Anybody any experience taking a lot of $$ to vegas?

allinstevie

K, so wsop is around the corner, going in 2 weeks. Want to know if theres gonna be questions asked when i arrive in US Customs with a **** load of $$. I know u can take $10k without any problems, but will there be a problem is you are taking more than that ???

Heisenberg.

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zuutroy

I guess you could get your bank to make a $ draft and the cage will cash it for you.

Gillybean72

The Scientist wrote: »

Please forward the following details for an accurate answer:
-Where & when your leaving from?
-Flight Number?
-What you look like?
-What colour bag the money will be in...

lol!

lee_arama

There's a certain amount you can travel with without needing to declare, and it may well be 10K. That's for internal flights mind you. It's not like Customs can charge you on it mind. Would be kinda harsh having to pay VAT on bringing money across state lines.

Don't mention the WSOP on any paperwork going in either. Poor Joe Hachem...he'd been warned and all but he just wouldn't listen...

pierce hard

lee_arama wrote: »

There's a certain amount you can travel with without needing to declare, and it may well be 10K. That's for internal flights mind you. It's not like Customs can charge you on it mind. Would be kinda harsh having to pay VAT on bringing money across state lines.

Don't mention the WSOP on any paperwork going in either. Poor Joe Hachem...he'd been warned and all but he just wouldn't listen...

what happened to him?

lee_arama

He listed himself as a Poker Pro when he came into the country instead of Tourist. When he won the WSOP he got hit for income taxaments.

Some tool eh?

Sirtoyou

Would lodging the cash into the credit card be an option here?

pierce hard

lee_arama wrote: »

He listed himself as a Poker Pro when he came into the country instead of Tourist. When he won the WSOP he got hit for income taxaments.

Some tool eh?

lol, that must have cost him a million or so.

5starpool

Sirtoyou wrote: »

Would lodging the cash into the credit card be an option here?

Indeed it is. However, anyone doing this should be aware that the credit card company (or your bank) will not cover money you have loaded onto your card in the event of theft/fraud. They will only cover the money they loan you on the card.

There aren't charges (depending on your card) when your account is positive on your credit card, except machine charges.

nicnicnic

allinstevie wrote: »

K, so wsop is around the corner, going in 2 weeks. Want to know if theres gonna be questions asked when i arrive in US Customs with a **** load of $$. I know u can take $10k without any problems, but will there be a problem is you are taking more than that ???

you can take more then 10k but have to declare the excess, generally transferring monies to the main cage of a major casino is the recommended best option

Ollieboy

if you take more the 10k they can take the excess off you. If you declare it I dont think there is a problem, but than they'll ask you what the money is for and if you say poker, you wont get in.

As Nicky says, send it direct to a cage at your hotel and withdraw it from there.

Bandara

my brother took close to $40k into the States (California) late last year to buy a classic car, declared it and had no problems whatsoever. Might be a good reson to give them as to why you have so much cash with you..

pgodkin

There was a thread on here a about 3 weeks ago about goin to vegas and giving advise, u know the one about no riding the hookers and doin coke!!


but there was i thing in it that you can ring up one of the casino's and just get a wire transfer to them and they will hold all your money in there cage for the duration, dont know if they'll do the same when your heading back though

have a search should be only a couple of pages down

Philip

5starpool

When you are coming back, you can't bring anymore than €10k without declaring it either legally. Not sure if you are flying into UK as first point of EU entry though. Not many people think about it from that end though.

valor

Wire it, its so much easier

MrPillowTalk

Make sure you have your story straight re your profession etc, if you say you are a poker player they wont let you over as technically you will need a working visa. But dont say you are a student on holiday and then have thousands of $ on you or they will know your lying and just refuse you.

Fly through Dublin if your worried about it, at least then you do immigration here and if they boot you you wont be faced with two fruitless plane rides.

Dont imagine it never happens either a few people I know have been refused access. Wiring to the casino is the best option really.

FlushPoker.ie

Best thing I found was contacting your Casino Stevie and dropping it there and withdrawing on arrivial, valid point tho is coming back with sh*t load, provided you dont get broke in the donkaments Other than that credit card and get your bank to set your max limit as unlimited withdrawel and see what kind of deal they will do with withdrawl charges...they will do a deal for ya!

valor

If you have a ton of cash you can just say you are going to Vegas to gamble like a madman and not mention poker at all, I cant imagine they will find a problem with that, thats what Vegas is for after all

Goodluck2me

Ollieboy wrote: »

if you say poker, you wont get in. .

why is that ollie?

jayhawk

This was my experience recently, quoting a mate in the U.S. (below):

I presume everyone knows that there's a lot of juice involved drawing cash from a credit card, not to mention the foreign exchange fiddle if your card is not native.

1. I spoke again to the (casino/hotel) and the woman explained in more detail how the "front money" works this time. Something she did not do the last time I spoke with her. The first time I thought you could just draw cash against it. Turns out you can only draw credit against it. So you couldn't get the cash you would need. I asked what works to just walk up and get cash. She said travelers checks.

So I went to my bank. They don't sell them anymore, as apparently most banks don't these days. The lady there suggested a travel debit card, which the banks use to replace travelers checks.

So, I called the casino and they said they had ATMs all over the place to get cash using credit and debit cards. Plus you can take the card to a commercial bank and get money against it.

2. I'm getting stymied at every turn here. The bank lady called yesterday and upon further reading of the rules on the travel debit cards, there are restrictions on how much you can get in cash advances that would make it pointless to send you one of those. She did think that they could wire money to a local Western Union office in Las Vegas that you could then pick up. I suspect that might be an expensive way to do it. But I'll have her check further on that.

I was thinking that as a last resort I could overnight enough cash to get you into the tournament via FedEx or UPS and then just bring the rest. It's hard to believe it's so hard to move some cash into Vegas to gamble on.

5starpool

I have never got charged except the ATM charges for withdrawing money I had loaded onto my credit card. BOI Visa btw. I think AIB had a charge on theirs a few years back at least, but I have used my BOI all over the place and never got charged.

Bandara

jayhawk wrote: »

This was my experience recently, quoting a mate in the U.S. (below):

I presume everyone knows that there's a lot of juice involved drawing cash from a credit card, not to mention the foreign exchange fiddle if your card is not native.

€250 fee for using Western Union for $10000

RoundTower

Ollieboy wrote: »

if you say poker, you wont get in.

of course you will, this post is retarded and not helpful.

don't say you are a professional poker player or a journalist or someone else who is going to Vegas for business rather than player, but you aren't getting stopped because you might be playing poker rather than roulette.

carrigeen

when I checked last year the following were the answers

wiring (mgm) if you wire over you can only use on the tables there and will be relodged whne you are finished gambling. (I thought I read sowhere else it may be different for RIO or Bellagio but not sure) but wasnt an option as far as I was concerned

loading the credit card , problem here when you withdraw over there they charge like 6% so to take out 10k costs $600 , not great value.

have no cheap solution unfortunately

Theresalwaysone

Strap it to your body.

Saw this in a documentary recently. Bout professional Blackjack Players, they strapped it to their bodies. Was Pretty cool. They took in like, 200,000 or something all strapped to their bodies.

TheRock

If you luckbox your way to a serious cash. How do you get the money back??

Will the casino wire it to your bank?

fixer

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Strap it to your body.

Saw this in a documentary recently. Bout professional Blackjack Players, they strapped it to their bodies. Was Pretty cool. They took in like, 200,000 or something all strapped to their bodies.

That was the movie "21" based on the book Bringing Down The House by Ben Mezrich. The MIT blackjack team was evading taxes, hence their need to conceal the cash movements.

RoundTower

TheRock wrote: »

If you luckbox your way to a serious cash. How do you get the money back??

Will the casino wire it to your back?

this is how i originally read the question

but the answer is yes

Theresalwaysone

fixer wrote: »

That was the movie "21" based on the book Bringing Down The House by Ben Mezrich. The MIT blackjack team was evading taxes, hence their need to conceal the cash movements.

Woooah.... really?

thechamp87

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Woooah.... really?

Yes, it's true.

Theresalwaysone

thechamp87 wrote: »

Yes, it's true.

Do some study

Daithio

The main two things the immigration officers want to ensure is that you're not going over there with the intention of living there, and that you're not a drug trafficker.

If you have your story straight and tell the truth you'll be fine. Print off the schedule of the WSOP and explain to the immigration officer that is why you have so much money. Just don't expect him to believe you're a tennis coach that carries around 30k or whatever. Tell them that you're being staked if you don't want to say you won it yourself, but I don't think that would be a problem. Just don't use the word "professional" poker player.

Whatever you do though, DO NOT try to bring it over and not declare it. If it's found you won't be let into the country, they'll take it off you, and will most likely start some sort of criminal investigation.

Also don't put it on your credit card with the intention of withdrawing it once you're over there, the charges are absolutely criminal. Wiring it over to the cage is your other option, but you'd want to get working on that soon as those transfers can take up to a few weeks. Also if you're doing that be sure to exchange it with your bank, ie wire over dollars not euros, but that's fairly obvious.

Coming back is not a problem, just tell them the truth. If it's any sizeable amount of money get a letter from the casino saying you won it there. As you know I'm sure, you don't have to pay tax on gambling winnings in Ireland, so there's no issue there.

I'm assuming you'll be playing alot of tourneys stevie, so when you get there you should go straight to the Bellagio with your passport and get them to sort out an ITIN number for you. The cage should do it no problem. Just write it down in your passport then or whatever and it means that you won't have half your tourney winnings withheld for tax purposes.

Also, if for any reason you're worried that you might not be admitted to the States, for past visa infringements or whatever, make sure that you fly out of Dublin. It's the only city in the world where U.S. immigration is processed prior to departure. That way you find out if you're gonna be refused before you leave, and can avoid the two 8 hour flights and possible sojourn in a prison cell.

ArmaniJeanss

5starpool wrote: »

I have never got charged except the ATM charges for withdrawing money I had loaded onto my credit card.

Daithio wrote: »

Also don't put it on your credit card with the intention of withdrawing it once you're over there, the charges are absolutely criminal.

I only made one cc withdrawal and there was no excessive charge, just the standard ATM charge ($3 on $800 i think). What do you mean by 'absolutely criminal'.

Daithio

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I only made one cc withdrawal and there was no excessive charge, just the standard ATM charge ($3 on $800 i think). What do you mean by 'absolutely criminal'.

If you want to withdraw anything over the daily withdrawal limit of an ATM (which is quite likely for a poker player as that's only around $800), then you have to go through the cage and they charge between 3 and 5% for those transactions. So if you're withdrawing $10k to play the M.E. that's 400 or so gone. Pretty huge.

NickyOD

Just stuff it down your pants ffs.

THEIRISHMOB

You can get a lot of cash on your person in €500 notes.
After all this is what they are for.
You probably need to order them in the bank usually a week in advance.

you wont even see €50,000 in €500 notes

bops

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

You can get a lot of cash on your person in €500 notes.
After all this is what they are for.
You probably need to order them in the bank usually a week in advance.

you wont even see €50,000 in €500 notes

remember the scandi 12 yr old with the 50k shoved in his jeans pocket at the supersat?? lol i wonder did he survive the night??

fixer

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

You can get a lot of cash on your person in €500 notes.
After all this is what they are for.
You probably need to order them in the bank usually a week in advance.

you wont even see €50,000 in €500 notes

I'd venture to guess it'd be a bit harder to get a US business (bank or casino) to accept a €500 note. They don't see enough of them and they would be suspect then as counterfeits.

THEIRISHMOB

fixer wrote: »

I'd venture to guess it'd be a bit harder to get a US business (bank or casino) to accept a €500 note. They don't see enough of them and they would be suspect then as counterfeits.

Ahhhhhh a bank would check them. and it is Vegas

MrPillowTalk

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

Ahhhhhh a bank would check them. and it is Vegas

I had serous trouble getting cash changed in vegas so I would look into it prior to going if I were you.

Kobraki

NickyOD wrote: »

Just stuff it down your pants ffs.

Thats your answer to everything!

joe o neill

i had no problem last year.. make sure you declare it.. say you are going to gamble(not play poker) bring as much as you want.. coming back is also no prob once you hold an irish or uk passport you can win as much as you want without paying tax...

FlushPoker.ie

Stevie was just thinkn, ship it to whoever on Stars or FT that you know in USA and get it off them when you get there...Bink, Problem solved!

NickyOD

Kobraki wrote: »

Thats your answer to everything!

So true.

davidgti

MrPillowTalk wrote: »

I had serous trouble getting cash changed in vegas so I would look into it prior to going if I were you.

always something i wanted to know tx

5pin5

i declared it in dublin was stoped in the states told them was going to vegas to play the wsop they just said best of luck and waved me through

Goodluck2me

NickyOD wrote: »

Just stuff it down your pants ffs.

you wouldn't get much in like that.

Gillybean72

goodluck2me wrote: »

you wouldn't get much in like that.

That would depend on the size of pants and how much room you have down there...

5starpool