Are i-pods in live poker +EV or -EV ???

The Al Lad

As the title suggests ???

I some times use my i-pod but find it starts annoying me after a while, so do you think they are +EV or -EV ???

phantom_lord

pretty sure they're -ev

bops

depends

-EV in relation to reads/tells etc and you may miss something like a verbal "allinbaby" which may be costly :eek:

+EV if it keeps you from going insane with boredom/stops you hearing tilt-inducing retards at the table :mad:

Slash/ED

Depends on who's at the table in terms of information they may give away and, mainly, how irritating that are. Around certain people in the jackpot playing without an ipod is sevearly -ev.

mdwexford

+ev because tossers dont try and talk to you when you have one on

davidgti

mdwexford wrote: »

+ev because dont tossers dont try and talk to you when you have one on

well said mick

eagle eye

+ev for me, like them for the first day of long tourneys. Although it cost me in a tourney one time as I could not see that utg who was blocked from my view by dealer had raised and I with a shortish stack shove from the button, needless to say I was dead in the water.

Goodluck2me

- ev you miss too much information, and there is plenty on offer. I think sunglasses are +ev though. I must start wearing them.

eagle eye

goodluck2me wrote: »

- ev you miss too much information, and there is plenty on offer. I think sunglasses are +ev though. I must start wearing them.

I find that I pick up more information when I have an ipod as I am less distracted by what is going on around me.

Totally agree about the sunglasses, must start wearing them again myself.

RoundTower

lol +ev -ev donkaments

the whole year inn

crap music + ev sh1t music - ev.

Its up to you i would wear when small pots are on but still be able to hear whats goinng on def lose them when blinds/antes get bigger,never cash live ! online different

its up to you so just find out how you feel about it!

LuckyLloyd

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Ollieboy

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Put the headphones on and turn the music off. No - one knows your listening and just leave you in peace / while you get all of the information on offer. Best of both worlds.

Yep I do this sometimes too.

I use my Ipod to set my mood, i.e. fast music if in aggressive mood or relaxing music if I want settle into my game etc.

I think using a Ipod in anything less than a long structure tourney is a waste of time, it does slow your game down. In CHL with 25 min blinds and antes, this guy had the hood, Ipod and Sunglasses, now kop on. He took them out each time he played a hand to see what action had happen, such a waste of blind time.

Generally I dont use the Ipod in the first hour of a game, as everyone is talkactive and gives loads of info about there game and standard etc.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Put the headphones on and turn the music off. No - one knows your listening and just leave you in peace / while you get all of the information on offer. Best of both worlds.

Darn i thought i was the only one who came up with this revolutionary idea

bohsman

Ill often listen to the same album or whatever over and over again, it turns into background noise that keeps me focused, think I listened to Abbey Road around 50 times in Drogheda last year.

Sunglasses dont do it for me, I miss more than and feel uncomfortable more than without them, I think not wearing them helps put you across as more calm and confident at the table than someone hiding behind a hoodie ipod and sunglasses.

bohsman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Put the headphones on and turn the music off. No - one knows your listening and just leave you in peace / while you get all of the information on offer. Best of both worlds.

Im sure that you cant hear a word even with no music playing with those massive head phones.

El Stuntman

bohsman wrote: »

Im sure that you cant hear a word even with no music playing with those massive head phones.

first time I ever met Lloyd I said 'wow, you must have massive ears!'

he looked suspicious, lifted up one saucer-shaped earphone and said 'what?' :eek:

I said "El Stuntman's the name, nice to meet you'

LuckyLloyd

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YULETIRED

I sometimes listen to the Monkees album when playing poker , it relaxes me and Mickey Dolenzs voice reminds me of summer

...hey hey with the monkeys...


I heart primates.

El Stuntman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

then you absolutely owned me an hour or so later when you offered to show me one card for €25. Sick, sick man.

ah those good old innocent days

it would be €200 now, that's inflation for ya

califano

i dont deliberately listen to music.

5starpool

I agree with Bops. I only listen to music when there are annoying tards at my table or very nearby. Otherwise I rarely do. I only wear sunglasses when I am playing outside, in the sun. It has not happened yet though.

DeadParrot

I started to use my mp3 when playing but it all went horribly wrong listening to salt and pepper telling me to 'push it' all the time.
Seriously, I think they are fine for a long structured tournament but not for lets say a satellite where you need to actually pay attention as the variables change more fluidly.

Oh and for some reason Sunglasses tilt the **** outta me, I find it hard to concentrate when someone is staring me out of it wearing sunglasses, well I think he's staring me out of it all the time anyway.....
damn paranoia.

doke

Almost always -EV I reckon, unless you're one of those people who never picks up verbal tells anyway.

The only possible exception is if there a noisy annoyance at the table in danger of tilting you. I don't think I'd ever tilt in those circumstances so I've never bothered.

At the second last table in the European Deepstack, Graham Clarkson suddenly pulled them out and, worse, starting humming along with whatever crap he was listening to in a horrible high pitched castrato. I think he was trying to tilt the rest of us myself

I also love the number of non-stop talkers who try wearing them. They put them on, then they think of something really funny the rest of us have to hear, they can't hear their own voice so they boom it out so everyone in the postal code can hear it, then someone responds so they take the headphones off, guy has to repeat, bit of banter for a few minutes, then they put the headphones back on for 15 seconds or so until they think of the next funny.

Annoyance: people who wear them and tune out so they don't know it's their turn to act. We need a new Internet rule for these people: no response in thirty seconds and you're folded. Live is slow enough without some musical afficianado slowing every hand down.

I don't see the "staves off boredom" thing at all. I'm never bored at the poker table: there's always something to watch, and the hands you're not in are the ones where you pick up the most useful information. Then again, I didn't get bored running around a 2K loop non-stop for 24 hours so I'm probably not typical.

ZZR1100

DeadParrot wrote: »

Oh and for some reason Sunglasses tilt the **** outta me, I find it hard to concentrate when someone is staring me out of it wearing sunglasses, well I think he's staring me out of it all the time anyway.....
damn paranoia.

i use the mp3 player early in a tourney or if an annoying sod appears.
sideshow used really annoy me, but now i really enjoy him being at my table

like u i sometimes get parnoid if some1 else is wearing sunglasses on the table and will wear them aswell. i find u can pick up a lot more with them but would prefer a ban tbh

5starpool

doke wrote: »

Then again, I didn't get bored running around a 2K loop non-stop for 24 hours so I'm probably not typical.

You must get a bit confused when someone asks you how have you been running lately. Not an issue for most of us poker players.

On a side note, I've read some of your blog and you are nuts.

doke

5starpool wrote: »

you are nuts.

Thank you, I resemble that remark.:)

I try to keep it hidden, but the truth eventually gets out, like my culchieness, much to the dismay of my daughter ("I know you're from the country, Dad, but you don't have to tell anyone").

Mr.Plough

They would stop me from spewing off with some junk hands as live is so slow and boring. sunglasses are just ghey

max_power

Mr.Plough wrote: »

sunglasses are just ghey

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smurph

doke wrote: »

. Then again, I didn't get bored running around a 2K loop non-stop for 24 hours so I'm probably not typical.

absolute understatement of the year:):)

I em can't really think of any, I mean any other poker player that is a long distance runner, nop, absolutely none. In fact you are the only person I know who does does this type of running.

The only time I would say the majority of poker players run is
A. when the finger food arrives
B. when the bar is closing

LuckyLloyd

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KashMachine

inverse relationship to volume level would be a good rule of thumb imo

mormank

they are definitely +EV when you are at the table!!! :pac::pac::pac: