Pointless jobs in the HSE

Sam Vimes

I was talking to someone today about his former job in the HSE, in an IT related role. He described his typical day. This was the average day for most of the staff:

come in for 10:00
tea break from 10:45 to 11:30
lunch from 13:00 to 15:00
finish up at 15:50
the intervening time is spent browsing the internet

and when I say typical day, I mean every day.

the reason they all get away with it is their manager only came in about 5 days a month. This was normal for managers

for a time, he worked from home. In this time, he built a house. Essentially he was being paid a very good wage from the government to do absolutely nothing. He was basically on the dole but with a much higher weekly pay out


what I'm wondering is why this is allowed to continue. This is obviously what's wrong with the whole health care system. His entire section could have been sacked with absolutely no ill effects to the HSE.

And meanwhile, my aunt, who's a nurse says that the ward she works on is supposed to have 15 (afair) nurses but it has two


so I'm going to throw it out to all of you highly educated AHers. What can be done about this ridiculous situation? Any suggestions involving a flame thrower are especially welcome

whiskeyman

Sam Vimes wrote: »

so I'm going to throw it out to all of you highly educated AHers. What can be done about this ridiculous situation?

Do you know if they're recruiting?


/hands CV in

Tigger

no there is a freze on recruiting
and they are refusing to do overtime

Cuddlesworth

Nothing, there is clearly a problem internally if staff member can do that. The only people who can fix it are the people working for the HSE. And clearly they don't care.

Adam

So what you're trying to tell me really, is that I should put more appropriate credentials on my CV next time I apply for a HSE department job?
Like "Faffing About Marvellously Champion of the Year Award '07/'08"?

El Weirdo

Does it really surprise you?

Mr. CooL ICE

Sam Vimes wrote: »

all of you highly educated AHers.

needs citation

Sam Vimes

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Nothing, there is clearly a problem internally if staff member can do that. The only people who can fix it are the people working for the HSE. And clearly they don't care.

if this was a private company i'd see that as an option. i'd be happy to see the company go down in flames. but when the HSE doesn't work properly people die. if the people in power won't do anything about it, their power has to be given to someone who will

Elessar

It's nothing new. A family member is on 13-14 euro/hr serving tea to people in a dublin hospital (with triple time bank holidays), whereas her mother is an agency care assistant in another hospital earning about 8.50/hr.

Problem is lack of decent top level management and structure.

de5p0i1er

What they need to do is get a smart business person to run the HSE, somebody like Micheal Leary, they may even start to make a profit.

BanzaiBk

Sam Vimes wrote: »

come in for 10:00
tea break from 10:45 to 11:30
lunch from 13:00 to 15:00
finish up at 15:50
the intervening time is spent browsing the internet

Sounds about right, with a little bit of work here and there. I worked in admin (had a massive workload so no slacking for me) for 2 years. It's amazing how little people can actually get away with doing on a daily basis. Only some managers are there for limited time though, the majority are there everyday. Even so, they don't seem to do sweet FA either.

whiskeyman wrote: »

Do you know if they're recruiting?


/hands CV in

Recruitment ban unfortunatly:p

ChewChew

Sam Vimes wrote: »

I was talking to someone today about his former job in the HSE, in an IT related role. He described his typical day. This was the average day for most of the staff:

come in for 10:00
tea break from 10:45 to 11:30
lunch from 13:00 to 15:00
finish up at 15:50
the intervening time is spent browsing the internet

and when I say typical day, I mean every day.

the reason they all get away with it is their manager only came in about 5 days a month. This was normal for managers

for a time, he worked from home. In this time, he built a house. Essentially he was being paid a very good wage from the government to do absolutely nothing. He was basically on the dole but with a much higher weekly pay out


what I'm wondering is why this is allowed to continue. This is obviously what's wrong with the whole health care system. His entire section could have been sacked with absolutely no ill effects to the HSE.

And meanwhile, my aunt, who's a nurse says that the ward she works on is supposed to have 15 (afair) nurses but it has two


so I'm going to throw it out to all of you highly educated AHers. What can be done about this ridiculous situation? Any suggestions involving a flame thrower are especially welcome

What your friend has been telling you sounds like a load of bullsh*t

I work for the HSE. I work in a very busy Dublin hospital and I work flexi time. Alot of other companies also have this option.

The health system is not the way it is because of its staff. Give them a bit of a break. but like every job you have the odd LAZY BASTID who gives everyone else a bad name.

I could go into detail of what I see is the REAL problem with the HSE but this isnt the thread for it, and my bp is steady at the mo.

The HSE put a recruitment freeze on staff last year. no new nurses, locums etc. The nurses went on strike. ban was lifted a few months later. BUT, what wasnt brought to the attention of YOU the public was that the ban was still in place for social workers, physiotherapists, clerical officers. So I think we, the non-medical/clinic staff of the HSE deserve to strike. We're not looking for more money. We're looing for HELP to ensure the Public patient a better health service and to make their visit a little easier.

I work in a very hard, demanding part of the HSE that everyone in Ireland is only too familiar with and I feel I deserve alot more money for what I do and what I put up with. But I accept what I earn because I love my job. I love what I do for you, and your friends, and your brothers, sisters, mum, dad and extended family. but I dont deserve to be slated because I work for the government. I do my job 5 days a week, and by god I do it exceptionally well at that!!!

So OP I sincerely hope your friend no longer works for the HSE because it take hard working, dedicated people to help build a better service that every single one of you deserve.

Sherifu

It's not that surprising to read unfortunately. Best job ever \o/

Sam Vimes

ChewChew wrote: »

So OP I sincerely hope your friend no longer works for the HSE because it take hard working, dedicated people to help build a better service that every single one of you deserve.

in fact he left the HSE because he was doing nothing and it didn't look like that was going to change

it wasn't that he was lazy. there was just nothing to do

ChewChew wrote: »

I could go into detail of what I see is the REAL problem with the HSE but this isnt the thread for it, and my bp is steady at the mo.

please do. maybe not here but somewhere. talk to your managers. turn in the lazy c*nts who are leeching off the system. this situation can't be allowed to continue

Toto Wolfcastle

I don't think that this type of thing is just happening within the HSE!


/points to Boardsies who spend all day in work on Boards!

Sam Vimes

janeybabe wrote: »

I don't think that this type of thing is just happening within the HSE!


/points to Boardsies who spend all day in work on Boards!

i don't care if people in private companies dos. their dossing doesn't kill people

ChewChew

SAm Vimes. ..

your friend seems to be the only person I know who works/worked in the HSE in IT who didnt have anything to do. Personally, I couldnt do my job without the help of IT. thats just how it is.

And no, I'm not going into my personal views on the HSE. once I'd start, I'd find it hard to stop tbh.

And as for people going online in work, I have never ever been on boards during the day. And as for the private sector?? How do you know people here do NOT work in private hospitals?? I'm surprised someone has thrown in the old liner ''oh well we're paying your wages'' sh*te.

I'm sorry if this seems directed to you, it really isnt so please accept my apologies. It's just something that annoys me because I work so so hard to do my best for those who really need th HSE

kmart6

Sam Vimes wrote: »

if this was a private company i'd see that as an option. i'd be happy to see the company go down in flames. but when the HSE doesn't work properly people die. if the people in power won't do anything about it, their power has to be given to someone who will

Don't think some I.T. guy working like that is going to cause people to die!

jon1981

the public sector is a farce, no accountability, no performanace management, no responsibility! how can you expect staff to over achieve or work harder if there are no incentives or penalites in place...

simple example, if i perform badly, my company suffers, loses money and hence i probably may lose my job... no public sector employee has this worry...simple as!!!

ronbyrne2005

kmart6 wrote: »

Don't think some I.T. guy working like that is going to cause people to die!

Never know, maybe if the IT dept worked harder/better more efficiently ,patient information may get processed and distributed quicker and more accurately and allow doctors and nurses work more efficiently. I agree it's unlikely the guy above is probably not dealing with critical data but it's the work ethic that pervades such public sector organisations.
Another one of the many many big flaws is under utilisation
of resources. Machines like CAT scanners and MRIs are only used during office hours and sit idle most of time. Operating theatres are used generally monday-friday 8-4pm for non emergency surgery. In better health systems resources are much better utilised

Sam Vimes

kmart6 wrote: »

Don't think some I.T. guy working like that is going to cause people to die!

the HSE is allocated a certain amount of money each year. every euro they spend paying someone to browse the net and drink tea is a euro they didn't spend on doctors, nurses, equipment etc

kmart6

Sam Vimes wrote: »

the HSE is allocated a certain amount of money each year. every euro they spend paying someone to browse the net and drink tea is a euro they didn't spend on doctors, nurses, equipment etc

Yeah ok fair enough! But if your looking at the HSE as a business/company it's the same everywhere,there's always going to be money that could be spent on improving things,doesn't mean it'll happen though!

Steve

ChewChew wrote: »

I could go into detail of what I see is the REAL problem with the HSE but this isnt the thread for it, and my bp is steady at the mo.

Wild guess but is it a fat bird called Mary?

janeybabe wrote: »

/points to Boardsies who spend all day in work on Boards!

Pot - kettlz:pac:

Toto Wolfcastle

stevec wrote: »

Pot - kettlz:pac:

LOL I don't go on Boards in work! I can't, I teach!

Victor

Sam Vimes wrote: »

I was talking to someone today about his former job in the HSE, in an IT related role. He described his typical day. This was the average day for most of the staff:

Were you in work while posting this? :pac:

Jay D

Sam Vimes wrote: »

I was talking to someone today about his former job in the HSE, in an IT related role. He described his typical day. This was the average day for most of the staff:

come in for 10:00
tea break from 10:45 to 11:30
lunch from 13:00 to 15:00
finish up at 15:50
the intervening time is spent browsing the internet

and when I say typical day, I mean every day.

the reason they all get away with it is their manager only came in about 5 days a month. This was normal for managers

for a time, he worked from home. In this time, he built a house. Essentially he was being paid a very good wage from the government to do absolutely nothing. He was basically on the dole but with a much higher weekly pay out


what I'm wondering is why this is allowed to continue. This is obviously what's wrong with the whole health care system. His entire section could have been sacked with absolutely no ill effects to the HSE.

And meanwhile, my aunt, who's a nurse says that the ward she works on is supposed to have 15 (afair) nurses but it has two


so I'm going to throw it out to all of you highly educated AHers. What can be done about this ridiculous situation? Any suggestions involving a flame thrower are especially welcome

any, and I mean, ANY, civil service place I worked in, they always done **** all, and believe me it's normal.

Oh and as for them HQ people processing dodgy injury claims by the filth :pac:

Sam Vimes

Victor wrote: »

Were you in work while posting this? :pac:

emmmm, emmmmm.

i wasn't in fact

that doesn't mean i never post in work but i also do work in work which doesn't appear to be the case in his section