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The Loch Ness Monster

  • 28-04-2008 12:13AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭


    Now don't get me wrong, i just don't know what to believe myself. It's easy to say that it could all be a hoax but this thing has been spotted more then once, actually the first sighting of Nessie was in the 7th Century, then again in the 18th century and then again in 1933, so i don't think it can be a hoax, so what other solutions could there be. A lot of invesigators who have studied the theory either think it is some new spieces or an ordinary animal which has been mistaken, but here are the theories of the type of animal it could be
    (1)A hypothetical long necked Newt
    (2)Some type of Seal or manatee
    (3)An evolved plesiosaur

    There are arguments against the plesiosaur which make sense but when you lok at some photos it dose actually look like one

    So I ask you, what are your thoughts





    loch-ness-monster


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    There is no doubt in my mind it's a hoax. The fact that it has been seen more than once means nothing. If you were going to fake a sighting of a mythical monster, it would add more weight to do so where one has been seen before. Seriously, I'd have more faith in the Tooth Fairy existing, than Nessie.


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There has been more then one sighting in the lake of somthing unidentified. doesnt mean its the same creature. Unfortunately there have not been many more.
    You should look at the Irish lake monsters as there have been more up to date sightings of them, especially around Killarney lakes. The common belief is that they are actually huge Eels .
    Loch Ness isnt producing anything anymore in the way of sightings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Dunno what it is, if anything

    How about an elephant?

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0309_0603009_loch_ness.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    davyjose wrote: »
    Seriously, I'd have more faith in the Tooth Fairy existing, than Nessie.

    But you see many believe that nessie is a creature that did exist (some type of dinosaur?) whereas the tooth fairy never existed - sorry Grimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭holly1


    I would love to think there was something there but with all the high tec equiptment now days I really belive they would have found it by now,if their is something there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/photos/lochness.html

    This, according to Wikipedia is the only photo ever to actually show a neck/head. All others have just been bumps and ripples.
    Since this one appears to be a hoax (photographer admitted it when he was near death)... then that would mean what do you think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Kelly O'Malley


    If there's no Nessie there should be.It's too cute a story to be allowed to die!

    Besides it's a beautiful place that so many people would never have seen if not drawn there by the romance of a monster in the loch...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    A sturgeon making it's way up the river ness into the lake FTW. They run very big, live a long time and look very prehistoric. http://www.fishingmagic.com/news/images/Canada_Record_Sturgeon_lg.jpg

    The big problem for any even vaguely large animal in that lake is the lack of food. I fished it years back. Tiny trout and bugger all of them to boot. Quite an acidic lake so the very bottom of the food chain the invertebrates have a fight in their hands. There is a salmon run but that's very seasonal. A seal on it's own would be anorexic in no time. It just doesn't have the food chain needed to sustain a big animal.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I went to Loch Ness a couple of years ago and spent hours staring at the damn thing in the rain. Didn't see anything. There's a guy (I think he's called Steve) who packed in his job and life several years ago, and now lives in a caravan on the banks of the Loch as a full-time Nessie hunter. He's never seen it either.

    Apparently the water there has a very high silt content (or something), making it fairly impenetrable to light, which is why you can't just sail around and try to spot something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭jpm4


    Years ago I stumbled upon this book in my local library on the subject of Nessie:

    http://www.amazon.com/Loch-Mystery-Solved-Science-Paranormal/dp/0879752912

    It pretty much demolished any believe I had in a monster in the lake. But it's a good read even if you'd rather believe. I've been to Loch Ness and it is a beautiful place and well worth a visit. We went out on a boat across the lake and asked our guide about the monster and if he though it existed. He laughed and said "Not a chance"! And this from a guy who would have something of an interest in keeping the idea of Nessie alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    An interesting explanation I heard is otters. They often swim in a long serpentine line with some surfacing etc. that looks quite Nessie like. Google a video and you'll see what I mean.


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have heard lots of storys . Some of them were saying it was not a lake monster. It actually lives in the highlands. The very first sighting of the monster was actually on land.

    The other Theory is that its not a monster but more of a haunting .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Redpunto


    ohhh sweet jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    I have heard lots of storys . Some of them were saying it was not a lake monster. It actually lives in the highlands. The very first sighting of the monster was actually on land.

    The other Theory is that its not a monster but more of a haunting .



    Yes because a haunting is infinatly more likely! I know why don't we go out with hideously inapropriate equipment and search for anomalies!


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ??? wrote: »
    Yes because a haunting is infinatly more likely! I know why don't we go out with hideously inapropriate equipment and search for anomalies!

    Oh you !! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    ??? wrote: »
    Yes because a haunting is infinatly more likely! I know why don't we go out with hideously inapropriate equipment and search for anomalies!

    Its always the non believer in the movies who is the first to get eaten. See ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Actually I've considered huantings as possibilities for the likes of Nessie, Bigfoot etc. Certainly there is more of a supernatural element to some cultural stories of the likes of the Wendigo. You do get a lot of people who ask why there are no sightings of dinosaur ghosts .... maybe there are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    This all strikes me as moving the goal posts.

    "Bigfoot exists it's a real creature."
    50 years later
    "Maybe bigfoot is a ghost, thats why we haven't found any physical evidence."

    It's just following one bad idea with another!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Who's moving goal posts? I didnt make either of those statements. Also to add 50 years is a long time many things change in that time as people learn or experience more.


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  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ??? wrote: »
    This all strikes me as moving the goal posts.

    "Bigfoot exists it's a real creature."
    50 years later
    "Maybe bigfoot is a ghost, thats why we haven't found any physical evidence."

    It's just following one bad idea with another!


    I know its crazy . Whats your explanation for it all ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    Not an attack on you.

    No in particular the big foot case more and more people are saying 'maybe it's a ghost' after 50 years (the length of time the really big group of thems been running) of no evidence (that a reasonable person would accept). Because if you know Big Foot exists and you can't find evidence for it then it must obviously be something that leaves no evidence, like a ghost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    I know its crazy . Whats your explanation for it all ?

    More than happy to provide one for a specific esample. 'It all' is a little em... broad!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Kelly O'Malley


    Why are you interested in this forum ???
    Just wondering???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭???


    If I can help one person...

    And it's fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Why are you interested in this forum ???
    Just wondering???

    Its not a case of believe everything or get out. I for one welcome questions as long as people are respectful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Grimes wrote: »
    143d1098020479-wem-gehort-dieses-board-do_not_feed_trolls.jpg

    Thats troll cruelty! Get that little critter out. I'm going to start a petition.

    DOWN WITH GRIMES AND HIS ANIMAL CRUELTY WAYS!


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That photo is faked by the way. Definately Photoshop .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I love the bridge in the cage though


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