sit ups

melikedonunts

can someone please explain how you do the proper situps you do in your pt,
is it alright for some one to hold your ankles while you do them?

minidazzler

http://www.military.ie/careers/officer/situps.wmv

Thats them. Straight from the Horses Mouth.

melikedonunts

nobody holding your ankles,jeez ill have a hard time at that then

minidazzler

Same here but when I do it myself I always stick them under a couch or Bench.

I would think it just takes Practise.

melikedonunts

same here i always put them under the sofa,just tried to do them with no support,couldnt lift meself of the ground LOL

melikedonunts

surely your aloud to use some sort of weight,they stand on your toes while counting?has any one who has done the pt had this done?seems imposible to do them this way,but were theirs aw ill theirs way!alot of work to be done so

tribulus

I actually find them far easier doing it the way it is in the video It's a shorter range of motion the way your hands only have to reach your knees, I think most people probably use more hip flexor (easy to do when your feet are anchored) than abdominals, just a thought.

concussion

You cannot have assistance but you can grip the edge of the mat with your heels. You cannot raise your feet from the ground, when this is happening you're pretty much spent anyway.
A wallchart detailing the requirements for the ITs (not fitness test for entry) can be found here http://www.1bderdf.com/ftchart.pdf
Is this for entrance to the DF or for the IT's?

melikedonunts

the entrance test!

concussion

Not so bad so, minimum twenty of each to worry about and a shorter run.

NoQuarter

tribulus wrote: »

I think most people probably use more hip flexor (easy to do when your feet are anchored) than abdominals, just a thought.

I know this was the case with the old way of doing the sit-ups. Even some of the training instructors agreed, after the fitness test your tighe's would be burning rather than your abs! :eek:

melikedonunts

whent down to the gym today and asked for some advice on how to do them,they really couldnt beleive that this is the way your tested,i was told doing them this way without some sort of support was dangerous!:D

Pure Cork

melikedonunts wrote: »

whent down to the gym today and asked for some advice on how to do them,they really couldnt beleive that this is the way your tested,i was told doing them this way without some sort of support was dangerous!:D

Ah they're not too bad. I think they're easier to do with hands beside your legs rather than on them but if that's the way they want it done so be it. Practice makes perfect.

kermit_ie

Doing them the old way was dangerous, this way is fine.

Pure Cork

kermit_ie wrote: »

Doing them the old way was dangerous, this way is fine.

How are the different types dangerous?

minidazzler

Pure Cork wrote: »

How are the different types dangerous?

Because you can injure your spine by doing Sit-ups as alot of people don't use the Abs to do Sit-ups properly and they put alot of Pressure on their spine.

melikedonunts

can someone please explain why on earth the cant be done like this
http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBS_en___IE231&q=army%20sit%20ups&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#

can manage to them like this no problem,around 35 in a minute yet cant do 1 bloody "defence forces sit up"

kowloon

minidazzler wrote: »

Because you can injure your spine by doing Sit-ups as alot of people don't use the Abs to do Sit-ups properly and they put alot of Pressure on their spine.

I can't do more than a handful of situps before my back gives up, wonder if that was part of the problem.

minidazzler

kowloon wrote: »

I can't do more than a handful of situps before my back gives up, wonder if that was part of the problem.

Do you do Proper stretches before starting them?

That is a problem I have seen in most people. Their Back Muscles cant handle the cold start.

(I am not great at them but I could scrap 30 if I was able to secure my feet.

kermit_ie

You don't use you back at all this new way. If you want to practice, do squats.

kowloon

No warm up TBH but I could do quite a lot back in the day when I was trying to get that six pack that impressed the ladies so much. :pac:
My back is well and truly screwed now, the situps may have contributed to the problem but the motorcycle accidents, neck injury and bad posture could also account for it .

melikedonunts

so its definately noboady holding your feet,if they do it in the us and every other army for entrance tests,why on earth cant we?

minidazzler

Typical Army Logic really. (Even though you do use your Abs More when nobody holds your feet.) Otherwise you will use your Legs for the situps.

GioSosStavros

Hands on temples - knees bent. Bring your elbows to your knees and repeat a million times.

Then and only then will you have a chance of having abs like mine - washboard FTW baby!