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Scotland's Shame

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    will be locked in under 2 minutes, my guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Bit of a misleading/unfair thread title. Not Scotland's shame really. Barely even Glasgow's. I doubt Falkirk, Gretna and Ross County fans want to be categorised the way you have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    **** sake here we go again.

    There is no excuse for what a section of our "fans" got up to last night.
    Ibrox was a disgrace also as every ned and scumbag in the city got tanked up and headed there.

    Get all the mileage you can out of it....i dont give a toss anymore.

    I got attacked last night for being an "Orange bastard". My wife got spat on from a window above the pub for trying to console me after the game and called a "fat proddy cow". My mate is sitting in A&E right now.

    Glasgow has a LOT of problems, dont kid yourself that its just Rangers fans though please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    Eirebear wrote: »
    **** sake here we go again.

    There is no excuse for what a section of our "fans" got up to last night.
    Ibrox was a disgrace also as every ned and scumbag in the city got tanked up and headed there.

    Get all the mileage you can out of it....i dont give a toss anymore.

    I got attacked last night for being an "Orange bastard". My wife got spat on from a window above the pub for trying to console me after the game and called a "fat proddy cow". My mate is sitting in A&E right now.

    Glasgow has a LOT of problems, dont kid yourself that its just Rangers fans though please.

    Very true it has a lot of deep seated problems which may never be solved.
    Thing is to say its a minority is not really true though.
    Its far more than 10% or 20% of the supporters and i include Celtic fans in this.
    Horrific scenes last night and i can imagine there will be serious reprecussions
    from UEFA and FIFA as fan violence is something that is being really
    heavily cracked down on.
    Disappointing to say the least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Bit of a misleading/unfair thread title. Not Scotland's shame really. Barely even Glasgow's. I doubt Falkirk, Gretna and Ross County fans want to be categorised the way you have it.

    They were representing Scotland in Europe, thats the way it will be viewed. If you read any of the comments from other scottish fans on youtube they are saying the same, they have heaped shame on the country.

    I'm not saying other teams dont have their problems, far from it, this just happens to be in the news today mate.

    If a clubs fans carry on like this surely the club has to take some responsibility? Regardless of who the club is !


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    IrishMike wrote: »
    and i include Celtic fans in this.

    Here we go.... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Here we go.... :rolleyes:

    can-of-worms.jpg


    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Here we go.... :rolleyes:

    Paul stop being so frickin defensive mate. You travel to Glasgow on a fairly regular basis...if you cant see the problems it has all over then your more blinkered than i first though.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Paul stop being so frickin defensive mate. You travel to Glasgow on a fairly regular basis...if you cant see the problems it has all over then your more blinkered than i first though.

    Eirebear, as much as I have sympathy for you after what happened to you last night, I'm not going to sit back and not say anything when people CONSTANTLY lump Celtic in to the mix anytime Rangers fans cause trouble.

    Of course I can see the problems, and of course I know there's idiots on both sides of the "fence". However, this thread was about Rangers fans and their behaviour last night, and immediately Celtic get dragged through the mud. Pisses me off no end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    IrishMike wrote: »
    can-of-worms.jpg


    ;)
    You keep that image on your desktop for these threads anymore do you :) How many times have you used it?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Rangers bring shame to football.theres trouble at alot of there games, theres no excuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭5ForKeeps


    Imagine what it will be like in Moscow next Wednesday. It will be the shame of English football as there will be guaranteed trouble me thinks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭justfortherecor


    The Russian Police will leather the sh*t out of any troublemakers over there though.
    Plus the prospect of spending a couple of months in some russian prison out in Siberia might put some people off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    5ForKeeps wrote: »
    Imagine what it will be like in Moscow next Wednesday. It will be the shame of English football as there will be guaranteed trouble me thinks...
    i don't think there will be, to be honest. There are a relitively small number of fans from boths sides going (neither has sold out allocation) due to the cost of the tickets, travel and accomodation. Also, fans will be getting herded from the airport to 'holding pens' for each set of fans, where there will be no alcohol available. From the holding pens they will be given a police escort straight to the stadium. So, there won't be the same level of drinking or fan interaction. I think the final in moscow could go off trouble free, while being one of the worst away trips (apart from actually being the CL final) for sight seeing and atmosphere ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    Was anyone else as shocked as I was to hear a Zenit fan was stabbed in the back INSIDE the stadium, thats frightening
    Zenit fans went into this game with the reputation, i'm afraid rangers fan come out with it, disgraceful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    IrishMike wrote: »
    and i include Celtic fans in this.

    Why? What has the behaviour of Rangers in Manchester and Ibrox got to do with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The ammount of secterian songs being sung in the stadium came across loud and clear too. I'm no fan of Scottish football in any way, shape or form but the difference between the behaviour of Celtic fans in Seville and Rangers fans in Manchester is plain for all to see. I wouldn't be surprised to see a European ban for them and to be honest, it's warranted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    I have to laugh at one on the news last night saying they spent between £4000 and £5000 to go to Manchester from Glasgow with out tickets just to watch a game on a big screen.

    I mean i was in Manchester for Paddy's weekend and went up to the Liverpool Reading game and did not spend more than say £300 on match tickets flights hotel room and lots of drink.

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Tauren wrote: »
    i don't think there will be, to be honest. There are a relitively small number of fans from boths sides going (neither has sold out allocation) due to the cost of the tickets, travel and accomodation. Also, fans will be getting herded from the airport to 'holding pens' for each set of fans, where there will be no alcohol available. From the holding pens they will be given a police escort straight to the stadium. So, there won't be the same level of drinking or fan interaction. I think the final in moscow could go off trouble free, while being one of the worst away trips (apart from actually being the CL final) for sight seeing and atmosphere ever.
    Yeah the complete zero tolerance of the Moscow Police should keep even the bravest of thugs on a low profile, and as its UK clubs all the way over in Moscow, any violence as such wont be as well reported ala Istanbul,Athens,recent world cups.


    Re:Last nights problems, I know its sad that people cant control themselves with beer etc, but you have to question the police letting people like Tesco sell beer from 7am in the morning? Note how World Cups etc serve mostly "festival beer" (less strength) to mass crowds pre-games.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    I have to laugh at one on the news last night saying they spent between £4000 and £5000 to go to Manchester from Glasgow with out tickets just to watch a game on a big screen.

    I mean i was in Manchester for Paddy's weekend and went up to the Liverpool Reading game and did not spend more than say £300 on match tickets flights hotel room and lots of drink.

    I saw that, I can't believe anyone would spend that much to watch the game on a screen. TBH, I wouldn't bother travelling unless I had a ticket to the game, unless it was somewhere like Spain and summer where you could make a bit of a break out of it. Travelling to watch a game in Manchester on a screen ain't my idea of fun, even if it was free.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    PauloMN wrote: »
    I Travelling to watch a game in Manchester on a screen ain't my idea of fun, even if it was free.

    Or not watch it as the case may be :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭grahamo


    Surely the organisers must take some responsibility. They seem to have underestimated the number of fans that would travel. Packed them into an overcrowded fan park, fed them beer all day and 5 mins before kick off tell them there's technical problems with the big screen and the match won't be shown. :eek:
    They should have told everyone earlier to give them time to disperse and find somewhere else to watch it. Only UEFA could organise a shambles like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions


    In private, Manchester council wanted "anyone but rangers", publicly they welcomed both teams with open arms and said it was a carnival atmosphere yesterday afternoon. I just knew when I saw the red hand o ulster flags aboot the place there would be strife from the few. There are many many honest bluenoses that dont need this crap.

    Then the tv played up.

    Every team has some element of erse holes, but the rangers seem to have their fair share. perhaps the club should contribute to the clean up.

    There will be no big screen in Manchester for the Champ league final due to what happened yesterday a source from the council said. Lets face it, that would probably have passed off without incident.
    Time for action from Uefa me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    One policeman got his earpiece implanted in his head, one had his teeth knocked out and a police dog even got it, ffs.

    I still cant get over the fact that is being portrayed as a minority.

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/08/05/15/SOCCER_Rangers_Trouble_Lead.html&TEAMHD=soccer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,595 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    grahamo wrote: »
    Surely the organisers must take some responsibility. They seem to have underestimated the number of fans that would travel. Packed them into an overcrowded fan park, fed them beer all day and 5 mins before kick off tell them there's technical problems with the big screen and the match won't be shown. :eek:
    They should have told everyone earlier to give them time to disperse and find somewhere else to watch it. Only UEFA could organise a shambles like that.

    UEFA hardly had anything to do with the big screen, had they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭grahamo


    Boggles wrote: »
    UEFA hardly had anything to do with the big screen, had they?

    No. But I doubt very much that the big screen had 'Technical Problems'. The organisers obviously saw how full the fan park was and decided if Rangers/Zenit scored there would be bedlam. Without thinking of the consequences they pulled the plug resulting in even more trouble!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Sizzler wrote: »

    Considering there was over 100,000 people there....yes it is a minority.

    Boggles wrote: »
    UEFA hardly had anything to do with the big screen, had they?

    Nope, it was GMC who organised it.


    I would like to personally apologise to the people of Manchester on behalf of the tens of thousands of Bears who went down there and behaved themselves.
    The scum element in our support has been a bit of a topic for many of us during this campaign, as many people are fed up going to a home european game and being seated beside some sort of degenerate.
    Rangers FC must do something about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Video here of mob attack on lone copper. Nasty...:mad:

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1316114,00.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    maybe the fans without tickets should have stayed at hime like they were told to.


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