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Who will the Liverpool fans cheer on tomorrow night?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭bantee


    Predhead wrote: »
    I totally agree. I disagree with opposing fans' ridiculous overreaction towards him. Basically what they dislike in the player.

    Its because basically every other supporter would love it if he was in their team! Liverpool fans would be drooling of the thought of Ronaldo and Torres in the same team. They have been dreaming of getting a quality wide player for years now! :D
    MacManaman was the last decent winger they had.
    A lot of the responses in the thread in general are sour grapes that they aren't in Moscow tmw night.


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bantee wrote: »
    A lot of the responses in the thread in general are sour grapes that they aren't in Moscow tmw night.

    We'd be the same in all fairness. But thats not to say there arent sour grapes, both it goes BOTH ways.


    Tbh I didnt watch much of either final Liverpool were in, funnily enough the only part of the 2005 match I saw was the 15 or so mins where the Scousers scored 3.... I turned it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    RE*AC*TOR wrote: »
    Nah, I have liked plenty of UTD players over the years. Thought Cantona was a legend. Ronaldo though is the most egotistical, "look at me" player I've ever seen. I get the impression that if UTD score and he isn't the centre of it, then he's pissed off. I know UTD fans who feel the same way.

    But this is the sorta guy who LOVES celebrating other people goals
    rio-celebration.jpg

    which is why i cant stomach him either, in much the same as ronaldo. i have no problem admitting that both of them are very good players, but that doesn't mean i have to like them.

    I cant decide who i want to win, or who i want to lose more. I'm a 'pool supporter, i have annoying united supporting mates who will be annoying me if they win, i cant stand rio and sir alex, van de sarr and ronaldo.
    But at the same time i hate Chelsea because they have brought football to a new level of money driven professionalism in England. Sure there was guys moving clubs just for the cash before they became rich, but I didnt feel it was so blatent and I hate to see them win anything (and also could list off players that make my skin crawl to watch them walk around so smugly.)
    And it will be sickening to see Chelsea added to the elite roll of honor clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd and errrrr Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa who have won european cups.

    To be honest, I just hope its a good match, and the team that wins are the team who tries to and plays the best most postitve football on the night, but regardless of who wins the losing team will whinge and moan about a penalty or something for all eternity as thats the ethics of modern football anymore and its rare that credit where credit is due is given to rivals in big pressure situations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    FFS, he's clearly celebrating that the TEAM have scored. Every player celebrates when someone on their team scores. That's a stupid comment. As I said before, people will say anything to justify bitterness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    Oh my God it's Stevie Me! And look, he's celebrating a goal Agger scored. :rolleyes:

    chel_005_470x336.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Predhead wrote: »
    FFS, he's clearly celebrating that the TEAM have scored. Every player celebrates when someone on their team scores. That's a stupid comment. As I said before, people will say anything to justify bitterness.

    I know its a stupid comment, but who says the comment before about Ronaldo hating when someone scores is an entirely subjective comment?
    I acknowledge that Rio is a really good player, but I explained the reason why I dislike him?

    Oh and on Steve-Me he is usually up that end of the field to share in the celebration......Rio covers some some serious ground for his stage dives :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    gucci wrote: »
    I know its a stupid comment, but who says the comment before about Ronaldo hating when someone scores is an entirely subjective comment?
    I acknowledge that Rio is a really good player, but I explained the reason why I dislike him?

    Oh and on Steve-Me he is usually up that end of the field to share in the celebration......Rio covers some some serious ground for his stage dives :D

    I know but to mention the fact he runs an extra 20 yards or so to celebrate is silly. I hope he scores tonight and does a lap!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Predhead wrote: »
    I know but to mention the fact he runs an extra 20 yards or so to celebrate is silly. I hope he scores tonight and does a lap!! :D

    Which would also be silly. Celebrations in general is silly, a clap on the back and get on with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    and after the match a line

    A line which I'm guessing you may just have crossed with that allegation


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gucci wrote: »
    Which would also be silly. Celebrations in general is silly, a clap on the back and get on with it.

    So u have a problem with 90% of footballers so.


    U do know that when u score for your Sunday league team that its not the same rush as scoring in front of 80 thousand people, probably earning yourself a 5 grand bonus for scoring, helping yourself win trophies that will see you go down in club folklore etc, but yea I agree, how dare they get excited.


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  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    and after the match a line

    FFS, and u base that on what evidence now??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    FFS, and u base that on what evidence now??
    "forgetting" to go to drug tests?


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RE*AC*TOR wrote: »
    "forgetting" to go to drug tests?

    Ok, he was informed he had missed it and took the test 2 hours later and passed it. So in effect, a passed dugs test, thats basis to accuse him of cocaine use now? Maybe slag him off for being a dozy bastard, its justified but thats this ludicrous and completely uncalled for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    So u have a problem with 90% of footballers so.


    U do know that when u score for your Sunday league team that its not the same rush as scoring in front of 80 thousand people, probably earning yourself a 5 grand bonus for scoring, helping yourself win trophies that will see you go down in club folklore etc, but yea I agree, how dare they get excited.

    So scoring against Middlesborough is going down in club folklore? Ah it all makes sense now!
    Yeah I probably do have a problem with 90% of footballers, but that shows what a spiteful B****x i am. I understand the rush of scoring a goal (wouldnt be scoring bags of them....but i know it feels great), but covering 40-50 yards to mount the guy who scored is the bit I could never be arsed doing, maybe thats the 5grand bonus that separates them guys from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    Ok, he was informed he had missed it and took the test 2 hours later and passed it.

    I thought it was 36 hours later? And cocaine can only be detected in urine for about 2-4 days after use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    gucci wrote: »
    Oh and on Steve-Me he is usually up that end of the field to share in the celebration......Rio covers some some serious ground for his stage dives :D

    so? its called passion, your team have just scored, hell van der sar celebrated with the team over the other end of the pitch when giggsy got the goal that gave them the Premier league! its called the joy of football, itrs a n emotional game and if any player wants to celebrate with thair team its allowed!

    and anyway that goal could have been scored from a corner, rio goes up for corners so he could have already been up there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Me i shall be sitting down in front of the tv. Turn sky to channel 448 at 7:30 and watch the Road to Istanbul and then at 8pm kick-off starts of the greastest ever European Cup Final.

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    so? its called passion, your team have just scored, hell van der sar celebrated with the team over the other end of the pitch when giggsy got the goal that gave them the Premier league! its called the joy of football, itrs a n emotional game and if any player wants to celebrate with thair team its allowed!

    and anyway that goal could have been scored from a corner, rio goes up for corners so he could have already been up there!

    That I can understand.

    Look, this was a thread where I was trying to outlline why i wouldnt be happy seeing either Chelsea or Man U tonight, so that proves im a bitter fecker from the start, maybe we should have the "goal celebrations are stupid Vs the goal celebrations are essential" thread in a few weeks when we have no football to discuss!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,529 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    Hate both clubs for reasons that are clear as day...but from a historical point of view i would want Chelsea to win...not even going to watch the match the two of them sicken me so much. QUOTE]

    I'm with you ! Only going for Chelski cos I know less of their supporters , so wont have to listen to them . Some of my friends are from Manchester and they would be unbearable .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Predhead wrote: »
    Think you'll find Munich happened first and there were songs about that first. But nevermind the facts eh.

    What about Liverpool fans robbing their own fans in Turkey 3 years ago for a ticket? Liverpool fans getting English clubs banned from Europe for 5 years? Liverpool fans destroying Old Trafford - tearing up seats, breaking urinals and writing things about Harold Shippman on the walls?

    Every club has a bad element, Utd included, but I've never come across a more disgusting set of fans than Liverpools bad element.

    Also you're using examples for an argument you can't possibly win, Rafa is a hypocrite, so is Fergie, so is Avram Grant etc. All fans have distasteful songs about another club..I could go on! Seriously you sound so bitter. It's football and unfortunately there are a lot of tossers supporting a lot of clubs. Live with it, or be very very unhappy for the rest of your supporting life.

    Here we go fan bashing.

    If you get your facts right you will know it was Maggie Thachter who asked UEFA to ban English teams traveling to Europe, UEFA were just going to fine Liverpool until she stepped in.

    I guess you did not see the You Tube video *i cant search is its blocked here in work* where it had the Man Utd fans fighting with each other in the Charity shield.

    Have you never seen pictures from Anfields away end after a Utd game? Writen on seats 96 was not enough.

    ******



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  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Here we go fan bashing.

    If you get your facts right you will know it was Maggie Thachter who asked UEFA to ban English teams traveling to Europe, UEFA were just going to fine Liverpool until she stepped in.

    I guess you did not see the You Tube video *i cant search is its blocked here in work* where it had the Man Utd fans fighting with each other in the Charity shield.

    Have you never seen pictures from Anfields away end after a Utd game? Writen on seats 96 was not enough.

    Ok, can u not get this BOTH clubs have their muppet element. Uniteds fans Ive spoken to have little empathy for some other clubs because from 1958 until the 80s they had to contend with being called the "Munichs" and having to listen to "Whos that dyin on the runway" This video shows Liverpool fans THIS SEASON singin "Whos that Dying on the runway (3 mins 50 seconds in) so it goes both ways.
    RE*AC*TOR wrote:
    I thought it was 36 hours later? And cocaine can only be detected in urine for about 2-4 days after use.
    It was later that day IIRC. He got phoned and told to get in and do it.

    Now accusing him of cocaine use with no proof (he passed the test remember) is trolling of the highest order and he knows it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    It was later that day IIRC. He got phoned and told to get in and do it.

    http://www.chinadaily.net/en/doc/2003-10/30/content_276983.htm
    Ferdinand missed a random dope test on September 23 at his club's Carrington training ground, though he passed a test 36 hours after the scheduled one.

    http://worldsoccer.about.com/cs/theposts/a/riorio.htm
    A Manchester United and England star, Rio Ferdinand, misses a drug test through forgetfulness. Thirty six hours later he provides a sample which tests negative.


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RE*AC*TOR wrote: »
    http://www.chinadaily.net/en/doc/2003-10/30/content_276983.htm
    Ferdinand missed a random dope test on September 23 at his club's Carrington training ground, though he passed a test 36 hours after the scheduled one.

    http://worldsoccer.about.com/cs/theposts/a/riorio.htm
    A Manchester United and England star, Rio Ferdinand, misses a drug test through forgetfulness. Thirty six hours later he provides a sample which tests negative.
    Fair enough. My memory is goin hazy in my old age.



    Regardless, theres no grounds for accusing him unless he failed a test, which he didnt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    Regardless, theres no grounds for accusing him unless he failed a test, which he didnt.

    Michelle Smith never failed a test either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    i love the way this thread is gone!
    as usual anything to do with pool manu ends up as playground sh1t.
    and liverpool arent even playing.

    i hope chelsea win it tonight as some team as to and i couldnt bear Utd. i mean they cant even sell out the reduced capacity stadium for it. but they are great fans!!! the solution is to have the final in OT with prawn sandwiches and all!
    the fans on here seem more intent on liverpool fans opinions then on the game. its weird!


    and to an earlier poster who said chelsea bought success. well the combined cost of both squads is approx £40m difference(or 1 shevchenko) and Utd have had larger individual transfers.
    every team these days aims to buy success, Utd fans just forget this because 10-15 years ago they produced 5 home grown players.

    as a pool fan i would love if we had the spending power of either club.:(


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    prendy wrote: »
    i love the way this thread is gone!
    as usual anything to do with pool manu ends up as playground sh1t.
    and liverpool arent even playing.

    i hope chelsea win it tonight as some team as to and i couldnt bear Utd. i mean they cant even sell out the reduced capacity stadium for it. but they are great fans!!! the solution is to have the final in OT with prawn sandwiches and all!
    the fans on here seem more intent on liverpool fans opinions then on the game. its weird!


    and to an earlier poster who said chelsea bought success. well the combined cost of both squads is approx £40m difference(or 1 shevchenko) and Utd have had larger individual transfers.
    every team these days aims to buy success, Utd fans just forget this because 10-15 years ago they produced 5 home grown players.

    as a pool fan i would love if we had the spending power of either club.:(
    Sometimes I wonder why i bother, but here goes.

    Maybe you should check your facts before you post. United have sold out their allocation, as have Chelsea. Uniteds tickets have been sold since last week. So your wrong buddy. That took me about 30 seconds, but no, u just had to go spouting lies without checking their validity.

    Secondly, United were successful before they started spending, they spend to maintain it, as does everyone else. Chelsea on the other hand spent to get there.

    Pool have spent nearly as much as United have in the last 6 years..... only problem is most of that is wasted money on crap players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Predhead wrote: »
    Oh my God it's Stevie Me! And look, he's celebrating a goal Agger scored. :rolleyes:

    chel_005_470x336.jpg

    Yea cause he set it up

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    This thread is some load of b0llocks. All it is, is some United and Liverpool fans looking to get one over on each other.

    Pretty sad tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    Yea cause he set it up

    So only because he set it up? You're arguing the point like he never celebrates a goal his team scores in which he wasn't involved, which is stupid. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    No i am just pointing out in that picture that Gerrard had set up the goal.

    For those Liverpools fans going on about Rio running from the back to celebrate they must have miss Pepe running up to celebrate with Babel after he scored the last goal in the Arsenal game

    ******



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