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Who will the Liverpool fans cheer on tomorrow night?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭shatners basoon


    DSB wrote: »
    Yeah it obviously seems fair enough that fans might have a will for a club to lose that they've had a rivalry with for the last while. I was more asking why they sicken you. You'd swear they were a team full of rapists plotting to take over the world or something?

    Football is full of hyperbole, surely you're used to it by now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    For Liverpool fans there is no need for an explanation as history shows the hatred both sets of fans have for each other. Man U have bought success over the last 20 years...most money to buy players until Ambramovich upscaled the market.

    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Utd didn't buy success, Utd worked towards success initially with Fergie implementing the youth policy when he got to the club. We bought a few players obviously when he came in, a few hundred grand for Clayton Blackmore etc...

    ..then eventually we got success with the FA and went from strenght to strenght in the league and in Europe to some extent. With success came more revenue. Utd became a PLC and generated more money, thus enabling them to compete with big European clubs in the transfer market, as well as be able to buy better players than their PL rivals.

    So you see, Utd's success and wealth took years to achieve, we weren't bought by a billionaire an propelled to ''big 4-dom'', although Chelsea were on the verge but needed the cash injection to really compete. Utd earned and deserve to be where they are as a club, Liverpool are trying to get there. Guess how they're doing that? By selling to Americans and spending millions on players...? Ironing no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭nedward


    DSB wrote: »
    Yeah it obviously seems fair enough that fans might have a will for a club to lose that they've had a rivalry with for the last while. I was more asking why they sicken you. You'd swear they were a team full of rapists plotting to take over the world or something?


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3073171.ece Jonny Evans rape
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4357914.stm Ronaldo rape
    http://www.brandchannel.com/features_webwatch.asp?ww_id=36 Man United - world's biggest brand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Quite a patronising question for Liverpool fans to be fair

    I'm sure most would be happy to see United lose but in the end they would prefer to concentrate on their own team


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    The site of Gary Neville is just about enough to sicken all Liverpool fans and females included. There sick songs of Hillsborough is just one of the reasons why along with what is been sung about Munich as well. The death of a life should not be disrespected in such a manner which is why they sicken me.

    Hypocritical nature of the club(Fergie included) itself over what happened with Mascherano, considering nearly the whole eleven Utd players ran after Andy D'urso back a few years ago when he gave a peno to the opposition at Old Trafford.

    Think you'll find Munich happened first and there were songs about that first. But nevermind the facts eh.

    What about Liverpool fans robbing their own fans in Turkey 3 years ago for a ticket? Liverpool fans getting English clubs banned from Europe for 5 years? Liverpool fans destroying Old Trafford - tearing up seats, breaking urinals and writing things about Harold Shippman on the walls?

    Every club has a bad element, Utd included, but I've never come across a more disgusting set of fans than Liverpools bad element.

    Also you're using examples for an argument you can't possibly win, Rafa is a hypocrite, so is Fergie, so is Avram Grant etc. All fans have distasteful songs about another club..I could go on! Seriously you sound so bitter. It's football and unfortunately there are a lot of tossers supporting a lot of clubs. Live with it, or be very very unhappy for the rest of your supporting life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    I think they will cheer United and Chelsea fans kill each other:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭hunter164


    Not going to support anyone. Not even going to watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Crapjob Sean


    After seeing a little tet-a-tet regarding the CL final on the liverpool rumours thread one of the posters comments got me curious

    and the reply from some other contributer regarding this post


    I know it was a bit of an overstatement but I would have thought its not far from the truth.

    Is there really liverpool supporters out there that will be cheering on ManU?

    I just thought I would throw a poll up to see who will you be cheering on tomorrow night

    Any scouser worth his salt that I know is hoping United get well and truly stuffed.
    I haven't got any to admit they think Chelsea have a better chance of stopping United (who, let's face it, look like they've had their name on this trophy from Day One) than they would have, but they're not that thick.

    The scousers would like United's European Cup tally to stay at 2.
    Would that the League number could stay so static.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Crapjob Sean


    hunter164 wrote: »
    Not going to support anyone. Not even going to watch it.


    Sorry, just seeing this.

    This is the most common answer I've gotten from LFC disciples of my acquaintance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭5ForKeeps


    Predhead wrote: »
    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Utd didn't buy success, Utd worked towards success initially with Fergie implementing the youth policy when he got to the club. We bought a few players obviously when he came in, a few hundred grand for Clayton Blackmore etc...

    Add Gary Pallister, Gary Parker, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Danny Wallace, Denis Irwin to name a few to the equation in the time in the 80's when the were bought were big fees there is probably more too. Utd spent some amount money back in the 80's under Fergie to get up there with Liverpool and in the 90's spent more than any manager at a club. Yorke, Stam, Cole add Keane, Cantona, May, Berg, Taibi, Blomqvist all big money back in the day and times.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    Any scouser worth his salt that I know is hoping United get well and truly stuffed.
    I haven't got any to admit they think Chelsea have a better chance of stopping United (who, let's face it, look like they've had their name on this trophy from Day One) than they would have, but they're not that thick.

    The scousers would like United's European Cup tally to stay at 2.
    Would that the League number could stay so static.

    Who cares? Is it so inconceivable to think that their might be Liverpool fans out there who just don't care? And would rather concentrate on their own clubs efforts? I know it's asking a lot from fans of Utd (if roles were reversed), Liverpool etc but if there are fans who'd rather concentrate on Liverpool then it doesn't mean they're any less of a fan. I'm a Utd fan (obviously) but I couldn't give a toss if Liverpool had won the EC again this season. OK I'd rather they'd lose but I wouldn't bother me to the extent it seems others on here. You can't live like that imo, life's too important!


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    nedward wrote: »

    Not one rape case has been taken against any Man Utd player, each time there was an allegation claimed, it was later found out to be false. By you quoting these links, you are implying that they have been trialed and found guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭5ForKeeps


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Quite a patronising question for Liverpool fans to be fair

    I'm sure most would be happy to see United lose but in the end they would prefer to concentrate on their own team

    Of course it is to bear a reaction. I have given mine i hate Man U and Chelsea. Growing up here as a youngster in the 90's listening to Utd fans and even now a bunch of glory hunting fans who jumped on the bandwagon in 1993. The fact that someone mentioned Utd only spent a hundred grand on Clayton Blackmore shows the lack of knowledge of how much money Utd spent on players.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I cant believe the amount of pool fans saying that they wont even watch the final. The same guys will be on here with score updates.

    Dont be so bitter, liverpool think they have some sort of divine right to the CL and when there not in the final, they think that its a pointless final. Get over yourselves, the football world does not revolve around liverpool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭hunter164


    Reason I ain't watching is because I've training but I still haven't got an interest in who wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭hunter164


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    the football world does not revolve around liverpool.



    Oh yes it does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    Add Gary Pallister, Gary Parker, Mark Hughes, Paul Ince, Danny Wallace, Denis Irwin to name a few to the equation in the time in the 80's when the were bought were big fees there is probably more too. Utd spent some amount money back in the 80's under Fergie to get up there with Liverpool and in the 90's spent more than any manager at a club. Yorke, Stam, Cole add Keane, Cantona, May, Berg, Taibi, Blomqvist all big money back in the day and times.


    My point is the money they spent was there's. They'd built up the club over time to be able to compete in the transfer market. It didn't happen overnight. What you're accusing Utd of Liverpool are doing now...

    Hughes was a Utd produced player who returned to the club after 2 seasons away - sold for 2m and bought back for 1.8m.

    The rest were bought over many years. As I said, it didn't happen overnight. Utd earned their success (I know many Liverpool fans that would disagree with you) as did Liverpool in the 70's - they bought players too ya know.

    You forget too that Ferguson won the EC with Aberdeen, or did he buy that aswell?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    hunter164 wrote: »
    Oh yes it does.

    So ye like to think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭5ForKeeps


    Predhead wrote: »
    Think you'll find Munich happened first and there were songs about that first. But nevermind the facts eh.

    What about Liverpool fans robbing their own fans in Turkey 3 years ago for a ticket? Liverpool fans getting English clubs banned from Europe for 5 years? Liverpool fans destroying Old Trafford - tearing up seats, breaking urinals and writing things about Harold Shippman on the walls?

    Every club has a bad element, Utd included, but I've never come across a more disgusting set of fans than Liverpools bad element.

    Also you're using examples for an argument you can't possibly win, Rafa is a hypocrite, so is Fergie, so is Avram Grant etc. All fans have distasteful songs about another club..I could go on! Seriously you sound so bitter. It's football and unfortunately there are a lot of tossers supporting a lot of clubs. Live with it, or be very very unhappy for the rest of your supporting life.

    I can't defend any of the actions of Liverpool fans in heysel as was only 1 year old back then. Where was this about Liverpool robbing there own fans in Istanbul? What happened at Old Trafford in the cup-semi was a disgrace fair enough. I sound bitter ye too right having to listen too your so-called Johnny come lately's since 1993 banging on how they so much about football they don't have a clue about what happened with Utd before 93, singing the glory glory hunting brigade along through til now. Utd fans were so sickened, 3-0 Liverpool were down to Milan your fellow fans were dancing like the were in the final itself, after 65 mins where did they go back to their mammy's because they are just a bitter too in that case? As for Benitez been a hypocrite, the man speaks his mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    I cant understand why have such a thread, why are pool fans being singled out for their opinion.

    Although if the shoe were on the other foot I rather see Pool beat Chelsea.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    hunter164 wrote: »
    Oh yes it does.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    I can't defend any of the actions of Liverpool fans in heysel as was only 1 year old back then. Where was this about Liverpool robbing there own fans in Istanbul? What happened at Old Trafford in the cup-semi was a disgrace fair enough. I sound bitter ye too right having to listen too your so-called Johnny come lately's since 1993 banging on how they so much about football they don't have a clue about what happened with Utd before 93, singing the glory glory hunting brigade along through til now. Utd fans were so sickened, 3-0 Liverpool were down to Milan your fellow fans were dancing like the were in the final itself, after 65 mins where did they go back to their mammy's because they are just a bitter too in that case? As for Benitez been a hypocrite, the man speaks his mind.


    lol and you supporting Liverpool had nothing to do whatsoever with their history of success?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    I can't defend any of the actions of Liverpool fans in heysel as was only 1 year old back then. Where was this about Liverpool robbing there own fans in Istanbul? What happened at Old Trafford in the cup-semi was a disgrace fair enough. I sound bitter ye too right having to listen too your so-called Johnny come lately's since 1993 banging on how they so much about football they don't have a clue about what happened with Utd before 93, singing the glory glory hunting brigade along through til now. Utd fans were so sickened, 3-0 Liverpool were down to Milan your fellow fans were dancing like the were in the final itself, after 65 mins where did they go back to their mammy's because they are just a bitter too in that case? As for Benitez been a hypocrite, the man speaks his mind.

    And Liverpool fans wouldn't have done the same if it was the other way around? Of course they would. Liverpool have a glory hunting brigade too, probably the fans that started support them in the 70's and 80's. What's your point? I pity you, I would hate to be so bitter. Do you think Liverpool give a fcuk about you personally? They don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭hunter164


    I don't see a thread saying who will Barca fans be cheering for. So why are Pool fans singled out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,714 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    RasTa wrote: »
    hahah god I love it.

    Stop lying lloyd, you have no affinity for Chelsea. You just wanna see Ronaldo cry and then label him average!

    Ah you have me all figured out. Utd can win all they like but once Ronaldo gives away the ball every single time he gets it I'll have a wry smile on my face all right.

    Hope you have the next day off work - a 6:15am start the next day would be rough!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    I wont be watching it, going to the cinema with herself. The reason being that i couldnt bare to see Gary Neville, Ronaldo and Ferguson holding up the trophy. I'll have enough of it in the papers for the next few days and too many texts on my phone telling me all about it, i wont need to watch it.

    Would rather Chelsea lift it just so i dont have to listen to anyone bragging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭joe123


    Mad_Max wrote: »
    I can't understand how a fan could cheer on another team no matter what.

    If it was Chelsea - Barcelona I wouldn't be cheering either of them.

    If your a Liverpool fan surely your loyalty is to Liverpool and you wouldnt want a rival english team doing better than them? Id go with Barca there for sure.

    Regarding Man United. If Liverpool arent competing id always be for the other team unless it benifited Liverpool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    Of course it is to bear a reaction. I have given mine i hate Man U and Chelsea. Growing up here as a youngster in the 90's listening to Utd fans and even now a bunch of glory hunting fans who jumped on the bandwagon in 1993. The fact that someone mentioned Utd only spent a hundred grand on Clayton Blackmore shows the lack of knowledge of how much money Utd spent on players.

    And another thing, Utd sold a hell of a lot of players to get money for transfers.

    I actually said a few hundred grand but whatever, it's not important.

    And so what if I don't know the value of every Utd transfer?! You're nit-picking because you've no real comeback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Ah you have me all figured out. Utd can win all they like but once Ronaldo gives away the ball every single time he gets it I'll have a wry smile on my face all right.

    Hope you have the next day off work - a 6:15am start the next day would be rough!

    He probably will and all!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭5ForKeeps


    Predhead wrote: »
    And Liverpool fans wouldn't have done the same if it was the other way around? Of course they would. Liverpool have a glory hunting brigade too, probably the fans that started support them in the 70's and 80's. What's your point? I pity you, I would hate to be so bitter. Do you think Liverpool give a fcuk about you personally? They don't.

    What can i say i am so so bitter i will just kill myself...ya feckin dope, i hate Man U so feckin what..i don't know you, you have no significant influence. Does any club care for it's fans no they don't i support Liverpool like anyone supports their own club. Utd = Liverpool's firecest rivals, of course i am going to hate them and i know Utd fans feel likewise.

    As for the glory hunting brigade, i can only go on my generation i grew up with, even some of those Utd fans changed to Newcastle,Blackburn, Arsenal and now Chelsea when the weather suited them. Any fans like that who then go back a supporting Utd is what i am referring to as glory hunting. Any Utd fans i do have respect for but i still don't like the club itself. My brothers grew up during the late 60's, 70's and 80's, My first brother started supporting Liverpool in 71 so it has preceded from there in my family.

    I will leave it at that, why do i have to defend myself why i don't want Utd to win tomorrow night or hate them, as it is clear to me i am just been wound up here...


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