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UEFA Cup Final: Zenit v Rangers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,454 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsjF5Wcdbf4

    30 seconds in... no excuse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    dc69 wrote: »
    wheres Eirebear?
    not only does he have to explain his teams boring,losing football,but also has to defend the comments he made "defending" rangers fans in the other thread,that news link above and the link about the screen smashing says it all.

    hes at the match or watching it in Ibrox not sure which, mad idea i know when theres a tv in his house but there yah go some people make the effort.
    dc69 wrote: »
    They really are amongst the worst football fans,that can be found.I wouldnt even call them fans!

    Really? how do you know that ? Did you know Man City fans were baton charged INSIDE the stadium on sunday and lay waste to the their stand? Dont always believe what the media portrays when the media has a vested interest in ensuring their "product" is protected.

    Did you know at every PL game hoolies meet at a designated spot and batter each other then go to games and sing "run away run away"?


    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    Did you know at every PL game hoolies meet at a designated spot and batter each other then go to games and sing "run away run away"?

    kdjac


    Really? How do you know that? At every pl game? By and large hooliganism has disappeared from most pl clubs. I know you were answering another post but you are doing the exact same making a sweeping statement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69



    was that a punch or a bottle?

    Cracking punch if it was a punch!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭dc69


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    hes at the match or watching it in Ibrox not sure which, mad idea i know when theres a tv in his house but there yah go some people make the effort.



    Really? how do you know that ? Did you know Man City fans were baton charged INSIDE the stadium on sunday and lay waste to the their stand? Dont always believe what the media portrays when the media has a vested interest in ensuring their "product" is protected.

    Did you know at every PL game hoolies meet at a designated spot and batter each other then go to games and sing "run away run away"?


    kdjac

    oh please,even going by media coverage or not,rangers fans are amongst the worst in the world.They would get the award for their racism if not their behavior.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgzL6r1VeK0&feature=related

    what do you feel after watching that?Hurts a little deeper when its directed directly at us,and then people like eirebear come on here and try to defend these fans?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan



    tbh, thats just one bloke hitting another bloke. nothing to do with football


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Really? How do you know that? At every pl game? By and large hooliganism has disappeared from most pl clubs. I know you were answering another post but you are doing the exact same making a sweeping statement.


    By going to them and knowing people who go to them. Your making a sweeping statement assuming it doesnt happen, your statement is based on Media all of which have an income and a vested interest in ensuring its not reported. Dont assume it has disappeared if anything its gotten bigger with the larger scumbag element at large.


    dc69 wrote: »
    oh please,even going by media coverage or not,rangers fans are amongst the worst in the world.They would get the award for their racism if not their behavior.

    Or not and what would that be?

    totally OT now tho, my fault.



    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    By going to them and knowing people who go to them. Your making a sweeping statement assuming it doesnt happen, your statement is based on Media all of which have an income and a vested interest in ensuring its not reported. Dont assume it has disappeared if anything its gotten bigger with the larger scumbag element at large.


    kdjac



    Don't assume that I basing my comments on the media ;) I am not going by media, I am speaking from attending premiership matches both home and away on a very regular basis. I can only comment from what I see. I never said it had completely gone but by and large from what I see it has.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    What a right hand that was!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Don't assume that I basing my comments on the media ;) I am not going by media, I am speaking from attending premiership matches both home and away on a very regular basis. I can only comment from what I see. I never said it had completely gone but by and large from what I see it has.

    its a different thread tbh but it hasnt gone, noone in their right mind can assume that its gone when society has produced complete and utter scumbags in all cities in the UK and Ireland, i would argue they werent at the game in St Pats defence and were only there to fight with nordies, you would argue the media didnt report it or it didnt happen in the stadium or outside it.

    But assuming its gone is naieve.

    totally OT but at least we have a thread for the summer borefest of no tv football :D



    kdjac


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    dc69 wrote: »
    wheres Eirebear?
    not only does he have to explain his teams boring,losing football,but also has to defend the comments he made "defending" rangers fans in the other thread,that news link above and the link about the screen smashing says it all.

    They really are amongst the worst football fans,that can be found.I wouldnt even call them fans!


    Indeed.

    Though personally I was more pleased that any of the temporary Gers supporters here who were backing them on some sort of bizarre thinking that Celtic are the reason the EL gets crap attendances lost a few quid (or because much of the Celtic support is made up of skangers- presumably burberry cap wearing Carling drinking Gers heads from East Belfast are somehow a lesser evil than Dutch drinking hoops fans from Tallaght :rolleyes: Jesus give me back the old rolleyes)

    Poor 1st half, Gers midfield was awful throughout, let too many into their own half and provided little service for the attack. Luckily for them defense was largely on form. But ****, at one stage I forgot what colour jersey the Zenit goalie was wearing we saw so little of him. Zenit really turned Gers complacency on its head in pt 2, well done to them. Gers shouldve really played Kris Boyd earlier on.

    The players letting their kids take the medals at the end was gas. *Stop press: football governing officials in having a bit of craic and putting down the rulebook shocker* :eek::eek:

    One of the cameramen really had a thing for a certain Russian fan, longish half curled blonde hair, wearing a blue bandanna at one point, focused on her at least six times in the match :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Did you know at every PL game hoolies meet at a designated spot and batter each other then go to games and sing "run away run away"?

    Every single game! really? Did it happen to all games last weekend? How do you know. Where you there? Do you know people that were at these games?

    Chirst get off your "im a real football fan" high horse and stop making such sweeping statments.

    On the afters tonight, is anybody surprised? Its rangers in europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    I don't condone people using some guy's misfortune as a point to be won against a rival team.

    A FOOTBALL fan got stabbed. By another FOOTBALL fan. The only victim here is FOOTBALL, and NO-ONE gains anything from it.

    No - this invective has to stop.

    Rangers fans thrashed Manchester and stabbed a man in the full glare of the worlds media. This behaviour has not been seen at a major final since the 80's.

    Rangers fans, yet again, act like utter scum away in Europe and they can deal with the consequnces of their behaviour without this inane defence of the indefensible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Really? How do you know that? At every pl game? By and large hooliganism has disappeared from most pl clubs. I know you were answering another post but you are doing the exact same making a sweeping statement.


    Not only in PL, happens in all most of the leagues in England, Poland, Russia, etc... Hooliganism hasn't disappeared from most clubs in the PL, it's merely they're either banned or can't afford tickets, the fights still happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    its a different thread tbh but it hasnt gone, noone in their right mind can assume that its gone when society has produced complete and utter scumbags in all cities in the UK and Ireland, i would argue they werent at the game in St Pats defence and were only there to fight with nordies, you would argue the media didnt report it or it didnt happen in the stadium or outside it.

    But assuming its gone is naieve.

    totally OT but at least we have a thread for the summer borefest of no tv football :D



    kdjac


    I agree to a certain extent as you say both in the UK and Ireland sadly cities are producing scumbags but then is it fair to call these people football hooligans are they not just hooligans, as I said from my experience thankfully I feel very safe going to matches particularly at home and feel very safe going to pubs near the grounds but as you said doesn't mean five or ten miles away their is not fighting, but is it football related? from a supporters point of view I am glad that fans can mix in the area surrounding the stadium and on tubes by and large. Anyway as you said we are going ot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    jank wrote: »
    Every single game! really? Did it happen to all games last weekend? How do you know. Where you there? Do you know people that were at these games?

    Chirst get off your "im a real football fan" high horse and stop making such sweeping statments.

    On the afters tonight, is anybody surprised? Its rangers in europe.

    I do know man city fans thrashed a stadium and hoolies do meet. yet noone can confirm it happened or didnt via the media....hmmm sweeping statements ftw!
    No - this invective has to stop.

    Rangers fans thrashed Manchester and stabbed a man in the full glare of the worlds media. This behaviour has not been seen at a major final since the 80's.

    Rangers fans, yet again, act like utter scum away in Europe and they can deal with the consequnces of their behaviour without this inane defence of the indefensible.


    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAhHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

    seriously HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH absolute priceless coming from yourself.



    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Not only in PL, happens in all most of the leagues in England, Poland, Russia, etc... Hooliganism hasn't disappeared from most clubs in the PL, it's merely they're either banned or can't afford tickets, the fights still happen.


    and LOI?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    Wasn't there a quarter of a million fans there? Looking at it, there was always going to be trouble, there was no way the police could stop the well known scumbag element traveling because it was on the mainland in Britain. Certaintly doesn't add to Rangers reputation in a good way. At this stage they're some of the most feared travelling supporters in Europe which is unfortunate for the reputation of Scottish football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,454 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Not only in PL, happens in all most of the leagues in England, Poland, Russia, etc... Hooliganism hasn't disappeared from most clubs in the PL, it's merely they're either banned or can't afford tickets, the fights still happen.

    Happens at all games in most of the leagues in Europe?? Get a fecking grip on yourself FFS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    KdjaCL wrote: »



    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAhHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

    seriously HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH absolute priceless coming from yourself.



    kdjac

    How so?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,454 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    themont85 wrote: »
    Wasn't there a quarter of a million fans there? Looking at it, there was always going to be trouble, there was no way the police could stop the well known scumbag element traveling because it was on the mainland in Britain. Certaintly doesn't add to Rangers reputation in a good way. At this stage they're some of the most feared travelling supporters in Europe which is unfortunate for the reputation of Scottish football.

    100,000 apparantly. It has feck all to do with the reputation of Scottish football


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    and LOI?


    Yup with the "schooligans".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,454 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Mr Alan wrote: »

    More classic whataboutery from the Rangers apologists


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    I agree to a certain extent as you say both in the UK and Ireland sadly cities are producing scumbags but then is it fair to call these people football hooligans are they not just hooligans, as I said from my experience thankfully I feel very safe going to matches particularly at home and feel very safe going to pubs near the grounds but as you said doesn't mean five or ten miles away their is not fighting, but from a supporters point of view I am glad that fans can mix in the area surrounding the stadium and on tubes by and large. Anyway as you said we are going ot.


    Yup tis OT but people will still point blame at rangers fans for this incident, imo they not football fans they went to wreck manchester regardless of the result mainly as they are scumbags as i am sure glasgow is littered with them as most cities in UK and Ireland are.

    But for certain fans to point out how their rivals " alleged" fans are behaving when theirs are no better it does point out a difference in that certain media will report it when it suits them as their agenda is ensuring the premiership is kept incident free as a main page story on a PL club is far more important then showing this http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00178/trouble_178803t.jpg

    Its how it is.


    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Yup with the "schooligans".

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Happens at all games in most of the leagues in Europe?? Get a fecking grip on yourself FFS

    Name a league off the top of your head that this doesn't happen? The only one I don't know of is in Portguese League.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    :D

    I ain't joking, "Rovers" and "Bohs" have met up at Heuston Station Bridge and Rialto for organised fights, there just the 2 I know of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    More classic whataboutery from the Rangers apologists

    just pointing out the irony in giving Rangers stick on thread for their sectarian element when **** like the above is common place.

    i am not a rangers apologist, i just find it hilarious how people like to paint em out to be the devil, be interesting to see in the morning exactly the deal with the stabbing in fact the only official police statement released thus far if i'm not mistaken is praising the behaviour of both sets of fans, and there has been wat....6 arrests with over 100K people there? hardly a huge number

    and also, any fracas involving Rangers and Zennit fans may not nescessarily be the fault of Rangers fans (although a stabbing is uncondonable at for any reason), Russian football fans are hardly famed for their angelic behaviour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No - this invective has to stop.

    Rangers fans thrashed Manchester and stabbed a man in the full glare of the worlds media. This behaviour has not been seen at a major final since the 80's.

    Rangers fans, yet again, act like utter scum away in Europe and they can deal with the consequnces of their behaviour without this inane defence of the indefensible.

    When you say "invective" are you referring to me talking about football, or you using it as an excuse to have a go at Rangers?
    When you say "yet again" can you point at other incidents?
    When you say "utter scum" are you taking about Rangers fans, Glasgow fans, or football fans?

    When you type, are you typing as a football fan or a Celtic fan? Do you feel the same way EVERY time there's an incident (this isn;t the first stabbing at a football match since the 80s!)

    Did you call for Lazio to be banned?
    Did you call for Milan to be banned?
    If it was every commited by a Celtic fan would you be as quick to call for Celtic to be banned?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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