodness.

    Just a thought you are looking to buy a house but don't have a car? I'd buy a cheap car first.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    mike im just looking to rent a single room in house for now maybe for 3 to 6 months but it must be walking distance to genzyme but I should have a car within 3 months


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    mike you obviously dont know the area too well. areas like wodlawn grove, templars hall etc did suffer with students for a while, but that seems to have changed recently with the amount of purpose built student accomodation thats sprung up. there is always going to be some students in an area near a college but thats life.
    and as for a neighbourhood with lots of kids?? usually means quieter nights in my experience. but if you want to stick to preconcieved notions mike, thats your own business


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ah fair enough, I guess if you are looking for a short-term solution your options are broader.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    I was wondering what are the nearest residetial areas to kingfisher gym in waterford?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    I was wondering what are the nearest residetial areas to kingfisher gym in waterford?
    Ursuline Court/Cork Road


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭tubey


    Are you male or female OP?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    male


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Cherrymount, Avondale, St Herblain, Johns Park, Pearse Park, Prospect Mews, Greenfields (I think)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    tubey wrote: »
    Are you male or female OP?
    What's that got to do with where the nearest housing estate is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭pommers


    Woodgate wrote: »
    What's that got to do with where the nearest housing estate is?

    yeah i would like to know aswell :confused:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    longshanks wrote: »
    mike you obviously dont know the area too well. areas like wodlawn grove, templars hall etc did suffer with students for a while, but that seems to have changed recently with the amount of purpose built student accomodation thats sprung up. there is always going to be some students in an area near a college but thats life.
    and as for a neighbourhood with lots of kids?? usually means quieter nights in my experience. but if you want to stick to preconcieved notions mike, thats your own business

    Templers Hall remains a big problem according to residents. Lismore Park seems to be also. Now, iv seen the lady recording all the students and I think it seems to be a bit over the top. I see a lot of cabs and students and a few hous partys but it doesnt seem as bad as being made out.. Plus, the guards are always about.

    Im not familar with other areas but what student specific accommodation has sprung up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    how long would it take for someone to walk from the kingfisher gym to genzyme basically I would workout there at 6am and be finished my workout at 6.50am I start work at 8am in genzyme, this is only till I get a car which should not be long


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    It takes me about 10mins to get from SuperQuinn to WIT on foot so to get to Genzyme would be another 10sh? At a guess...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Okay iv merged the two topics in as its pointles having the same question (pretty much) in two different topics :)

    Your working in Genzyme and will be looking for a gym thats close to the area. Kingsfisher is the only one I can think of, maybe Waterford Crystal which is nearer.. I assume WITs gym is for students only. Estates near there are mainly student estates some of which have a poor reputation for trouble (usual student stuff id imagine).

    Topic Merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    Blackberry Fields behind genzyme on the carrickphierish road.. Im not sure if there is normal apartament buidlings there most are council houses.. but I think there is! Its nice an quiet and close to genzyme!

    Network with your people: https://www.builtinireland.ie/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    Sully wrote: »
    Okay iv merged the two topics in as its pointles having the same question (pretty much) in two different topics :)

    Your working in Genzyme and will be looking for a gym thats close to the area. Kingsfisher is the only one I can think of, maybe Waterford Crystal which is nearer.. I assume WITs gym is for students only. Estates near there are mainly student estates some of which have a poor reputation for trouble (usual student stuff id imagine).

    Topic Merged
    It's all over the place now. Two different questions totally.

    Kingfisher is the other side of town to Genzyme.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Woodgate wrote: »
    It's all over the place now. Two different questions totally.

    Kingfisher is the other side of town to Genzyme.

    There still pretty close to each other.. Its not the complete opposite end of town. There a short distance apart so I felt that the one thread dealing with locations near both is easier rather then having two for each question. What the OP is looking for is a solution to where he should live if he works in Genzyme and goes to the gym in Kingsfisher :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    Sully wrote: »
    There still pretty close to each other.. Its not the complete opposite end of town. There a short distance apart so I felt that the one thread dealing with locations near both is easier rather then having two for each question. What the OP is looking for is a solution to where he should live if he works in Genzyme and goes to the gym in Kingsfisher :)
    The post I replied to looked for the closest housing estate to the Kingfisher club, which for arguments sake would be Cherrymount/Ursline Court. They are not close/near to Genzyme, which is the other post.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Woodgate wrote: »
    The post I replied to looked for the closest housing estate to the Kingfisher club, which for arguments sake would be Cherrymount/Ursline Court. They are not close/near to Genzyme, which is the other post.

    Fair point, but perhaps just editing to state that? I just thought it might be a bit better if it was more centralised considering the question being posed :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭timetogetfit


    to clear things up basically Im undecided whether to join the kingfisher gym or waterford weightlifting gym

    pros Kingfisher
    1.I can go before work as its open at 6
    2.nicer women :D

    Cons kingfisher
    1.its further from genzyme
    2.weights arent as good

    pros of waterford weightlifting club
    1.much better for lifting weights
    2.nea genzyme hence near genzyme hence near a place I can rent

    cons
    1.not open before 8 so cant go before work so it may be very busy in the evening

    Then thing is once I get a car all this wont matter but getting to the gym before work is a big perk for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    mike65 wrote: »
    It is, this is going to be controversial, but nice and Lismore/Clayboy areas often don't go hand in hand. Households with lots of kids, lots of rentals, students etc. If you are looking for peace and quiet within walking then you may have a challange ahead of you. There may be pockets of goodness.

    Just a thought you are looking to buy a house but don't have a car? I'd buy a cheap car first.

    Mike.

    Mike, that quite a sweeping, and at times, arrogant, generalisation. The same could be said of any area in the City really.

    Dunmore Road - invaded by nurses, doctors, et al.

    Ursuline Court/Cherrymount/Avondale; Large influx of students due to proximity to Manor Street campus. Have a walk through Ursuline Court or Cherrymount - you'll see what I mean.

    To the OP:

    Walking distances from the LOVELY:D Cleaboy/Lismore areas to Genzyme:

    Hillview: 15 - 20 minutes

    Ashley Court: 10 - 15 minutes

    Hazelbourne: 10 Minutes

    Comeragh Green/Heights: 10 minutes

    Lismore Park. Walking times will vary - max 15 minutes.

    Hope that helps. And ignore Mike. It's a grand location.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    how long would it take for someone to walk from the kingfisher gym to genzyme basically I would workout there at 6am and be finished my workout at 6.50am I start work at 8am in genzyme, this is only till I get a car which should not be long

    It is at least a 20 - 25 minute walk to Genzyme from Kingfisher. And not at a leisurely p[ace.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Lets be fair.. some places in the city are rougher then others, some place in the city are more student based then proper residential locations (family's and stuff). Each estate is different. What mike said was fairly bang on - Lismore park is an estate with a bucket load of students that has caused trouble in the past. Do Domino's still refuse to deliver there?

    I haven't heard much about trouble in Lismore Park anymore so it may have improved but at one stage there were protests, complaints to the college by residents about noise pollution etc. The problem now seems to be focusing on Templers Hall where problems have been reported at the back and now at the front. The college sent out a warning letter to all students and meetings are regular between the college and the residents association who are not happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Ursuline Court/Cherrymount/Avondale; Large influx of students due to proximity to Manor Street campus. Have a walk through Ursuline Court or Cherrymount - you'll see what I mean.

    Very little student population in Cherrymount.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Sully wrote: »
    Lets be fair.. some places in the city are rougher then others, some place in the city are more student based then proper residential locations (family's and stuff). Each estate is different. What mike said was fairly bang on - Lismore park is an estate with a bucket load of students that has caused trouble in the past. Do Domino's still refuse to deliver there?

    I haven't heard much about trouble in Lismore Park anymore so it may have improved but at one stage there were protests, complaints to the college by residents about noise pollution etc. The problem now seems to be focusing on Templers Hall where problems have been reported at the back and now at the front. The college sent out a warning letter to all students and meetings are regular between the college and the residents association who are not happy.


    Sully, do you actually READ the entire post?:rolleyes: What Mike said was Lismore/Clayboy areas (the correct spelling is Cleaboy), which encompasses the bones of 2.000 homes. It is a generalisation of the worst kind - something you constantly berate at every available opportunity.

    Ken - there is a very LARGE student population in Ursuline Court/Crescent, and Ashley Court/Crescent in Cherrymount.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Sully, do you actually READ the entire post?:rolleyes: What Mike said was Lismore/Clayboy areas (the correct spelling is Cleaboy), which encompasses the bones of 2.000 homes. It is a generalisation of the worst kind - something you constantly berate at every available opportunity.

    Ken - there is a very LARGE student population in Ursuline Court/Crescent, and Ashley Court/Crescent in Cherrymount.

    I think my post clearly refers to Lismore Park likewise an other post states im not familar with the other estates. I was simply pointing out that despite you saying its not true - it is true. Lismore Park had/has a bad name at the moment due to it being student living mainly :)

    Do YOU actually read my entire post?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭ec18


    Dominoes never refused to deliver to lismore park it was lisduggan they refused to deliver to....Theres rarely any trouble in Lismore park as its generally older students that live there. The main trouble in lismore park is with people from the college parking there


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    ec18 wrote: »
    Dominoes never refused to deliver to lismore park it was lisduggan they refused to deliver to....Theres rarely any trouble in Lismore park as its generally older students that live there. The main trouble in lismore park is with people from the college parking there

    IIRC, they wouldn't go into Lismore Park but they would allow pickups at Lisdugan.. I remember people had to pick up Pizzas at the bank. Lismore Park was causing problems at least when I was in first & second year as I recall newspaper articles about a protest and a college disciplinary meeting was called with regards to some students. This is to the best of my recollection anyway!

    EDIT: Completey and utterly made a balls of that. As ec18 said, it was Lisduggan. Apologises for the mix up!


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Sully wrote: »
    IIRC, they wouldn't go into Lismore Park but they would allow pickups at Lisdugan.. I remember people had to pick up Pizzas at the bank. Lismore Park was causing problems at least when I was in first & second year as I recall newspaper articles about a protest and a college disciplinary meeting was called with regards to some students. This is to the best of my recollection anyway!


    You are incorrect. Dominos never had problems with Lismore Pk. It was just lisduggan. Residents there had to go to the roundabout at Walsh Pk or the BOI building at the Waterford Shopping Centre.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Okay sorry, I got the Dominos thing wrong.. was discussing it with ec18 and I did a bit of research and found this article: http://archives.tcm.ie/waterfordnews/2007/05/04/story25497.asp

    Yes it was Lisduggan that Dominos stopped delivering to. Apologies for the mix up and for any offense caused.

    Off Topic: I cleaned the topic from off-topic nonsense. If you have a problem, take it to Feedback. Stop derailing threads and the forum with all this nonsense. It cant be improved without constructive feedback either via PM or Feedback. Thanks.


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  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Sully wrote: »
    Okay sorry, I got the Dominos thing wrong.. was discussing it with ec18 and I did a bit of research and found this article: http://archives.tcm.ie/waterfordnews/2007/05/04/story25497.asp

    Yes it was Lisduggan that Dominos stopped delivering to. Apologies for the mix up and for any offense caused.

    Off Topic: I cleaned the topic from off-topic nonsense. If you have a problem, take it to Feedback. Stop derailing threads and the forum with all this nonsense. It cant be improved without constructive feedback either via PM or Feedback. Thanks.

    Excuse me now for a sec Sully, another user questioned how you were a mod, because you were clearly wrong in a post and you were adamant that you were right. I merely agreed with him. How is that derailing the thread. Anyway you have finally accepted you are not always Right.

    So I guess we can move on. There is no real issue so there is no need to add to the sully bashing thread already in the feedback section.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    Excuse me now for a sec Sully, another user questioned how you were a mod, because you were clearly wrong in a post and you were adamant that you were right. I merely agreed with him. How is that derailing the thread. Anyway you have finally accepted you are not always Right.

    Excuse me Aquos. Only ONE person questioned what I said about Dominos delivering, and I discussed it with him further and found out I was wrong. I then retracted the statement and apologised. I was trying to recall to the best of knowledge events and it seems I got the issues in Lismore Park mixed up with the Dominos delivery. The comment followed by shanks is part of continuing remarks by him and a small group of others who dont like how I moderate. My post was NOT moderating in the slightest and that retarted comment was posted which you did more then merely agree with. We have a Feedback forum - use it. This isnt Feedback.
    So I guess we can move on. There is no real issue so there is no need to add to the sully bashing thread already in the feedback section.

    Yes, lets stick to the topic. If you have anything further to add, PM, Feedback or HelpDesk are options open to you and others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Sully wrote: »
    I think my post clearly refers to Lismore Park likewise an other post states im not familar with the other estates. I was simply pointing out that despite you saying its not true - it is true. Lismore Park had/has a bad name at the moment due to it being student living mainly :)

    Do YOU actually read my entire post?:rolleyes:

    I do Sully - unlike you. You say above that Lismore Park Had/has a bad name at the moment, then you go on to say that I haven't heard much about trouble in Lismore Park anymore :p

    Which is it?:confused:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    On the ball as usual Freddie, I get the impression your stalking to me to catch me out!

    From my knowledge, Lismore Park has been a troublesome area with Students. ec18 has agreed with me (was a conversation outside of these forums) that it has had its trouble. Mike seems to think it still is. I am not to sure if it remains to be a problem, but it previously was. I cant say for certain if it is - hence the had/has.

    Stop nit picking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Sully wrote: »
    Stop nit picking.

    So pointing out a gross contradiction is now 'nit picking'?:rolleyes: As one who lives in the general area which Mike likes to put down so frequently, it would be nice to know roughly where Mike himself lives. Glass houses, stones, and all of that.....;)


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    So pointing out a gross contradiction is now 'nit picking'?:rolleyes: As one who lives in the general area which Mike likes to put down so frequently, it would be nice to know roughly where Mike himself lives. Glass houses, stones, and all of that.....;)

    I wouldnt call it a gross contradiction at all. It has had its trouble and it may still have. Hence the had/has. So yes, picking out those two words to try prove a point is indeed nit picking. :rolleyes:

    Who cares where Mike lives? He only pointed out that Lismore Park wouldnt be an ideal estate to live in due to it consisting a lot with students and having its past trouble. Fair enough it might be a bit unfair to say there are only pockets of good areas but you have to understand his POV?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    Sully wrote: »
    He only pointed out that Lismore Park wouldnt be an ideal estate to live in due to it consisting a lot with students and having its past trouble. Fair enough it might be a bit unfair to say there are only pockets of good areas but you have to understand his POV?
    Equally though his "POV" is giving a negative image to a very large area consisting, like many other places, of many family homes of people who have lived there many years. The person is actually looking for somewhere NOW, and not in the PAST as mentioned above. It would be nice if the comments actually dealt with what the estate/area is like to live in NOW, not the usual hearsay and constant reliving of the selective past.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Woodgate wrote: »
    Equally though his "POV" is giving a negative image to a very large area consisting, like many other places, of many family homes of people who have lived there many years. The person is actually looking for somewhere NOW, and not in the PAST as mentioned above. It would be nice if the comments actually dealt with what the estate/area is like to live in NOW, not the usual hearsay and constant reliving of the selective past.

    Fair point.. I can only comment about previous reports. Iv no idea what its like now, but I just thought that perhaps a word of warning might not go astray - just in case :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Woodgate wrote: »
    Equally though his "POV" is giving a negative image to a very large area consisting, like many other places, of many family homes of people who have lived there many years. The person is actually looking for somewhere NOW, and not in the PAST as mentioned above. It would be nice if the comments actually dealt with what the estate/area is like to live in NOW, not the usual hearsay and constant reliving of the selective past.

    Agreed. The term generalisation comes to mind......again!:eek::rolleyes::)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Agreed. The term generalisation comes to mind......again!:eek::rolleyes::)

    Tis an awful word, makes baby jesus cry I tell ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭AlphaMale 3OO


    kensutz wrote: »
    Cherrymount, Avondale, St Herblain, Johns Park, Pearse Park, Prospect Mews, Greenfields (I think)

    I'm not starting another Ballybeg thread here but dont go near Cherrymount, Avondale or Johns Park. They can be a little on the rough side. Don't know about the others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    forbesii wrote: »
    I'm not starting another Ballybeg thread here but dont go near Cherrymount, Avondale or Johns Park. They can be a little on the rough side. Don't know about the others.


    That's a stupid ****ing post.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    oh no, this isn't going to end well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    kensutz wrote: »
    That's a stupid ****ing post.
    I agree.

    The topic should be closed at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Woodgate wrote: »
    The topic should be closed at this stage.

    I agree.

    Is there something in the water around here lately?

    Btw, Ken, no point in responding like that - Just report the post, and I'll sort it out from there ;)


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