Metallica may give next album free

GAAman

"Metallica, once strongly opposed to file-sharing, has hinted at going 'free' in the style of NIN and Radiohead. Having heard success stories about releasing music online, Metallica has decided it wants a piece of the action. Radiohead, as a pioneer of online 'pay what you want' music, has shown the world it is possible to profit by releasing music online, but would not post those profits. NIN, on the other hand, has reported at least $1.6 million in revenue. In hindsight, many people remember Metallica as the band that helped shutdown Napster. I purchased the NIN album, after many years of free downloads of the NIN collection, to help support the band. Would you buy a Metallica online album despite their former views?"

Source Slashdot

Anyone else remember the napster days of ulrich rattlin on bout downloading music, wonder what his initial thoughts on this were

Max_Damage

Well, if it's anything like St. Anger, it would want to be free.

Doctor J

In fairness, they owe everyone who bought stanger a refund :pac:

It's not a surprise, really. They've been trying to make amends with the whole livemetallica thing and, fairly predictably, they're looking to appear as if they're in touch with "the fans, man" and try to garner some goodwill on the coat-tails of a couple of bands with unquenchable street cred.

In the absense of any musical direction or inspiration, it might prolong the inevitable for another couple of years.

orestes

Max_Damage wrote: »

Well, if it's anything like St. Anger, it would want to be free.

Weird, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the thread title!

STOP READING MY THOUGHTS!

Malice

If Metallica were to produce another Ride The Lightning then I for one would have no problem paying for it. On the other hand, they should pay me for having to sit through their recent releases!

The thing about the release of Radiohead's In Rainbows album is that the true figures are hard to find. Depending on their agenda, online sources will report that they either lost a load of money or made a load of money.

Suff

I really dont think it's up to the band to decide on the price on their music since they are bound to a contract with the Record/Publishing company...and if the news were to be true then my guess is that the record company had made a full markting study and are sure of a sizable profit...after all its a busniess and not just music!

note: I did like one song on St. Anger - Some Kind Of Monster, haven't listened to the album for over 2 years now. I think the new album is a return to their roots (which every band seems to be doing)..would still buy it

eroo

I liked St.Anger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Metallica would be crap if they just churned out Ride the Lightning esque stuff every album..their music would be boring and sound the same..just look at some of Megadeth's stuff!

It's just like NIN have evolved..[WITH TEETH] and Year Zero were very different to Downward Spiral but I like them equally.If bands brought out the same sounding stuff over and over,we'd get tired of them pretty quickly!

/end rant

I don't really mind what they do,I will be buying the CD regardless..I like the authenticity of a CD..something you don't get from a computer file!

Creamy Goodness

jumping on the bandwagon much.

guess if this goes down, lars won't be able to afford that gold plated shark tank bar at his poolside

vasch_ro

also liked St Anger quite a lot, in fact just listened to it yesterday , in the movie some kind of monster there is a scene where they discuss what bands are now doing when the release new Cd's to get people to buy rather download , like release it wit a free DVD etc
Kill Em All is still my fave though !!

Xavi6

Max_Damage wrote: »

Well, if it's anything like St. Anger, it would want to be free.

orestes wrote: »

Weird, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the thread title!

STOP READING MY THOUGHTS!

:eek: The only reason I clicked into this thread was to post that!

orestes

Xavi6 wrote: »

:eek: The only reason I clicked into this thread was to post that!

You get out of my head aswell! :mad:

*puts on tinfoil hat to stop people reading his thoughts*

Malice

Suff wrote: »

I really dont think it's up to the band to decide on the price on their music since they are bound to a contract with the Record/Publishing company...

The article I read states that it's the album after the next one that could be released for free. Their next album is the last one they are contracted to release through Warner Bros.

eroo wrote:

I don't really mind what they do,I will be buying the CD regardless..I like the authenticity of a CD..something you don't get from a computer file!

All my CDs sit on their cases on a shelf. They get played once when I rip them to MP3 or FLAC and that's generally it. What do you mean by authenticity?

IamMetaldave

Cremo wrote: »

jumping on the bandwagon much.

guess if this goes down, lars won't be able to afford that gold plated shark tank bar at his poolside

How is it jumping on a band wagon? The way bands sell music is changing, soon all bands will doing it like this in some form or other..

Suff

malice_ wrote: »

All my CDs sit on their cases on a shelf. They get played once when I rip them to MP3 or FLAC and that's generally it. What do you mean by authenticity?

I agree with eroo, I well prefer CDs, the disc, booklet and the Artwork ..you get an actual product in your hand and not just a "01010001" file on your PC/Mac. I think one's get abit sentimental with few albums in their collection.

Kold

Still won't be worth it.

Malice

Suff wrote: »

you get an actual product in your hand and not just a "01010001" file on your PC/Mac.

And that is where the whole concept of software/music piracy is lost on many people. Because there's nothing tangible "in your hand" it suddenly becomes acceptable .

I used to prefer CDs, and I still enjoy the anticipation of playing a CD for the first time but in general for ease of use I stick them on the computer/MP3 player as soon as I can.

Mental Mickey

malice_ wrote: »

And that is where the whole concept of software/music piracy is lost on many people. Because there's nothing tangible "in your hand" it suddenly becomes acceptable .

I used to prefer CDs, and I still enjoy the anticipation of playing a CD for the first time but in general for ease of use I stick them on the computer/MP3 player as soon as I can.

Same here. I always buy cd's, then put the tracks I like most onto my MP3 player.

eroo

malice_ wrote: »

All my CDs sit on their cases on a shelf. They get played once when I rip them to MP3 or FLAC and that's generally it. What do you mean by authenticity?

Suff put it better than I could!:)

Suff wrote: »

I agree with eroo, I well prefer CDs, the disc, booklet and the Artwork ..you get an actual product in your hand and not just a "01010001" file on your PC/Mac. I think one's get abit sentimental with few albums in their collection.

GhostInTheRuins

Even if they do give it away for free there's a good chance that they'll still be ripping you off.

Numina

Lets not forget that NIN released a $300 special edition limited to 2500 (One of which I own) which racked Trent in $750,000, so I like to think that his real earnings were 850,000

Malice

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Even if they do give it away for free there's a good chance that they'll still be ripping you off.

Very true. Remember, however long it takes to listen to the album is time you won't get back again .

lord lucan

it's amazing how one soundbyte gets taken and turned into a whole story. that article from slashdot just took a quote from lars in a recent rolling stone interview were he said it was interesting to watch what radiohead/N.I.N are doing and how the record industry and how albums are released are changing. it's now been turned into metallica give away album for free!!!! i can't see metallica ever doing that tbh. the next album is their last with warner so it'll probably get a "traditional" release on cd and downloads through i-tunes. as for their next one,who knows? they have their own "livemetallica" website for gig downloads which i'm sure they could utilise for future releases should they decide not to sign with a label. by the time they do that the whole radiohead expiriment will be old hat and someone will have come with another new innovative way of getting music out.

corcaigh07

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Even if they do give it away for free there's a good chance that they'll still be ripping you off.

how exactly?!!?

Malice

lord lucan wrote: »

it's amazing how one soundbyte gets taken and turned into a whole story.

Well I for one think it's an interesting story given Metallica's history with Napster.

lord lucan wrote:

it's now been turned into metallica give away album for free!!!!

I don't think anyone said anything about giving away an album for free. The threa title is "Metallica may give next album free".

Rockee

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Even if they do give it away for free there's a good chance that they'll still be ripping you off.

True, all their albums are still on sale for the 'bargain' price of 21.99 in most good music shops. :rolleyes:

Malice

Rockee wrote: »

True, all their albums are still on sale for the 'bargain' price of 21.99 in most good music shops. :rolleyes:

Which is why you should do all of your CD purchasing online. CDON and EMP-Online have Metallica's back catalogue available for around €17 each.

GhostInTheRuins

corcaigh07 wrote: »

how exactly?!!?

Click

lord lucan

malice_ wrote: »

Well I for one think it's an interesting story given Metallica's history with Napster.

i think they got and still get unfairly bashed over napster. as i understand it they had a number of other bands/artists who were right behind them but as soon as they went public the rest just legged it and left lars in particular to take all the flack. rightly or wrongly they stuck to their guns and went for it but it's been used for years to bash them and brand them as corporate.

Froot

I think their stance on Napster was correct but the problem I had with the whole thing is Lars just came out of nowhere and came across as a total dickhead.

lord lucan

Froot wrote: »

I think their stance on Napster was correct but the problem I had with the whole thing is Lars just came out of nowhere and came across as a total dickhead.

lars always comes across like that tbh:D

fourmations

they can keep it!

ShawnRaven

Lol First they promote bootlegging of their material to get the word around...
Then they sue their fans for what they once advocated nearly 20 years later...
Now they feel their music is so worthless that they're giving it away?

Maybe dumping Bob Rock was the better move after all!
VR!

nyarlothothep

Damned if they do, damned if they don't, unless their album is really good and kicks ass (its a possibility)

FunkyBarSteward

I think Lars etc.. did a lot of damage in the past and to top it off the last offerings weren't the greatest, so, i think Metallica owes us.

lord lucan

validreasoning! wrote: »

Lol First they promote bootlegging of their material to get the word around...
Then they sue their fans for what they once advocated nearly 20 years later...
Now they feel their music is so worthless that they're giving it away?

Maybe dumping Bob Rock was the better move after all!
VR!

tbh,they only ever encouraged fans to bootleg their live shows,going so far at one stage as to set special bootlegging sections beside the sound desk aside.

grames_bond

lord lucan wrote: »

tbh,they only ever encouraged fans to bootleg their live shows,going so far at one stage as to set special bootlegging sections beside the sound desk aside.

yeah then peoples arms hurt so they introduced livemetallica- so from free to payin a tenner,yup thats fair!! :rolleyes:

Mushy

grames_bond wrote: »

yeah then peoples arms hurt so they introduced livemetallica- so from free to payin a tenner,yup thats fair!! :rolleyes:

Ah, but you can get free stuff on livemetallica...albeit it being much older stuff, its still really good quality. Sure Pearl Jam charged for their bootlegs, the ones on the official site, and ya dont hear them getting lambasted for it! Very easy to have a pop at Metallica, say what ya want bout them, but they still did some great stuff. And could possibly do it again.

lord lucan

grames_bond wrote: »

yeah then peoples arms hurt so they introduced livemetallica- so from free to payin a tenner,yup thats fair!! :rolleyes:

in fairness,there's nothing to stop people still bootlegging shows,i actually prefer the bootlegs sometimes as you get a better vibe with all the crowd noise compared to livemetallica downloads which are taken from the soundboard.

for those interested the pre-album campaign has started with the launch of this site which goes live next monday. it looks like this is being run by warner and not the band but should be interesting.http://www.missionmetallica.com/

grames_bond

lord lucan wrote: »

in fairness,there's nothing to stop people still bootlegging shows,i actually prefer the bootlegs sometimes as you get a better vibe with all the crowd noise compared to livemetallica downloads which are taken from the soundboard.

i totally agree with you there, some guy with a mic in the crowd gets better bootlegs coz you feel more part of it, crowd being louder but some bootlegs donE this way can be MUCK!!

Run_to_da_hills

Max_Damage wrote: »

Well, if it's anything like St. Anger, it would want to be free.

They should pay you to download that stuff. Anything recent from Metallica is of the toilet.

slayerking

lord lucan wrote: »

for those interested the pre-album campaign has started with the launch of this site which goes live next monday. it looks like this is being run by warner and not the band but should be interesting.http://www.missionmetallica.com/

Cheers for the link.
That looks interesting...... Wonder what will happen monday!?!
Could be a hint at the album art style too....

lord lucan

grames_bond wrote: »

i totally agree with you there, some guy with a mic in the crowd gets better bootlegs coz you feel more part of it, crowd being louder but some bootlegs donE this way can be MUCK!!

yep,especially if you get some drunken gob****e standing beside the bootlegger roaring all sorts of random ****e. i've a cassette tape bootleg of G N' R at slane and for a lot of it all you can here is the crowd roaring for water from security/stewards:D

grames_bond

lord lucan wrote: »

yep,especially if you get some drunken gob****e standing beside the bootlegger roaring all sorts of random ****e. i've a cassette tape bootleg of G N' R at slane and for a lot of it all you can here is the crowd roaring for water from security/stewards:D

urgh that horrible, if anyone is lookin for some savage bootlegs go to www.live-recordings.net remember folks bootlegs are not for sale....but you can trade!