Anyone want to check my CV?

PCros

I was just wondering if anyone out there thats a MD, or anyone that knows a good cv from a bad one could check my CV for me?

Its just I have sent off a few and heard very little back and I think its my cv thats letting me down.

Thanks in advance.

Raekwon

I don't think you'll find many MD's reading boards TBH, but there are a good few recruiter types on here and any of them could throw an eye over your CV and see why it isn't doing what it was designed to do.

Judging by your username I am assuming that you are looking for work in IT, would I be right? If so you could send me a copy of your CV (via PM), I've worked in IT a number of years and have seen hundreds of CV's so maybe I could give you a few personal pointers or point you in the right direction?

Keano

Raekwon wrote: »

I don't think you'll find many MD's reading boards TBH, but there are a good few recruiter types on here and any of them could throw an eye over your CV and see why it isn't doing what it was designed to do.

Judging by your username I am assuming that you are looking for work in IT, would I be right? If so you could send me a copy of your CV (via PM), I've worked in IT a number of years and have seen hundreds of CV's so maybe I could give you a few personal pointers or point you in the right direction?

Care to have a look at mine??

board om

alright lads,

i have a few years experience in recruitment so feel free to PM me and I will have a look over them if you want.

when you are sending it let me know exactly what it is you are looking for work wise so i can see who the CV is aimed towards.

thanks

Raekwon

Keano A Legend wrote: »

Care to have a look at mine??

Sure. PM me!

GoneShootin

To paraphrase:

"I don't know CV's, but I know what I like"

PM it to me - I'll tell you what I don't like, but what I think might not be worth much

The Hill Billy

You can PM me too.

Caoimhín

PCros wrote: »

I was just wondering if anyone out there thats a MD, or anyone that knows a good cv from a bad one could check my CV for me?

Its just I have sent off a few and heard very little back and I think its my cv thats letting me down.

Thanks in advance.

CEO employing 120 staff. I see many, many CV's.
PM me and i will have a look.

amtc

caoibhin wrote: »

CEO employing 120 staff. I see many, many CV's.
PM me and i will have a look.

CV's (!) Where is the possession of the CV? CV plural = CVs
Between that and the OP (thats), there's a distinct lack of attention to punctuation.

I do a pretty good grammar and punctuation check so PM away.

nesf

amtc wrote: »

CV's (!) Where is the possession of the CV? CV plural = CVs
Between that and the OP (thats), there's a distinct lack of attention to punctuation.

I do a pretty good grammar and punctuation check so PM away.

Actually, CV's is perfectly acceptable since it is an abbreviation that is being made into a plural. If you're offering grammar and punctuation checks etc.

's doesn't just indicate possession.

Petrolium Hat

nesf wrote: »

Actually, CV's is perfectly acceptable since it is an abbreviation that is being made into a plural. If you're offering grammar and punctuation checks etc.

's doesn't just indicate possession.

I'm gone off the point but it's not perfectly acceptable. " 's " should be used only to show possession or as an abbreviation of "has" or "is" not in this case where the abbreviation is Curriculum Vitae.

The rule of thumb is "why is the apostrophe there?" If the answer is "because it's plural" then leave it out. If it makes sense without the apostrophe then why include it?

The first hit in google for " 's grammar" is
http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/grammar/using-s.htm


It might explain better than I. (I'm not being trying to be rude, if someone makes a typo fair play, I do the whole time and am more than open on correction)

On the CV, PM me if you want as I have experience of reading and assessing CVs.

GoneShootin

Petrolium Hat wrote: »

..stuff..

nesf

Petrolium Hat wrote: »

I'm gone off the point but it's not perfectly acceptable. " 's " should be used only to show possession or as an abbreviation of "has" or "is" not in this case where the abbreviation is Curriculum Vitae.

The rule of thumb is "why is the apostrophe there?" If the answer is "because it's plural" then leave it out. If it makes sense without the apostrophe then why include it?

The first hit in google for " 's grammar" is
http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/grammar/using-s.htm

Nope, the rule is in transition. Grammar is not "exact" and over time it slowly changes. Abbreviations and numbers used to be pluralised with apostrophes, this is slowly changing.

i.e. 7's is morphing to 7s and CV's is morphing to CVs

From what I've read, the apostrophe was dropped initially in military literature first with military acronyms/abbreviations being pluralised like ABCs, and this has been slowly spreading into the business and academic world since then.


It still is a matter of debate though and depending on the style guide etc but it really is far too early to say that 7's or CV's is totally unacceptable in my honest opinion.


As an aside, there's a similar thing with C.V. morphing to CV which might be the root of the above. If CV becomes "the standard" then the apostrophe will probably be dropped (with C.V. it needs to be C.V.'s for those who care).

nesf

GoneShootin wrote: »

But grammar is interesting to talk about....

Petrolium Hat

GoneShootin wrote: »

Haha! That's class.
(although as an aside don't get me started on American-style mis-use of the word "irony").

(P.S. and yes there is an irony behind me pointing that out)

Caoimhín

Petrolium Hat wrote: »

Haha! That's class.
(although as an aside don't get me started on American-style mis-use of the word "irony").

(P.S. and yes there is an irony behind me pointing that out)

I hate ironing.

Petrolium Hat

nesf wrote: »

Nope, the rule is in transition. Grammar is not "exact" and over time it slowly changes. Abbreviations and numbers used to be pluralised with apostrophes, this is slowly changing.

i.e. 7's is morphing to 7s and CV's is morphing to CVs

From what I've read, the apostrophe was dropped initially in military literature first with military acronyms/abbreviations being pluralised like ABCs, and this has been slowly spreading into the business and academic world since then.


It still is a matter of debate though and depending on the style guide etc but it really is far too early to say that 7's or CV's is totally unacceptable in my honest opinion.


As an aside, there's a similar thing with C.V. morphing to CV which might be the root of the above. If CV becomes "the standard" then the apostrophe will probably be dropped (with C.V. it needs to be C.V.'s for those who care).

I sound like your man of peep show : "there are rules and proper channels to go through". My arguement (while flakey since I use CV myself) would be that just because something is in common use, doesn't mean it's right or should be accepted as "proper' languange. Text speak would be a common example or considering you were talking about business: phrases like 'going forward" as it relates to time, "bluesking", "thinking outside the box" are types of bastardization of the language that while are in common use just disgust me. It's just wrong, it's also just subjective I suppose, but as a fully fledged member of the grammar fascists, I'm right so don't question me.(Yes my tongue is in my cheek, it's hiding behind the non-americanized meaning of irony(yes I did purposely use a "z")).

Don't get me wrong by the way, I'm very fond of making up words and abbreviations because they fit they situation. But a " 's" in "CV's" seems completely unnecessary to me. Why would you put it in, whatever about shortening words. Probably nearly as unnecessary as this argument in the first place!

Petrolium Hat

caoibhin wrote: »

I hate ironing.

I only hate the American ironing. Bigger clothes cos they be all fatteriest.

nesf

Petrolium Hat wrote: »

I sound like your man of peep show : "there are rules and proper channels to go through". My arguement (while flakey since I use CV myself) would be that just because something is in common use, doesn't mean it's right or should be accepted as "proper' languange. Text speak would be a common example or considering you were talking about business: phrases like 'going forward" as it relates to time, "bluesking", "thinking outside the box" are types of bastardization of the language that while are in common use just disgust me. It's just wrong, it's also just subjective I suppose, but as a fully fledged member of the grammar fascists, I'm right so don't question me.(Yes my tongue is in my cheek, it's hiding behind the non-americanized meaning of irony(yes I did purposely use a "z")).

Don't get me wrong by the way, I'm very fond of making up words and abbreviations because they fit they situation. But a " 's" in "CV's" seems completely unnecessary to me. Why would you put it in, whatever about shortening words. Probably nearly as unnecessary as this argument in the first place!

Heh, but CV is slowly becoming the standard in grammar manuals through force of common usage over C.V. mostly through media influences but there are others. A great example is the difference between J K Rowling and J. K. Rowling (I'm not a fan, it's just a name you see in the media a lot). Some places (like the Economist) would still use the latter while other papers are tending towards the former. All grammar is fluid and open to change. At any one time the rules are just the present "best practice standard", no more than that and even then, there tends to be plenty of ambiguity and disagreement on a few topics so that it's ambiguous and the kind of thing that you have to watch for in specific style guides as a writer (for instance, 7's vs 7s is a particular bone of contention and changes from publication to publication in the media etc).

Mostly the reason for my post in the first place was a) I dislike it when people nit pick other people's grammar in a casual context like a forum and b) if you do some reading on this you'll see that the 's for plural is ambiguous (Schaum's Outlines Punctuation, Capitalisation and Spelling is the only one I could find quickly (the ambiguity is mentioned in it), I've others about the place, but it is mentioned in them generally from what I can remember).


Now, saying the prevailing standard is CVs is correct, but CV's is still noted by some style guides as being "valid" if archaic, so to say that CV's is wrong is not true. It's a nitpicker's point, but since the person was nitpicking someone else's grammar I felt it was warranted.

Time Magazine

nesf wrote: »

Heh, but CV is slowly becoming the standard in grammar manuals through force of common usage over C.V. .... blah blah blah

Back on topic please.

Kthxbye.

nesf

Antithetic wrote: »

Back on topic please.

Kthxbye.

*kicks*

Quiet pleb.