'Shadow people'- anyone ever seen one?

ShellBell1

Has anyone ever seen one of these so-called 'shadow people'? And I don't mean while you were on some sort of hallucinogenic or whatever! :rolleyes: I'm deadly serious.

I saw one over a year ago near the driveway of my friend's house late one night. About 15 feet away from me. A lilac-grey figure, androgynous, very tall, rail thin, and it seemed to come out of thin air running extremely fast. It briefly turned its head to look at me while it was moving and I saw that it had no facial features whatsoever, before it literally disappeared. Gave me the ****ing chills. :eek:

Haven't seen anything like it (or, indeed, anything at all), since. Any thoughts on this? I'm not taking the piss and I wasn't 'on' anything that night. Sober as ****, normal mindset, whatever.

Caoimhín

Yeah right Missus Gin and tonic.

RossKavanagh18

Dont be so skeptical I saw one too. Two months ago I was walking past a disused mill beside where I live and saw a 'shadow' man walk through the closed gates.

Caoimhín

A jaysus lads,
At best an optical illusion.
At worst a creation of an overactive imagination or tired mind.

Ghosts/Shadow men/fairies/Gods/Devils/Angles/Demons NO NOT EXIST.

RossKavanagh18

once again, dont be so skeptical. . you wont know until you experience it.

Simi

Ya I seen 'em. That is to say I saw them. Am might be time to get the ould noggin checked tbh.

ShellBell1

No, there was no optical illusion (my eyesight is fine, thanks), or Gin&Tonic involved (I don't even drink). Fully awake walking towards the house. As Ross said, if you see it for yourself, you won't be so quick to judge others so harshly.

Caoimhín

ShellBell1 wrote: »

No, there was no optical illusion (my eyesight is fine, thanks), or Gin&Tonic involved (I don't even drink). Fully awake walking towards the house. As Ross said, if you see it for yourself, you won't be so quick to judge others so harshly.

Im not judging you. Simply pointing out that if you are going around the place seeing all sorts of strange supernatural creatures then maybe its time to have the head looked at.
Dont you think?

ShellBell1

And Caoibhin, I can't even understand why you're in this particular forum if you think all of this is b*llsh*t. It's akin to a priest participating in a game of online poker.

Oryx

caoibhinn. Your posts have been reported. Sorry mate, but your supposed to be a bit more tolerant. Charter is that way. ^

MizzLolly

caoibhin wrote: »

A jaysus lads,
At best an optical illusion.
At worst a creation of an overactive imagination or tired mind.

Ghosts/Shadow men/fairies/Gods/Devils/Angles/Demons NO NOT EXIST.

Then why are you lurking about in this paranormal forum??




Edit: Nevermind, it's already been asked!

ShellBell1

"..creatures"? I never said it in the plural sense. I saw ONE figure. ONE and one ONLY.

Who the hell do you think you are suggesting to me I get my head checked? Bugger off.

Oryx

ShellBell1 wrote: »

"..creatures"? I never said it in the plural sense. I saw ONE figure. ONE and one ONLY.

Who the hell do you think you are suggesting to me I get my head checked? Bugger off.

Ignore it.:)

Caoimhín

ShellBell1 wrote: »

And Caoibhin, I can't even understand why you're in this particular forum if you think all of this is b*llsh*t. It's akin to a priest participating in a game of online poker.

You asked the question. Maybe you should have qualified it by requesting only people who would believe you should respond.

MizzLolly

ShellBell1 wrote: »

"..creatures"? I never said it in the plural sense. I saw ONE figure. ONE and one ONLY.

Who the hell do you think you are suggesting to me I get my head checked? Bugger off.

Relax. There's nothing wrong with you at all. I've seen things too though I am a little confused regarding the term, 'shadow people'. Do you mean ghosts? Or am I a little slow?

Don't worry, you don't need your head checked

MizzLolly

caoibhin wrote: »

You asked the question. Maybe you should have qualified it by requesting only people who would believe you should respond.

Eh... you are in the paranormal forum...

Caoimhín

MizzLolly wrote: »

Eh... you are in the paranormal forum...

Ive just read the charter and i cant see where it says that one must believe in the paranormal to contribute.

ShellBell1

Yeah, Caoibhin, I should have initially specified, "No jaded naysayers need reply".

ShellBell1

I used the term 'shadow people' because I was reading up on this stuff afterwards and the description of them by other witnesses matched what I saw.

Yeah, I suppose it's just like a ghost really. Not like goddamn Casper or whatever (!), but you know what's alive and well and what isn't (i.e. that shadow thing I saw). Anyway, if you Google 'shadow people', various results will come up.

MizzLolly

caoibhin wrote: »

Ive just read the charter and i cant see where it says that one must believe in the paranormal to contribute.

Yes but can you at least respect that there are many believers in here who recieve peace of mind and solace from believing in the paranormal?

What you are doing is similar to going into the Christianity forum and shouting out "God isn't real, na na na na na!". It is a tad disrespectful and dare I say... trollish! :eek:

MizzLolly

ShellBell1 wrote: »

I used the term 'shadow people' because I was reading up on this stuff afterwards and the description of them by other witnesses matched what I saw.

Yeah, I suppose it's just like a ghost really. Not like goddamn Casper or whatever (!), but you know what's alive and well and what isn't (i.e. that shadow thing I saw). Anyway, if you Google 'shadow people', various results will come up.

Ah okay. Of course you are not the only person to see a spirit/shadow person/ghost ..etc..

Just read the Ghosts: What are your experiences?.. thread!

ShellBell1

Yeah, MizzLolly, I realise I'm not alone in this sort of thing. I haven't looked at that thread you suggested (but will do), but I know from talking to other people before. Some I believed, some I didn't. Bear in mind I don't encounter weird stuff on a regular basis. Only once in a blue moon, usually when I least expect it.

Well, there will always be people who will call you a delusional nutcase if you report seeing intangible things, but that's life. F*ck it.

6th

I was in a room with 10 other people (mostly Boardsies) and most of those ten saw "something" moving about the room. Some even saw it approach me in a chair and put its hands around my neck.

Some of the Boardsies in the room where monkeyfudge, ladybirdirl, stevenmu, grimes not sure if Stoner and ODonnell where in the room too?

ShellBell1

Sabotage wrote: »

I was in a room with 10 other people (mostly Boardsies) and most of those ten saw "something" moving about the room. Some even saw it approach me in a chair and put its hands around my neck.

Jesus, is that for real?

6th

I'm sure the otehrs will come in and collaborate the story. It was in Ross Castle on a trip we organised through this forum. Wasnt even the weirdest thing thats happened down there.

davyjose

caoibhin wrote: »

Ive just read the charter and i cant see where it says that one must believe in the paranormal to contribute.

Yeah right Missus Gin and tonic.

That's a contribution, is it?

Duff

Sabotage wrote: »

I'm sure the otehrs will come in and collaborate the story. It was in Ross Castle on a trip we organised through this forum. Wasnt even the weirdest thing thats happened down there.

What was?

holly1

What were the other strange happenings,please share them Sabotage ?

monkeyfudge

Yep. I was in Ross Castle that time and could make out the figure next to 'sabotage'

I'd be of a skeptic mindset myself... but outrightly discounting unexplained phenomenon is silly and short sighted. But I'm certainly not going to jump to the conclusion of ghosts any time soon.

We're going back to Ross castle at the end of the month. It should prove interesting.

stevenmu

caoibhin banned

ShellBell1

Sabotage wrote:

I'm sure the otehrs will come in and collaborate the story. It was in Ross Castle on a trip we organised through this forum. Wasnt even the weirdest thing thats happened down there.

Can you just freely walk into Ross Castle, or what? Sorry, I've never been there so I don't have a clue.

What's the history of the place? I'm crap at historical knowledge of local sites, etc.

Yeah, I dunno about ghosts either. I don't like using that word for anything 'otherwordly'- it's a bit of an 'umbrella' word, i.e. covers the whole spectrum. That thing you saw beside Sabotage sounds freaky, though. What did it look like, and did it just disappear then, or what?

ShellBell1

stevenmu wrote: »

caoibhin banned

Farewell to Caoibhin- I'm sure your disdain will be of profitable use elsewhere.

Zillah

See, what makes me so sceptical about "Shadow People" you might guess from the name. Shadows. Its just asking for misinterpretation. A shadow (the physical kind), has no texture, no features, and an arbitrary shape, size and position. That is worst case scenario for the brain to try and work out whats going on.

I wouldn't dismiss the optical illusion suggestion too easily. It has nothing to do with your eyes, its all about how the brain works. When you see something your brain tries to match it against things its seen before (a face, a human figure, dog, house etc). Sometimes if what its seeing is a little bit too much like a person it can very easily push a bit too hard and force it into that type.

Just an example from a while ago for myself. I was waiting at a bus stop. While waiting an insect dropped into my vision. At first I thought it was a spider on a thread of silk, and it looked like it too. Then I thought maybe it was a fly, and lo and behold the shape in front of me resolved into what I thought was a fly, tiny wings and all. Then I went back to spider, then fly, easily four or five times, and at any given point I'd have sworn it looked exactly like what I'd have expected.

My rather rambling point here is that just because you see something doesn't mean it was actually a real thing as you perceived it. A slight change in light or position might have made you go "Ohhhhhhhh, it was just x", where x is something very mundane. I've done it myself plenty of times. I've thought there was someone standing in my garden, I've thought I heard someone coming in the front door, I've thought I heard screaming, and every time that I've investigated I've ended up going "Ohhh, it was just a tree/shadow/wind/cat etc".

If someone said to me "I was coming up my driveway and I saw a shadow person and it ran in circles around me and I turned on the light and it didn't go away and its happened three times" I'd be very curious. But a fleeting glimpse is so very easy to mistake I'd be very sceptical.

ShellBell1

Zillah wrote: »

See, what makes me so sceptical about "Shadow People" you might guess from the name. Shadows. Its just asking for misinterpretation. A shadow (the physical kind), has no texture, no features, and an arbitrary shape, size and position. That is worst case scenario for the brain to try and work out whats going on.

I wouldn't dismiss the optical illusion suggestion too easily. It has nothing to do with your eyes, its all about how the brain works. When you see something your brain tries to match it against things its seen before (a face, a human figure, dog, house etc). Sometimes if what its seeing is a little bit too much like a person it can very easily push a bit too hard and force it into that type.
My rather rambling point here is that just because you see something doesn't mean it was actually a real thing as you perceived it. A slight change in light or position might have made you go "Ohhhhhhhh, it was just x", where x is something very mundane. I've done it myself plenty of times. I've thought there was someone standing in my garden, I've thought I heard someone coming in the front door, I've thought I heard screaming, and every time that I've investigated I've ended up going "Ohhh, it was just a tree/shadow/wind/cat etc".

If someone said to me "I was coming up my driveway and I saw a shadow person and it ran in circles around me and I turned on the light and it didn't go away and its happened three times" I'd be very curious. But a fleeting glimpse is so very easy to mistake I'd be very sceptical.

Ok, Zillah, I understand your point. When I call it a "shadow person", I don't mean it was actually a shadow assumed by me to be in the shape of a person. I used that for lack of more suitable words. This thing was not something I saw within the time frame of a millisecond or two seconds. It ran very quickly across a distance of several yards before it was gone.

Finally, I happened to be looking in the direction where it appeared as I was walking along in the first place. I could distinguish that there was nothing there at first and then there was.

Yeah, sure, I have often mistakenly thought "Oh, there was something lurking there" or "Christ, what's that?!" before quickly realising I was imagining it and quietly telling myself, "Ya eejit, ya". Same as you. But I'm positive I didn't imagine that figure because it stirred some awful feelings of real fear in me that I wouldn't get from instances where I mistakenly saw something. For weeks afterwards, I avoided walking up her driveway by myself- even in daylight.

I don't have any fear of things I deem to be rooted in optical illusions or an overactive imagination. It's as simple as that. I know where you're coming from and what you're trying to illustrate, but I don't have full-blown emotional reactions to things that are a figment of the imagination.

Sorry, but I stand by my claim.

BigglesMcGee

ShellBell1 wrote: »

Ok, Zillah, I understand your point. When I call it a "shadow person", I don't mean it was actually a shadow assumed by me to be in the shape of a person. I used that for lack of more suitable words. This thing was not something I saw within the time frame of a millisecond or two seconds. It ran very quickly across a distance of several yards before it was gone.

Finally, I happened to be looking in the direction where it appeared as I was walking along in the first place. I could distinguish that there was nothing there at first and then there was.

Yeah, sure, I have often mistakenly thought "Oh, there was something lurking there" or "Christ, what's that?!" before quickly realising I was imagining it and quietly telling myself, "Ya eejit, ya". Same as you. But I'm positive I didn't imagine that figure because it stirred some awful feelings of real fear in me that I wouldn't get from instances where I mistakenly saw something. For weeks afterwards, I avoided walking up her driveway by myself- even in daylight.

I don't have any fear of things I deem to be rooted in optical illusions or an overactive imagination. It's as simple as that. I know where you're coming from and what you're trying to illustrate, but I don't have full-blown emotional reactions to things that are a figment of the imagination.

Sorry, but I stand by my claim.

I think the probability of a supernatural experience here is infinitly less likely than the probability that your mind was playing tricks on you.

Stoner

Sabotage wrote: »

I'm sure the otehrs will come in and collaborate the story. It was in Ross Castle on a trip we organised through this forum. Wasnt even the weirdest thing thats happened down there.

I was there, i was nearer to Sabotage than monkeyfudge, monkeyfudge, as he confirmed could make something out, I didn't, Grimes saw something too. there were others there who did and didn't see it.

I think that a lot of kids report seeing shadowy figures, as a kid i did see things out of the corner of my eye, black darting shadows. I have described them before as looking the Sandyman Port man. But that was 30 ago, nothing since if it was ever anything at all.

There is a very strange pod cast on ghost village with a guy who spends a lot of time reseaching shadow. Some of the theories about them are very detailed.

I've never seen the head on ones that people talk about.

ShellBell1

You can say what you like about the soundness of my mind at the time, but that assumption pretty much unwittingly brings this subject to a close.

I believe it happened, you don't, I do, you don't. We're just going round and round in circles of futility. I shared my experience in good faith that I wasn't loo-la at the time of its occurence, and I was simply looking to see how other people could expand on this - not constrict its merits for discussion.

Why should the unlikely probability of me attributing that sighting to the tricks of my mind burden you so heavily anyway? Shur, I'm a f*cking delusional mental case anyway. Hallucinating like a fella who's been stuck out in the desert for too long. Yessiree!

BigglesMcGee

ShellBell1 wrote: »

You can say what you like about the soundness of my mind at the time, but that assumption pretty much unwittingly brings this subject to a close.

I believe it happened, you don't, I do, you don't. We're just going round and round in circles of futility. I shared my experience in good faith that I wasn't loo-la at the time of its occurence, and I was simply looking to see how other people could expand on this - not constrict its merits for discussion.

Why should the unlikely probability of me attributing that sighting to the tricks of my mind burden you so heavily anyway? Shur, I'm a f*cking delusional mental case anyway. Hallucinating like a fella who's been stuck out in the desert for too long. Yessiree!

I think that you're not getting the point i was making at all.

ShellBell1

BigglesMcGee wrote: »

I think that you're not getting the point i was making at all.

I did get your point. You were hoping I might consider the possibility -probability even- that my mind was playing tricks on me as a more appropriate explanation of what happened.

Or, is there something I missed?

BigglesMcGee

ShellBell1 wrote: »

I did get your point. You were hoping I might consider the possibility -probability even- that my mind was playing tricks on me as a more appropriate explanation of what happened.

Or, is there something I missed?

And did that deserve the little outburt in your last post?

ShellBell1

BigglesMcGee wrote: »

And did that deserve the little outburt in your last post?

Well, TBH, I'm very much on the defensive considering some of the dismissive comments this subject matter has attracted.

Look, I don't know you so it's obviously nothing personal. It was a discussion (or a debate) on here and I got fired up about it. That's all.

monkeyfudge

ShellBell1 wrote: »

Can you just freely walk into Ross Castle, or what? Sorry, I've never been there so I don't have a clue.

What's the history of the place? I'm crap at historical knowledge of local sites, etc.

It works as a guest house. If you book all the rooms you can get the place to yourself for the night. I've done it a few times now.



It has got a story attached to it... but it sounds like a loud of guff.

ShellBell1

Oh okay- so that's how they make their money in keeping the place open. But it must be very expensive to rent all of its rooms for the night, is it? Or are there only a few rooms?

Yeah, most stories attached to histroical sites tend to be 'contaminated' with uninformed conjecture along the way. I mean, I even have difficulty believing in the Bible. I'm sure that last remark will get me into trouble now..!

monkeyfudge

ShellBell1 wrote: »

Oh okay- so that's how they make their money in keeping the place open. But it must be very expensive to rent all of its rooms for the night, is it? Or are there only a few rooms?

It works out at e600 for the night. Which isn't too much when you divide it among the group.

I can't remember the specifics of the story, but I do remember it being riddled with cliché.

ShellBell1

That's cool. I must check out the place sometime.

Well, I think my thread on "shadow people" is well and truly spent. Although I was never taking the piss with it all, it's painful to know that this thread now exists for all to see! My ridiculed claims in all their shining glory! It's different when I'm talking to people one-on-one in the flesh. You say something and it's just between yourselves. Done. Move on.

I will never take privacy for granted again!

Stoner

TBH there have been many threads here on the subject. Many people have reported seeing them,
I was on an investigation recently with 40 people, well over half of them reported seeing "something" like a shadow, some were unsure some were too sure IMO. However we were all well aware of the amount of shadow people sightings reported, so every possible shadow was given more than average attention.

Anyway it's a personal thing you saw what you saw, people wont be convinced either way until they see something themselves, unless they fall into the bracket of the pretenders of the ones who think having seen something is the equivalent to catching a larger fish, much bigger than any other fish caught that day.

ShellBell1

Stoner wrote: »

TBH there have been many threads here on the subject. Many people have reported seeing them,
I was on an investigation recently with 40 people, well over half of them reported seeing "something" like a shadow, some were unsure some were too sure IMO. However we were all well aware of the amount of shadow people sightings reported, so every possible shadow was given more than average attention.

I didn't know you had discussed this whole shadow thing on here before. But, then, I haven't been on here for long.

Anyway it's a personal thing you saw what you saw, people wont be convinced either way until they see something themselves, unless they fall into the bracket of the pretenders of the ones who think having seen something is the equivalent to catching a larger fish, much bigger than any other fish caught that day.

I agree that other people have to see things in order to believe them. There really is no other way. I'll be more selective in future of whom I tell this type of stuff anyway. Spares a lot of headaches.

Stoner

that's the nature of the forum here, things get buried and brought up again, If I saw a shadow person, I'd start my own thread too.
It's a decent forum, you should give it a go again, you should hang around, people taking the P will be banned anyway, if you passionately don't agree with someone, just leave the thread alone.

Ghost Girl

Shadow people, yes, explanation? - im open minded. Have seen / felt many things - If you mean by shadow - not fully the person, or see through, partial person or what ever - then yes have seen, not too often thankfully.


what do you think a shadow person is? a ghost?

Are you open to the fact it could be the mind aswell, i am open to that aswell, the mind is powerful, but i also believe it could be some thing else, in other words you're not mad.

We're not mad. Certain things cannot be explained!

???

Certain things cannot be explained!

Such as?

And also, unexplained does not been unexplainable.

Ghost Girl

??? wrote: »

Such as?

And also, unexplained does not been unexplainable.

Such as, for example, a shadow person telling you some thing you couldn't possibly know, and you then have information that later turns out to be true, so if it is just the mind playing tricks, how can you be told some thing from the future?? You tell some one the information you have - and then later when it plays out, they want to know how you knew! That's what I call unexplainable!!