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The Loch Ness Monster

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Redpunto


    Grimes wrote: »
    Its always the non believer in the movies who is the first to get eaten. See ya

    TOUCHE SIR, TOUCHE:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,631 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Sabotage wrote: »
    Actually I've considered huantings as possibilities for the likes of Nessie, Bigfoot etc. Certainly there is more of a supernatural element to some cultural stories of the likes of the Wendigo. You do get a lot of people who ask why there are no sightings of dinosaur ghosts .... maybe there are?

    Bigfoots not real but why would Tenacious D lie like that, maybe he just underwent cosmetic surgery and is actually Dave Grohl would explain why he's a great drummer
    Grimes wrote: »
    143d1098020479-wem-gehort-dieses-board-do_not_feed_trolls.jpg

    Wait a minute, THOSE ARE FAKE ARMS!

    Seriously though i made the thread to see everyones response, i'm quite sure that Nessie is long dead and the myth of the Monster of Loch Ness is a fake, i mean after all why would a monster want to live in The Ness when he could easily go to some place sunny like San Francisco, actually funny enough i've heard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    But you see many believe that nessie is a creature that did exist (some type of dinosaur?) whereas the tooth fairy never existed - sorry Grimes.

    I think the key word here is DID exist. About 65 million years ago. Let's face it, Loch Ness isn't that big (or deep for that matter) that a giant mammal could hide from the view of people or from any sort of sonar equipment. To think so is ridiculous, to the extent that the 'Loch Ness Monster' would somehow have to be in on the whole 'conspiracy' so as to remain a mystery. ANY evidence brought forward has been disregarded and proved to be fake. OP, do yourself a favour and don't insult your own intelligence by believing in such tripe. I do realise that some species, that were thought to be extinct, have been found to be alive and well. The Coelocanth being the one that I would be most familiar with. But these were nowhere near the size of the giant mammal that 'nessie' is supposed to be.
    Actually I've considered huantings as possibilities for the likes of Nessie, Bigfoot etc. Certainly there is more of a supernatural element to some cultural stories of the likes of the Wendigo. You do get a lot of people who ask why there are no sightings of dinosaur ghosts .... maybe there are?

    In the words of John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious?". I really hope you're not.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,350 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    In fairness Loch Ness is very big as lakes go and is very deep too. The big problem I would have is the lack of biomass. It's just not enough to sustain a large creature of any kind, never mind a breeding group of them. If this was the ocean I would have more of an open mind, like the coelocanth.

    My father was at sea for a few years in his youth and he saw some mad stuff, including a giant squid on the surface(he reckoned 60ftin length) and what looked like a very large long necked turtle off the south american coast that they observed for a good 15 mins and reckoned at 30ft + in length. The "turtle" was interesting as they had a marine biology type on board and he couldn't identify it. They were also well used to seeing leatherbacks etc and this wasn't one. They estimated the size with the rangefinder binoculars they had on deck.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    ah nessie.

    http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoology/lake-monsters/

    http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoology/loch-ness/

    http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Lake_monster

    first two are from a site 6th gave me, which ive found to be very good

    other one is a nice little site i found. its ok...kinda.
    anyway, i like nessie and all the other water monsters like him/her.
    whether theres one in loch ness, i dunno, but id definetly think out in the ocean yes, theres loads of unknown cryptids.

    cryptozoology sub forum ftw:pac:


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,350 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Nerin wrote: »
    cryptozoology sub forum ftw:pac:
    Hear hear. :) I didn't believe in a lot of that stuff, but over the years I've known people who have seen something out of the ordinary. Even know a guy who saw bigfoot. Up close too, like 20ft away in daylight. This is a guy who you would believe too. Not the hyperbole type. Quite the opposite. Holds two science degrees and among the most level headed people I know. So there may be stuff out there. Even fantastical stuff.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭hiorta


    There is a theory that Loch Ness may be linked to the open sea by natural 'tunnels' under the mountains.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭El_mariachi


    hiorta wrote: »
    There is a theory that Loch Ness may be linked to the open sea by natural 'tunnels' under the mountains.

    But not a scrap of evidence to support it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Predhead


    But not a scrap of evidence to support it.

    Hence, ''theory''.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    In fact it's a hypothesis. A theory is a proven hypothesis. Theories must be supported, gravity is a theory, it's the theory of evolution and both of them are effectivly facts.

    Also the loch is 50 feet above sea level so if there were underwater tunnells big enough for a monster, the lake would drain as it wouldn't get enough water coming in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    I still find it hard to believe that there is any truth in this legend. Looking for a creature this big in a lake the size of loch ness is hardly needle/haystack territory. Creatures such as these would more than likely need to surface every now and then for oxygen and, although people live along the lake, sightings are rare and for the most part proven to be fake.

    The ocean is another story though. It's quite possible that there could be creatures out there that may shock us if discovered. Loch Ness though? Good propaganda for the tourist industry in the way so many hotels struggling to make profits all of a sudden become 'haunted'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Is there connection between the Loch Ness Monster and Jack the Ripper?



  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    At 57 seconds into this video , what kind of team un-earths evidence ??

    Am i hearing it correctly ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭big b


    hiorta wrote: »
    There is a theory that Loch Ness may be linked to the open sea by natural 'tunnels' under the mountains.

    There's also a theory that it's linked to the open sea by the Caledonian Canal.:cool:

    While I think Loch Ness is indeed big, deep & murky enough to hide a large creature that doesn't want to be found, it's much more likely that a variety of sea mammals have found their way into the loch over the years & been spotted in poor weather/at a distance. And the story sure does help the good people of Drumnadrochit eke out a living!

    edit. First post in this forum, hello to all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    Slight problem... There is a feck load of locks (not lochs!) between Ness and the sea. Unless these creatures can now operate machinery...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭big b


    ??? wrote: »
    Slight problem... There is a feck load of locks (not lochs!) between Ness and the sea. Unless these creatures can now operate machinery...

    There's a few alright. Luckily, they have people to open them for them, just like the 30 foot basking shark that I saw trapped in the canal basin at the other end a good few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭hiorta


    The locks at Fort Augustus have been there a very long time, but not forever.
    Loch Ness is below sea level on the Western side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭renmorescout


    big b wrote: »
    There's a few alright. Luckily, they have people to open them for them, just like the 30 foot basking shark that I saw trapped in the canal basin at the other end a good few years ago.

    Sorry for going off topic, but when did a basking shark get trapped in the canal basin? Are we talking about the Claddagh Basin? It would be cool to see that. I never heard about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 408 ✭✭tiny-nioclas


    Did anyone see the programme on tg4 this evening about the eel horse like creature that has been seen in lakes in connamara for centuries??? very interesting, great story even if its just folklore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,631 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Did anyone see the programme on tg4 this evening about the eel horse like creature that has been seen in lakes in connamara for centuries??? very interesting, great story even if its just folklore.

    Didn't see it but i heard about it, i think i might have seen the prgramme before


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  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lots of sightings of these , even body's that have washed ashore. There was one time were 2 lakes flooded to make one big lake. As the flood died down they began seporating again leaving a wet patch in the middle. There was a body of one of these large eel horse's . They didnt know what to do with it so they just buried it.
    There was a bit of a dig a couple of years ago but nothing was found .
    There have also been sightings of this in the Killarney lakes.


    There is also a sea version of it called Caddy. These sightings have been alot more prominant .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th




  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    6th wrote: »



    Also before anybody jumps on this, this is actualy CGI. It was done for one of those dino documentories .

    Looks great though .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Does anyone have any good links with information on these "eel horses" these seem much more interesting than nessie. Especially since they are in Ireland and are of more solid existence


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is actaully a reporter who covers alot about them. He is the person i got most of my info from. I will see if i can get some to send on to you .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Thanks although I found alot about them on this irish animals website (the first hit on google :) )


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