Annual Leave for Shift Worker!! Help!!!

lisil

Hi Folks, My contract states that I am a full time worker. I work 5 nights on 5 nights off. The five nights that I am on I work 40 hours. In my contract it states that I get 10 days holiday per year but I don't think that this is right. The full time staff who work mon-fri get 20 days and I work roughly 70% of the hours that they do. Can anybody help please, been sitting trying to do all the calculations and can't work it out. Every month apart from 1 I work over 117 hours. Any help is much appreciated.

Agent Smith

minimum is 20days annual leave

hunnymonster

my partner is a shift worker and he gets "hours" of annual leave rather than days i.e. 8hoursx20 days =160 hours. He can take these as 24 hour shifts off or 15 hour nights off or any way he likes. Are your shifts twice as long as the day people?

Noelie

but you get more time off that mon-fri workers, you get 5 nights off between working weeks while i presume they only get 2(Sat & Sun). This could be the reason behind only getting 10 days.

you state every month you work over 117 hours. I'm in a Mon-Fri 9-5:30 job and i work at least 150 hours a month, so your working hours are actually less than a day shift, assuming that the day shift don't get 5 day off between weeks.

AARRRGH

Total up how many hours you work per year. Divide the result by 100. That's roughly how many days off you are due.

For example, I work 40 hours per week. I work 52 weeks per year.

40 x 52 = 2080
2080 / 100 = 20.8

So legally I would be due about 20 days per year. I get 25 days.

seamus

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/annual_leave_public_holidays

So using each of the three possible methods:
Yearly: = 117 * 12 = 1404 hours. This is greater than 1365, which means that you're entitled to four weeks' leave. Average working week = 1404 / 52 = 27 hours, therefore 4 weeks' leave = 27 * 4 = 108 hours.

Monthly: Average working week = 1404 / 52 = 27 hours. 1/3 of average working week = 9 hours. 9 * 12 = 108 hours.

Hourly: 8% of all hours worked. = 8% of 1404 = 112.32 hours.

So in theory, 112 hours looks correct. However, the maximum you can claim is four weeks, therefore your maximum entitlement is 108 hours. Although people talk about annual leave "days" the leave entitlement is based on hours worked, not on days. In your case, although you only get 13.5 "days" off, in terms of the amount of time you work, this is fair. Your Mon-Fri colleagues work between 20 and 25 days per month. You do somewhere around 15.

Supercell

There may also be more to it than hours worked, the OP mentions that s/he works 5 on five off..

I work 4 on three off so 4 days hols = 1 week off compared to 5 days off = 1 week off before when I worked Mon - Fri, 9 - 5 so I now have one more week off a year than before despite having the same amount of days available.

I think the OP needs to talk to their Hr dept or their boss for clarification.

lisil

seamus wrote: »

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/annual_leave_public_holidays

So using each of the three possible methods:
Yearly: = 117 * 12 = 1404 hours. This is greater than 1365, which means that you're entitled to four weeks' leave. Average working week = 1404 / 52 = 27 hours, therefore 4 weeks' leave = 27 * 4 = 108 hours.

Monthly: Average working week = 1404 / 52 = 27 hours. 1/3 of average working week = 9 hours. 9 * 12 = 108 hours.

Hourly: 8% of all hours worked. = 8% of 1404 = 112.32 hours.

So in theory, 112 hours looks correct. However, the maximum you can claim is four weeks, therefore your maximum entitlement is 108 hours. Although people talk about annual leave "days" the leave entitlement is based on hours worked, not on days. In your case, although you only get 13.5 "days" off, in terms of the amount of time you work, this is fair. Your Mon-Fri colleagues work between 20 and 25 days per month. You do somewhere around 15.

Hi, Yeah the folk that work Mon-Fri work more hours then me. We were told that we only get 10 days because we only work half the year but in actual fact we work 70% of the hours that the day shift work. I feel that it would be really unfair if we we were entitled to the samea/l as them but looking at the above which is the document I came across that may be the case and at the end of the day the law is the law. Thanks everyone for your help, gonna confirm the info you have gave me with the employment rights mob before I take it to the boss and I'll let you know what happens. Cheers again.

lisil

Noelie wrote: »

but you get more time off that mon-fri workers, you get 5 nights off between working weeks while i presume they only get 2(Sat & Sun). This could be the reason behind only getting 10 days.

you state every month you work over 117 hours. I'm in a Mon-Fri 9-5:30 job and i work at least 150 hours a month, so your working hours are actually less than a day shift, assuming that the day shift don't get 5 day off between weeks.

Hi Noelie, I understand that day shift work more hours, the reason why I mentioned working more than 117 hours as this seems to be one the factors in deciphering annual leave according to some of the docs I found. But it is all rather confusing as there are 3 different ways and they all come out with completely different answers.