When is a lift mandatory?

PDD

Hi Folks,

I was out with a friend of mine over the weekend who told me that building regulations meant that any building above 3 stories had a requirement for a lift. Does anyone know if this is true?

The reason I ask is that my new apartment (18months old) is on the 3rd floor yet no lift so Im wondering how the builder got away with it.

Dave

sydthebeat

the storey floor area has to exceed 200 sq in a 3 storey building to require a lift.

1.12 A suitable passenger lift should be provided
to any storey above or below the entrance storey
which:
(a) in a two storey building has a nett floor area
per floor of more than 280 m2; or
(b) in a building of more than two storeys has a
nett floor area per floor of more than 200 m2.
In calculating nett floor area, the areas of all parts of
a storey which can be reached from the same
entrance to the storey (including any flats) should be
added together, whether they are in more than one
part of the same storey or used for different
purposes. The area of any vertical circulation,
common sanitary accommodation and maintenance
areas in the storey should not be included.
A suitable passenger lift should also be provided to
each storey above or below the entrance storey
which provides access to flats when,
(i) the total number of flats accessed from all
such storeys exceeds eight, or
(ii) the number of flats with entrance levels more

than 10 m above the level of

the main

entrance to the building exceeds two.

PDD

Hey Syd,

Cheers for the info, now I know why he only put on apartments on the top floor :-P

Dave

ruskin

this thread has helped me too. Ive another question though... what is the minimum size of a passenger lift according to the building regs?

Slig

1100 x 1400 car size 6/8 person lift 800Kg
Shaft size is approx. 1.8 x 2 internally (depending on manufacturer)
there will also need to be a pit 1.2m below FFL and 3.8M headroom from the FFL on the top floor to the bottom of the roof of the shaft/lifting beam. These are all fairly generic dimensions and different manufacturers will need different specifications

Mellor

Slig wrote: »

1100 x 1400 car size 6/8 person lift 800Kg
Shaft size is approx. 1.8 x 2 internally (depending on manufacturer)
there will also need to be a pit 1.2m below FFL and 3.8M headroom from the FFL on the top floor to the bottom of the roof of the shaft/lifting beam. These are all fairly generic dimensions and different manufacturers will need different specifications

I just highlight the above in that only the size internally is a requirement. The rest is roughly the the dims it would be. (I'm sure you are aware of this Slig, but incase anyone reading it thinks a pit or headroom is a reg.

Lifts are available in slimmer dimensions, almost zero headroom, pit, or side space for counter weight, just maybe not all in the one model.

the other requirements of a lift are;

there should be a clear landing at least 1.5 m
wide and at least 1.5 m long in front of every
entrance to the lift;
(b) the lift door or doors should have a clear
opening width of at least 800 mm;
(c) the width of the lift car should be at least
1.1 m and the length at least 1.4 m;
(d) the controls in the lift car and the controls at
each landing should be at a height of not less
than 900 mm and not more than 1.2 m above
the car floor and the landing respectively.
Controls should not be located in corners and
should be at least 500 mm from any wall or
projecting surface;
(e) suitable tactile indicators to indicate floor
numbers should be provided on or adjacent to
lift buttons within the lift car and on the
landing;
(f) the lift car should provide both visual and
voice indication of the floor reached if it
serves more than three floors;
(g) lift doors should stay open for at least eight
seconds;
(h) a half-length mirror should be installed to
provide a wheelchair user with a rearview to
safely reverse out from the liftcar.

Slig

sorry if I didnt clarify that Mellor, you are of course correct.
I just put in the other information as I have been caught out with this before when a PP drawing goes to construction stage and headroom and pit were not previously considered

Mellor

Slig wrote: »

sorry if I didnt clarify that Mellor, you are of course correct.
I just put in the other information as I have been caught out with this before when a PP drawing goes to construction stage and headroom and pit were not previously considered

Your other info was fine, good to flag it for others