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Aspects of the game that drive you mad

  • 29-04-2008 10:53AM
    #1
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    So what gets on peoples wicks watching a game

    For me it has to be when someone competes with the goalkeeper and 99% of the time it is a free out :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    So what gets on peoples wicks watching a game

    For me it has to be when someone competes with the goalkeeper and 99% of the time it is a free out :mad:

    number 1 for me to.

    Also, blatant obstruction from the defender 'shielding' the ball out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Refs calling back quick/ well planned free kicks.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Tauren wrote: »
    number 1 for me to.

    Also, blatant obstruction from the defender 'shielding' the ball out.
    Thats another on my list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Foul throws not punished in professional football.

    Mega-super-duper-stars, who take corners, but can't beat the FIRST FÚCKING MAN

    What the fúck is that all about? It really, really infuriates me. Seriously. You get paid all this money to play football, you go to take a corner, and you can't even beat the first men.

    Are you fúcking simple?

    There are one or two players I can think of now, getting paid mega-bucks in England who do this constantly.

    Clowns.

    Professional players who can't kick with both feet. Who won't even contemplate kicking the ball with their bad foot, who get into good positions to pass, but turn back on themselves, and into trouble because they "have no left foot".

    ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    Basically how "human error" by referees etc can be the reason results/seasons/careers in some cases are decided, but i guess the same human error is the reason defenders make mistakes and we get goals so that cant really be something that drives me mad!

    But probably blatent cheating, ie diving, moaning at referees, obstructing, holding etc really bugs me. And how a push or a pull or a kick 1cm outside the box is a free, but in the penalty area there needs to be a full-on assault with witnesses and forensic evidence for a penalty, or else no contact at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭Idu


    Inconsistency of Referees. I know they're an easy target and everything but you'd at least like them to have a common line for non playing incidents like abuse from players. Why is Mascherano sent off against united but not Hargreaves against Chelsea. Both doing pretty much the same thing - two different punishments. Frustrating. I'm a United fan too btw in case anyone thinks this is sour grapes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    DesF wrote: »
    Foul throws not punished in professional football.

    Mega-super-duper-stars, who take corners, but can't beat the FIRST FÚCKING MAN

    Yeah everything Des said above, especially the throw ins.( cos im still a bit retarded when it comes to that aspect of the game myself and get pulled up on it sometimes!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I really hate the following things,

    The way defenders are allowed to man handle players during corners (ala Ballack vs. Ronaldo last weekend)

    The way defenders get the benefit of the doubt in offsides, despite the rules explicitly stating that they should not

    The way that the defenders are able to rotate in fouling attackers and the ref normally lets them away with it.

    The way that FIFA won't introduce video replays to cut out diving and goal line technology to solve all those problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    gucci wrote: »
    Yeah everything Des said above, especially the throw ins.( cos im still a bit retarded when it comes to that aspect of the game myself and get pulled up on it sometimes!)
    The throws really do my head in.

    Boardeaux arguably play at one of the lowest levels of football there is, and the refs there blow us up for it all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Inconsistency of Referees. I know they're an easy target and everything but you'd at least like them to have a common line for non playing incidents like abuse from players. Why is Mascherano sent off against united but not Hargreaves against Chelsea. Both doing pretty much the same thing - two different punishments. Frustrating. I'm a United fan too btw in case anyone thinks this is sour grapes

    Hargreaves got a yellow for his dissent - the EXACT same as Mascherano.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Tauren wrote: »
    Hargreaves got a yellow for his dissent - the EXACT same as Mascherano.

    tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭gucci


    DesF wrote: »
    The throws really do my head in.

    Boardeaux arguably play at one of the lowest levels of football there is, and the refs there blow us up for it all the time.

    Dont worry i dont claim to play at any higher of a level. Its just amazing how referees see it as such a unique element of skill that they feel the need to pull up on it the whole time too, i mean many calls are just slowing the game up, and giving people the reason to get on the refs backs. (not literally....)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    DIVING, it used to be a contact sport, now frees are given for nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭ibh


    PHB wrote: »
    I really hate the following things,

    The way defenders are allowed to man handle players during corners (ala Ballack vs. Ronaldo last weekend)

    The way defenders get the benefit of the doubt in offsides, despite the rules explicitly stating that they should not

    The way that the defenders are able to rotate in fouling attackers and the ref normally lets them away with it.

    The way that FIFA won't introduce video replays to cut out diving and goal line technology to solve all those problems.

    Yea this is one of my pet hates as well. In our local summer league we have one referee that does actually give the advantage to the attacker and the difference it makes is unbelievable. He says that if he can't be sure that the man is offside then it would be unfair to stop him.
    Only downside is that i'm a centre back with a very small quantity of pace!!

    Also hate the holding in the box on set pieces. Remember Niall Quinn winning a peno against Spain in the 02 WC. I remember thinking after that that teams might start getting the peno's for this. Again like Des mentioned about the throw-ins, if you did this at the lowest levels of football you would be penalised but in the professional game it's fair enough..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭quad_red


    DesF wrote: »
    Foul throws not punished in professional football.

    Mega-super-duper-stars, who take corners, but can't beat the FIRST FÚCKING MAN

    What the fúck is that all about? It really, really infuriates me. Seriously. You get paid all this money to play football, you go to take a corner, and you can't even beat the first men.

    In terms of screaming out loud at the tv, this hits the nail on the head. It's a dead ball, you've all the time in the world. And boom, you hit the defender who is 15 yards away from you in the groin, as two of your team mates run into the box unmarked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭rahim


    quad_red wrote: »
    In terms of screaming out loud at the tv, this hits the nail on the head. It's a dead ball, you've all the time in the world. And boom, you hit the defender who is 15 yards away from you in the groin, as two of your team mates run into the box unmarked.

    Maybe that's the idea? Anyone ever see that prison/football movie with Vinnie Jones? The name elludes me right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Charlie


    - The way in which some players treat possession of the ball with contempt. To see some player burst a gut, throw in a great tackle, win the ball, pass it to a team mate, and then have that team mate hoof the ball (thinking he's Beckham) up field, giving the ball away again. Seriously, I don't get this. You're paid ridiculous money, and you can't even play football on the deck!

    - Yellow cards for taking off your jersey when celebrating a goal. Its as if those who run the game want to alienate fans even more by adopting stupid PC rules.

    - Some bint faffing over a free kick for a good3-4 mins, only to blast it straight into the wall.

    - Most things that come out of Blatters gob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Dancor


    rahim wrote: »
    Maybe that's the idea? Anyone ever see that prison/football movie with Vinnie Jones? The name elludes me right now.

    Mean Machine?

    Goal line technology/Hawk eye around the stadium could cut out alot of the problems we have in pro football today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭rahim


    dancor wrote: »
    Mean Machine?

    That's the one.


    On topic: As said before hitting the first man from a corner or taking five minutes over a free kick only to plough it into the wall is so frustrating!

    Also, when referee's know they've made a bad decision and try to "balance" it up by making another bad decision in favour of the other team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Idiot fans and owners expecting. instant. success. .

    A manager should be given AT THE VERY LEAST a season and a half in charge of his team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Charlie


    DesF wrote: »
    Idiot fans and owners expecting. instant. success. .

    A manager should be given AT THE VERY LEAST a season and a half in charge of his team.

    Ahh, this old chestnut.

    Fat Sam was not the right man for Newcastle, he was playing horrendous football, and was found out to be nothing more than a long ball merchant. That's all well an good when you're with a team like Bolton who are going to be by and large a bunch of bruisers, but to try and play that sort of football when you have the likes of Owen, Martins, Viduka, Duff, Milner, Zog, Beye is ridiculous.

    It actually shocks and annoys me that people though Fat Sam got shafted. You do know he got paid off fully?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭pd101


    The rule that you cant punish a player retrospectively if the referee saw it makes no sense to me.

    Other things that annoy me are defenders at corners, goalkeepers being over protected and the fact that a perfectly good shoulder charge is always penalised.

    Oh and the likes of Gray, Rednapp, Shearer and co analysing games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭Idu


    time wasting with the ball in the corner flag. Yes its professional and yes its the smart thing to do. Doesnt mean I have to enjoy watching it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    DesF wrote: »



    Professional players who can't kick with both feet. Who won't even contemplate kicking the ball with their bad foot, who get into good positions to pass, but turn back on themselves, and into trouble because they "have no left foot".

    ****.

    Eamonn.
    Drives me ****ing mental! Arjen Robben would be one. Heard someone say this years ago, can't remember who, but totally agreed that left footers are notoriously bad with their right foot. Whereas you get some players who are right footed who are brilliant with their weaker left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Aside from the obvious foul throws and not beating the first man, United/Liverpool debates are an aspect of the game I could do without.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭Gegerty


    Different rules inside the box than out. With the exception of handball, a foul outside the box gets a free kick, the IDENTICAL foul inside the box gets a blind eye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Eamonn.
    :confused:

    Are you saying that Dunphy is an aspect of football that drives you mad?

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Number one gripe would be : fans booing their own countrymen during/after a game, England fans booing Lampard comes to mind for me, he's one of the best, most hard working players they have, you are lucky to have him!

    The constant coming and going of managers these days (good managers too, I'm looking at you Real Madrid.)

    Pussyfooting and diving acts, what happened where the men were men and you dint go down, or if you did, you got straight back up to show the cúnt you aren't hurt in the slightest. Roy Keane was a prime example of it, a hard man's footballer, still remember him getting the eyebrow stitched up on the sideline and going back onto the pitch, it wasn't even that long ago, but you wouldn't see it these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    weemcd wrote: »
    Roy Keane was a prime example of it, a hard man's footballer, still remember him getting the eyebrow stitched up on the sideline and going back onto the pitch, it wasn't even that long ago, but you wouldn't see it these days.

    Ah here, that's nothing hard at all. Did the exact same thing myself last season and didn't think anything of it. But if you want to stick me in the tough guy category I'll take it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Attackers not getting punished with yellow cards in the same way as defenders.

    A 'cynical' foul can happen at both ends of the pitch.

    Say at one end, Ferdinand is up against Drogba and he gives him a sneaky push - a foul designed to slow down play and take the advantage from Chelsea. Ferdinand gets booked.

    On the other hand if they both go up for a ball and Drogba pushes Ferdinand, it's a sneaky push which, if unseen, will end up in a one-on-one and possibly a goal for Chelsea.

    I just think it's kind of the same offence - making no attempt to play the ball and trying to swing a precious goal advantage.




    Also the fact that Man U win so much - I really hate that.


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